The Elephant in the F*****G Room

the other elephant

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As for the price of eggs, I cause commie dems to shut up and turn away when we are getting eggs at the same time.

I will pipe up and say, "Every single egg here was brought on a truck that uses fuel. Bird flu is one thing but we can fix fuel."

And then, in my mind, I sing.

 
I have an above average number of fingers.
My old friend, Lee, had a below average number of fingers. His right index finger was missing from the second knuckle. When I asked him what happened, he said he was picking a booger and one blew up on him.


Actually what happened is that he had a Tony Iommi accident. He was operating a metal shear press and the index finger and the middle finger got sliced off. So, he went to the hospital and the sewed them back on. The middle was fine but the index finger would not heal, so they had to re-amputate, He took just a local and watched them do it.

But he at least still had the middle finger that is so important for communication, then and now.
 
My old friend, Lee, had a below average number of fingers. His right index finger was missing from the second knuckle. When I asked him what happened, he said he was picking a booger and one blew up on him.


Actually what happened is that he had a Tony Iommi accident. He was operating a metal shear press and the index finger and the middle finger got sliced off. So, he went to the hospital and the sewed them back on. The middle was fine but the index finger would not heal, so they had to re-amputate, He took just a local and watched them do it.

But he at least still had the middle finger that is so important for communication, then and now.
I had to help rescue someone who got “stuck in the machinery” a few months ago at work. He was using a giant lathe to remove flat spots in some train tires and got lazy. He was also wearing leather welding gloves(super ultra mage no-no) to keep from getting his hands cut/burned by the chips. He stopped the machine and reached up to feel the tire but it hadn’t completely stopped. The leather got caught in between the rollers and pulled in. His index finger is what finally stopped the rollers. He went to the hospital and had to have the rest of his index finger removed. It’ll probably be another 6 months before he’s back at work
 
another huge chicken farm found bird flu, so expect eggs to go up rather than down right now.


Let's try to get this thread back on topic, is it or is it not about the price of elephants? I've lost track.

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I had to help rescue someone who got “stuck in the machinery” a few months ago at work. He was using a giant lathe to remove flat spots in some train tires and got lazy. He was also wearing leather welding gloves(super ultra mage no-no) to keep from getting his hands cut/burned by the chips. He stopped the machine and reached up to feel the tire but it hadn’t completely stopped. The leather got caught in between the rollers and pulled in. His index finger is what finally stopped the rollers. He went to the hospital and had to have the rest of his index finger removed. It’ll probably be another 6 months before he’s back at work
Well, on the bright side he probably wont do that again any time soon.
 
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There was an article released during the last administration telling people to eat lentils and not take their animals to the vet so they could save money


It was a Bloomberg opinion piece.
Not only let pets die , but Old people too.
 
It's kind of a simple lesson but evidence suggests there are no natural defense instincts for it.

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Instead of requiring 2 languages in high school which I hear is now the standard at least in some school.

Rural schools should have a class on farm safety / chainsaws etc

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Had to climb somebody’s ass about this. Those little tractors will engage the pto easy also
 
Virulent bird flu sweeping through the US food supply across multiple states?

You don't think those Chineese terrorists Biden allowed to flow over the border created a biolab in CA for the fun of it do you?
If they have , they’ve been doing it for years.


People have no idea the scale or complexity of food production. Nature gives new hurdles every year.
 
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Virulent bird flu sweeping through the US food supply across multiple states?

You don't think those Chineese terrorists Biden allowed to flow over the border created a biolab in CA for the fun of it do you?
I think the US government is working at destroying farming just like they said they would.

I know a person who had to destroy all their layers last year or the year before for possible exposure to bird flu. A worker had entered a HPAI detected area. I.E drove too close to one of thr lakes that were all designated HPAI areas.

I think this is COVID type fuckery going on. This has been going on here since the governor declared bird flu a health emergency and "took control of the reposnse."
 
It begs the question. Do real bird pandemics last years? Real human pandemics dont.....
I have been watching podcasts referencing evidence that the wild bird population has been evidencing increasing resistance to this bird flu. The logical thought is that so is the nations chicken flock. It really begs the question why we are going through such insane measures. The conclusion gets pretty obvious.
 
Gas isn't even expensive. I think it is lower class people still thinking that they're middle. If gas is a lot to you, you sure as fuck aren't middle class.
It’s an accumulation of expenses that is being discussed. All the expenses add up, especially over time. What most here are acknowledging is the erosion of the dollar. Essentially what it boils down to is a devaluation of the monetary value of one’s efforts with their career and life’s work. Being frustrated about that is totally understandable. When the dollar has lost a significant portion of its value so has the value of one’s savings and efforts through no fault of their own.
 
