Wet Mounting Scope Mounts - Where It All Started

DeathBeforeDismount said:

Yea @Rob01 you big fucking meanie. What the hell do you know?

We would have won the Vietnam war if the damn snipers knew to lube their mounts/rings. The only reason they didn't know their rifles were off by 9 mils is they still used moa and everyone knows Marines can only count as high as their fingers allow.


It's ALMOST like the manufactures of these mounts do not understand how to properly spec the torque values and do not take into account a wet vs dry fastners, nor do they properly engineer the size fastners to be able to use the required torque to seat properly. Or there is tolerance stacking .....or 50 other things that could cause an issue that wetting (over torquing) only covers up the symptoms instead of addressing the ACTUAL issue be it design, material, manufacturing,ect.

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matt2143 said:

Wow, this strayed wildly off course. Needless to say we don’t need to over think the fastener state/ type, etc. as we know the mount shifts left to right and greasing the mating surfaces fixes the issue. If you don’t believe it happens, spend $5 in ammo and test it yourself, anyone can do it in five minutes on the range.

Rob01, since you didn’t test it and you come into the thread making fun of it, I think you should rethink your behavior here. It just makes you appear more irrelevant with each post.

I have nothing to sell. Just sharing information that has been validated by dozens of engineers across pretty much all the main line optics/mount manufacturers. Choose to believe it or not, make fun of it if you choose, I could care less. I’m about shooting and teaching. I do both every week, I don’t really ever post anything on the hide but just recently this topic surfaced again and since I started the discussion I figured I would jump in here.

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wpeach1912 said:

Is this still available?

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Spuhr is over rated. Prove me wrong

Price Cracked mounting plates Causes some scopes to lock up the magnification ring. Rare reports of cracked ring top halves. Buy a set of NightForce. More durable and almost as many Mount options for rails red dots etc. and cheaper.

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Budrichard said:

Steel Bolts stretch under an applied stress. Steel will elongate and return to the original dimension when the street is relieved as long as you don't exceed the yield stress i.e the reason for torque values.
The rings, pic rail and mount itself does not stretch as the force applied is compression!
Applying thread locker compound to the mount any any other surfaces does nothing.
Bolts are known to stretch i.e creep under sustained load (torque) and or loosen under vibration.
The thread locking compound helps to prevent or minimize this creep or loosening from vibration.
BTW one of us is an Engineer and Metallurgist.
-Richard

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RTH1800 said:

In WW1 the snipers would piss on the mount screws and put them back it to speed up the rusting process.
Early advocates of the wet mount I suppose.

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