Confirmed that you don't know dick about shooting a pistol
You must be one of those shitty appleseed pistol instructors. Or a massive fudd.
Here's some fundamentals of marksmanship for you
Ruger RXM - Magpul & Ruger make a Glock 19 clone
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You must be one of those shitty appleseed pistol instructors. Or a massive fudd.
Here's some fundamentals of marksmanship for you
Or..... perhaps..... I'm just somebody who wants the thing to fit instead constantly working around it. Weird how there's all these clones out there that don't use the same angle. Almost as though biomechanics exist.
There is a point to that grip angle….
It isnt to appease people who are too lazy to put in the work and learn to shoot a pistol because “it isnt easy” the first time.
Channeling my inner 308Pirate
How did I do?
I should probably swear more and call you dumb to get full points.
Now me being me.
The Glock grip is the way it is for a reason.
Not all like it, or work to overcome the slightly odd initial feel.
Now I shoot and carry a g19 and it is second nature.
Welp... you guys nailed that right on the head lol
Those clones exist to appease limp wristed faggots who do not understand how to use their wrists and forearms to manage recoil. You sound just like one of them.
I'm still waiting to see you shoot.
This is a PSA for all interested parties.....
The concept of NPA, as it is understood in rifle marksmanship, is completely NOT APPLICABLE to practical pistol shooting.
The concept of INDEX is sometimes confused for NPA by those who do not really understand index. Index does not rely on relaxation or closing and reopening your eyes or stance or anything else that we do to check NPA behind a rifle.
The concept of NPA, as it is understood in rifle marksmanship, is completely NOT APPLICABLE to practical pistol shooting.
The concept of INDEX is sometimes confused for NPA by those who do not really understand index. Index does not rely on relaxation or closing and reopening your eyes or stance or anything else that we do to check NPA behind a rifle.
Then forgive my ignorance, but why would you want an index point other than where it ends up with the proper grip and a straight wrist?
Lots of bad guys have been dirt-napped with a Glock. Hell, didn’t the Navy Seals trade out their Sig 226s for Glock 19s?
And, all the cool guys in USPSA Open division are running some sort of 2011. I don’t think there are many stock Glocks in that rarified air.
It’s almost like grip angle, bore axis, reset, and pretty much all of the other “pistol stuff” that gets argued about on line is just noise that clouds the task of shooting.
Give a Seal a 2011 and he’s probably going to beat the brakes off of many in a shooting competition.
Give a USPSA Open division GM a stock Glock and he’s probably going to beat the brakes off of most in a shooting competition.
And, all the cool guys in USPSA Open division are running some sort of 2011. I don’t think there are many stock Glocks in that rarified air.
It’s almost like grip angle, bore axis, reset, and pretty much all of the other “pistol stuff” that gets argued about on line is just noise that clouds the task of shooting.
Give a Seal a 2011 and he’s probably going to beat the brakes off of many in a shooting competition.
Give a USPSA Open division GM a stock Glock and he’s probably going to beat the brakes off of most in a shooting competition.
Sure. I'm horrible at explaining it but we're talking about the same thing at least. Why would you want the grip angle more aggressive so it pushes your support hand closer to that limit of travel?
There's a USPSA carry optics GM who goes by Brantley Merriam who ditched a Shadow 2 for a Glock 17 and is doing better than ever. Believe he took 4th at 2024 CO nationals.
The only mod in his Glock is the trigger.
Good work can be done with almost any pistol. Glock’s grip design makes it just that much easier to lock the wrist to improve recoil management.
If Glock made a steel frame 17 or 47 I'd snag one up immediately for competition.
Looking for real world experience from someone who owns both.
Do you honestly this RXM is as good as your Glock 19?
Do you honestly this RXM is as good as your Glock 19?
The top end is completely gen 3 compatible and the optics mounting solution is better than what's been available (COA is going to be the be the end all mounting system but that's here nor there) so if there is an issue with the top end it doesn't matter. Easily fixable.
The bottom end/fire control unit supposedly has some parts commonality with Glock. I haven't seen any good conclusive write up on it yet but I'm sure someone will go full austismo and figure out what fits and what doesn't.
Way I see it, would I buy it over a Glock 19? Yes. Would I buy it over a Glock 19 COA? Depends on if the COA optic ends up being stellar or not because I've heard some concerning things about the Aimpoint ACRO and it appears to be ACRO based.
My plan is to throw a 507Comp on it and go to town.
For the money, it is fantastic. Full 3rd gen glock top end with a better mounting system than the MOS. I REALLY like the modularity concept. If, and only if, Magpul really does release all of the things they say they are going to, such as the full sized frames. To get someone started with shooting that can't afford a Glock, get this. If you can afford the Glock get a G19. At least the RXM uses the glock mags so if/when someone upgrades in the future their mags will still work.
I told a buddy of mine who is just dipping their toes into a pistol mounted RDS, to look at the RXM because it's just easy. I really dislike the plate system that the MOS uses. I had a 43x direct milled and it just works better than the plates. This system gives you the flexibility of the plates with the option to use a few different optics, but the better profile of direct milling.
I'm hoping that the COA system is taken up by other manufactures at some point but who knows. I personally love the ACRO and have it on 2 different pistols, so I'm cautiously optimistic that the COA will be a winner.
ETA pic of my RXM with the RMR and a modlite.
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Im a gunsmith at a fairly large indoor range here in FL, our guns have hundreds of thousands of rounds on them. The day the RXM was released we put one on the rental side and I put instructions for nobody to clean it so I can do a simulated "torture test." Seeing that it goes out at least once a day for a minimum of 50 rounds and it was released 11 Dec 24 that puts it at roughly 68 days of use times 50 rounds=3400 rounds so far minimum without being cleaned and lubed with no reported failures. The only thing I do not like about it is the sloppy mag fitment with the Magpul mag. Would I buy one? yes to have as a truck gun or to stay in a dedicated room at my house but Im not giving it up to my G5 19 if this helps.
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COA will become the new standard. It's on a year restriction according to Glock but after that anyone will be able to use it. They wanted to give Aimpoint a year of exclusivity.
I wouldn't be surprised if Holosun is already looking at it so they have something ready to drop as soon as they can.
That has not been my experience. While they do train with pistols, it is more training to the point of competence. They are not flat range competition shooters. If I had to guess, the average SEAL would be high B or low a at qualifiers (and yes that is a generalization and there may be exceptions). My experience with them is that they spend most of their time practicing with rifles, specifically SBRs and they are extremely good at that given the parameters of their weapon system.
I have seen Brantley shoot and he is fantastic.
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