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Gas isn't even expensive. I think it is lower class people still thinking that they're middle. If gas is a lot to you, you sure as fuck aren't middle class.
I,m 70 now and set. I can pretty afford pretty much anything I want without making a dent and then some. That said, started driving when gas was .25 a gallon, and I saved. And I AM middle class. People 40-50 years younger then me don't realize how bad they have it now.
 
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Seeing that gas prices are higher does not make one "low class." That's just a trollish way of saying "go and be poor somewhere else."

Seeing that gas prices are higher than they should be or have been is because of the damned moron we had in the WH for the last 4 years following the plans of his equally moronic former boss.

They make the "middle class" into "lower class."

All products cost more because it costs more in fuel to get the products from point A to point B.
 
Gas is $2.76 for 87 where I am. That’s really not bad and not much more than it was pre Covid. The Covid price collapse was easy to foresee as a short term thing. Anyone who expected that to be the new normal, and planned around those prices, made a poor decision.

The food prices are high. Don’t blame Trump or Biden. Blame the corporations. Greedflation is real and they gang banged the shit out of Americans while letting Trump and Biden take the fall. Except for eggs. There is some real life shit impacting egg prices.
 
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I,m 70 now and set. I can pretty afford pretty much anything I want without making a dent and then some. That said, started driving when gas was .25 a gallon, and I saved. And I AM middle class. People 40-50 years younger then me don't realize how bad they have it now.
Curious, what was your monthly pay when gas was .25 cents pergal?

And how does that compare to the McDonald hamburger index of inflation?

Us average in 1970 was $.36. A big mac was $.65.

Gas today is around $3.00 per gal and a big mac is $6.00.

Any math majors here?
 
Lentils, are you for real? They make me shit!

Honestly, I came back from the doctor today. Turned 70 last summer. My full blood panel came out to - "you're like 56".

My PSA (prostate) was .41. My wife is 63 and she freaked out when she saw my numbers. She said "You Shit! you're going to outlive me" Not that I ever want to, trust me....

what was her PSA at?

Gas is $2.76 for 87 where I am. That’s really not bad and not much more than it was pre Covid. The Covid price collapse was easy to foresee as a short term thing. Anyone who expected that to be the new normal, and planned around those prices, made a poor decision.

The food prices are high. Don’t blame Trump or Biden. Blame the corporations. Greedflation is real and they gang banged the shit out of Americans while letting Trump and Biden take the fall. Except for eggs. There is some real life shit impacting egg prices.

in 1998 gas was at 0.75 a gallon. adjusting for inflation, that is $1.44 today. so its double the price it was 26 years ago.

the two biggest things that moved the needle on gas prices was Katrina hitting in 2005 and then Obama hitting in 2009. we've never really recovered from that. but EPA regs go up, stupid MPG and emissions standards go up.... so yeah, the government and not the free market has screwed up gas prices.


you're going to have to explain greedflation to me. sounds like a commie excuse word for "the government has intervened in so many things we no longer really have a free market to allow the free market to market freely" or "everyone likes to claim they love capitalism until capitalism capitalizes on something they need or want".
 
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what was her PSA at?



in 1998 gas was at 0.75 a gallon. adjusting for inflation, that is $1.44 today. so its double the price it was 26 years ago.

the two biggest things that moved the needle on gas prices was Katrina hitting in 2005 and then Obama hitting in 2009. we've never really recovered from that. but EPA regs go up, stupid MPG and emissions standards go up.... so yeah, the government and not the free market has screwed up gas prices.


you're going to have to explain greedflation to me. sounds like a commie excuse word for "the government has intervened in so many things we no longer really have a free market to allow the free market to market freely" or "everyone likes to claim they love capitalism until capitalism capitalizes on something they need or want".
Income is higher than 26 years ago. There are more regulations and costs to producers than 26 years ago too. The real move to the needle on gas prices occurred during the timeframe immediately leading to the global financial crisis. That one is blamed on speculation.

Greedflation is essentially: “everyone likes to claim they love capitalism until capitalism capitalizes on something they need or want". Companies increasing prices because they can, and then blame inflation. It’s not a commie excuse. Costs and profit far exceeded actual inflation. I’m all for it, because I ❤️capitalism and money. Inflation has been great for me because it had a very positive impact on my assets.

