So far all I know is one person was injured…. Recall so far as I know is just thread locker and epoxy on the bolts that lock on the barrel. Due to that I suspected the person who was injured had messed with the barrel installation and messed up head space or failed to torque the bolts to spec. Anyone know the details though?
Anyone have the details on the event that triggered the CZ600 recall?
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I do not. I looked around for that info maybe a year ago and found nothing. I think CZ murdered their 600 lineup with poor engineering.
Their prev 527 line were neat little guns. They should’ve either kept the 527 line and/or improved it, or copied Tikka with their one-size fits all receiver.
If they wanted a quick change barrel, something like Terminus or AI would’ve been cool. Maybe there was a patent problem?
Their prev 527 line were neat little guns. They should’ve either kept the 527 line and/or improved it, or copied Tikka with their one-size fits all receiver.
If they wanted a quick change barrel, something like Terminus or AI would’ve been cool. Maybe there was a patent problem?
#1 This isn't the Pit.All I have heard is that replacement triggers will only be full ambi…
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This may or may not be the reason for the recall.
It's the only info I can find at the present time.
It's the only info I can find at the present time.
If that's accurate....... what a stupid recall..... Did I hear him right? Did he suggest Colt was responsible for being retarded here, again!? Except now screwing over CZ and not just themselves *slams head on table*
At least it sounds like I can get parts through a gunsmith possibly...
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Huh. Look at that. I knew there was some sort of QC barrel, but that is pretty slick now that I see it. I thought they used grub screws…wait, I think that’s their rimfire rifles.
Anyway, that’s a legit channel, so there’s a good chance that that info is correct. Too bad that there might have been an over-correction on CZ’s part. Weird.
I guess on an AI or Terminus the whole thing wouldn’t blow apart if the QC screw is loose because you have to first screw the barrel in. A little more safety built into those systems. I’ll bet that’s why the lawyers freaked.
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I duno... looks just like Allen head machine screws to me... Anyway, the design sounds absolutely fine to me. Like he said, you wouldn't blame the manufacture if changed the barrel on your AR15 and didn't put the barrel nut on, fired it and it blew up after a shot or two... this is almost the exact same issue. They didn't secure the barrel in the receiver, so when it inevitably slid forward after a few shots... the bolt couldn't grab the lugs in the barrel to lock the two together. Obviously pulling the trigger in that condition = boom.... you could have literally just pulled the barrel out by the sound of it with the bolt closed. 100,000% the fault of the guy that assembled it. Which I'm guessing, he got complacent / careless due to how good the design is, or maybe he was really tired who knows but not the designs fault.
That's a dumb reason for a recall. I really wanted the Trail model, but every review had horrible accuracy.
Yeah the trail appears to have been, to me, not the model to get… the others seem fine and the Range model I sought out seems like a bargain for an out of the box Long Range rifle.
i do wonder why there’s that meh performance in the tail… I swear in a video I saw of the stock removed the Range had 3 bolts while I think I saw a trail then it off the stock only had 2? May have been an S1 reciever?
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The reason for the recall is that CZ, a once proud, innovative company that made excellent firearms, bought out Colt firearms,a dying American Company run by fucking morons that bankrupted Colt twice.
Then CZ put those same Colt guys in charge of CZUSA in order to run that organization into the ground by producing shitty guns.
Like the C600 and the new P09 Nocturn.
I WAS a CZ fanboy and own an original P09 and P07. Now they are just shit.
Then CZ put those same Colt guys in charge of CZUSA in order to run that organization into the ground by producing shitty guns.
Like the C600 and the new P09 Nocturn.
I WAS a CZ fanboy and own an original P09 and P07. Now they are just shit.
Yeah the trail appears to have been, to me, not the model to get… there others seem fine and the Range model I sought out seems like a bargain fuse an out of the box Long Range rifle.
This literally added nothing useful to the thread.
You ask why the recall, the recall is because the product Is a piece of shit.
The product is a piece of shit because management is shit.
Well I knew of the recall before buying and I bought one because I didn’t think it was a POS.
i bought a trail for thermal night use. I also watched alot of reviews on it and most of the guntubers were using green tip and other shit ammo. A few were using decent ammo but we're shooting from a card table with shit rests. Here's mine, confirming zero at 65yds(gives me a mpbr of 265 yds without being over 2.5" over/under crosshair). These are 50gr vmax handloads that is good load in multiple 223 rifles, not tuned for this rifle. Foil is .75x.75"
CZ announced a new version of CZ600 that supports user barrel/caliber changes. Presently the only caliber supported is in 308 but other calibers will follow
Recall of course... this video is a lie.
The video does not make sense on what happened.
How can the barrel Not move on the first two rounds, but moves forward on the 3 round.
That would not happen, factory rounds fall into chambers... undersized in all respects.
So the cartridge can not all the sudden push the barrel forward unless it's the wrong caliber cartridge for the rifle's chamber.
Unless the barrel extension does not align with bolt all of the sudden, the bolt pushing on the back of the barrel extension therefore the barrel forward ...(not noticing the extra force needed to chamber the round at this time).
The extractor most likely not engaged in the cartridge head, not enough pressure, that gap would be enough for the firing pin not to reach the primer with full force.
And if it did and detonation occurred the cartridge fired and blew off the bolt handle as stated...the bolt to barrel alignment and quality still seem to be a problem.
But there is the old gunsmith PO Ackley experiment of many years ago, if any care to look it up.
He took a 30-30 lever action pulled the locking lug, loaded a factory cartridge in a dry chamber and fired it with no locking bolt... nothing unusual happened.
Ackley states the pressure expands the brass against the chamber walls which holds the cartridge in place.
But this cartridge was not fully chambered, and the operator should have noticed.
Not a fan of this type of barrel attachment for general public use with high pressure center fire cartridges.
Its more of a short range James Bond, European, movie assassin type rifle.
I wouldn't own one....but you can.
Let's try it with some 80,000 psi hybrid cases.
The video does not make sense on what happened.
How can the barrel Not move on the first two rounds, but moves forward on the 3 round.
That would not happen, factory rounds fall into chambers... undersized in all respects.
So the cartridge can not all the sudden push the barrel forward unless it's the wrong caliber cartridge for the rifle's chamber.
Unless the barrel extension does not align with bolt all of the sudden, the bolt pushing on the back of the barrel extension therefore the barrel forward ...(not noticing the extra force needed to chamber the round at this time).
The extractor most likely not engaged in the cartridge head, not enough pressure, that gap would be enough for the firing pin not to reach the primer with full force.
And if it did and detonation occurred the cartridge fired and blew off the bolt handle as stated...the bolt to barrel alignment and quality still seem to be a problem.
But there is the old gunsmith PO Ackley experiment of many years ago, if any care to look it up.
He took a 30-30 lever action pulled the locking lug, loaded a factory cartridge in a dry chamber and fired it with no locking bolt... nothing unusual happened.
Ackley states the pressure expands the brass against the chamber walls which holds the cartridge in place.
But this cartridge was not fully chambered, and the operator should have noticed.
Not a fan of this type of barrel attachment for general public use with high pressure center fire cartridges.
Its more of a short range James Bond, European, movie assassin type rifle.
I wouldn't own one....but you can.
Let's try it with some 80,000 psi hybrid cases.
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