 
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Income is higher than 26 years ago. There are more regulations and costs to producers than 26 years ago too. The real move to the needle on gas prices occurred during the timeframe immediately leading to the global financial crisis. That one is blamed on speculation.

Greedflation is essentially: “everyone likes to claim they love capitalism until capitalism capitalizes on something they need or want". Companies increasing prices because they can, and then blame inflation. It’s not a commie excuse. Costs and profit far exceeded actual inflation. I’m all for it, because I ❤️capitalism and money. Inflation has been great for me because it had a very positive impact on my assets.


i guess my issue with the term is real inflation actually has nothing to do with the "price" of things and everything to do with government printing money and increasing spending to devalue our currency.

as an example, the entire egg industry could band together to price fix and hold prices much higher than the market can bear. that doesnt make our money less valuable than it is, its just that a segment has colluded in contradiction to the free market. ostensibly, the market will handle this in that if the price is TOO high, people will stop eating eggs all together, producers will go out of business, and eventually a new entrant into the market will emerge, likely small local folks with back yard chicken coops.
 
i guess my issue with the term is real inflation actually has nothing to do with the "price" of things and everything to do with government printing money and increasing spending to devalue our currency.

as an example, the entire egg industry could band together to price fix and hold prices much higher than the market can bear. that doesnt make our money less valuable than it is, its just that a segment has colluded in contradiction to the free market. ostensibly, the market will handle this in that if the price is TOO high, people will stop eating eggs all together, producers will go out of business, and eventually a new entrant into the market will emerge, likely small local folks with back yard chicken coops.

Real inflation does impact the base price for things. It sets a new, hard floor. In dreamland, product prices would increase by the amount of inflation and stop there. What we saw the last 4 years was corporate price and profit increases far higher than actual inflation. It could be hidden during Covid supply issues, but it really came to light in 2023-2024.

Companies could price fix, and there is no doubt that they have. DOJ needs to be dusting off the anti-trust playbook.

However, Greedflation doesn’t really require collusion and price fixing, but we all know that companies raise prices in relation to their competitors.

My favorite example is the difference between standing timber and the cost of lumber products.

There were many articles over the last year of companies having to lower prices because they finally found what the market will accept. McDonald’s and Kroger were very high profile ones.

Companies gang banged American consumers and blamed Trump and Biden.
 
There are two main parents of inflation: money supply increase and demand/supply changes. They are different, and both can be in play at the same time. Corporations increasing prices moves along the supply/demand curve - higher prices, fewer buyers; lower prices, more buyers, all things else remaining equal. Incidentally, this is why we are also seeing a change in what people are spending their money on; they have moved to alternative goods and stores (Wal-Mart is seeing increased numbers of higher income customers as they forego other more expensive stores), deciding to pay down debt and not buying cars at inflated prices.

Those who want macroeconomic disinflation or deflation - understand what comes with that: disinflation occurs in a recession, deflation occurs in depressions. Welcome to the fiat currency system.
 
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Income is higher than 26 years ago. There are more regulations and costs to producers than 26 years ago too. The real move to the needle on gas prices occurred during the timeframe immediately leading to the global financial crisis. That one is blamed on speculation.

Greedflation is essentially: “everyone likes to claim they love capitalism until capitalism capitalizes on something they need or want". Companies increasing prices because they can, and then blame inflation. It’s not a commie excuse. Costs and profit far exceeded actual inflation. I’m all for it, because I ❤️capitalism and money. Inflation has been great for me because it had a very positive impact on my assets.

There’s very little capitalism in the US economy today. As the great Gene Epstein likes to call this mix of cronyism and capitalism, it’s crapitalism.
 
There’s very little capitalism in the US economy today. As the great Gene Epstein likes to call this mix of cronyism and capitalism, it’s crapitalism.
One of the single most effective ways to get back closer to capitalism is to get rid of lobbyists altogether. Otherwise all we really have is corporatism, which over time and through acquisitions turns into corporate governed socialism. Much like what Ukraine is about to enter into via Blackrock and others. We are on the path, but it seems they will just get there faster.
 
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One of the single most effective ways to get back closer to capitalism is to get rid of lobbyists altogether. Otherwise all we really have is corporatism, which over time and through acquisitions turns into corporate governed socialism. Much like what Ukraine is about to enter into via Blackrock and others. We are on the path, but it seems they will just get there faster.
Lobbyists are small peanuts. End the fed
 
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THIS is the elephant in the room. The more debt it takes to create a dollar of growth the worse off a country is.