Are there any advantage to having a 1-16 twist over 1-13 or vice-versa?
That is still being discussed but I have a 1:11 Krieger and at 50 yards you could not tell the difference from any of my 1:16 twist barrels but move out to 200 yards and the fast twist shoots smaller by a decent margin.
1 in 16" twist:
That's cool. I checked the website when I wrote my reply and did not see anything longer than 22" or 1/2-28 threads under the custom build options for the Bartlein 1.20". Good info that they can accommodate those wants.
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Brand of barrel, who chambered it, With or without tuner are the next questions , no tuner 13 twist MullerWorks hands down. It is said that they are more picky but when you find the magic lot a 13 Muller chambered by DI is as accurate as a repeater that can be built, and that statement is backed up by testing in both the test tunnels and in real life matches. The same words are said by some of the best shooters in the sport. This thread has a few samples of what 13s are capable of.
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What is the backstory behind Vudoo not offering action only on the 360's anymore? Seems they made a decision last year on going with DI Precision exclusively, now have walked that back and offering to MPA as a custom option along with offering barreled actions direct and distribution . Be nice to purchase the action only and have my smith spin up a barrel.
Seems like they are much more focused on building pistols than rifles lately! I called over there to order a custom barreled action and they actually told me to call DI Precision if I wanted anything non-standard.......to me that said it all.
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Hey Dave, what is your lead time on a barreled action?Brand of barrel, who chambered it, With or without tuner are the next questions , no tuner 13 twist MullerWorks hands down. It is said that they are more picky but when you find the magic lot a 13 Muller chambered by DI is as accurate as a repeater that can be built, and that statement is backed up by testing in both the test tunnels and in real life matches. The same words are said by some of the best shooters in the sport. This thread has a few samples of what 13s are capable of.
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I wanted to take a minute to explain what we are about and what our focus and goals are. I am not a gunsmith or a machinist. I AM a shooter(former hot rodder) and everything I do and think is always from behind the rifle. When I started shooting PRS rimfire in 2017 I had no idea what I was doing...
Are you saying the lot variance doesn’t matter with your rifle with SK match or in general?
I’m telling you that out of 2o or so boxes of SK rifle match I have never even looked at the lot and it consistently shoots straight. Very few fliers, but I’m pretty sure the shot I dropped at the BR match was slightly underpowered, because it was low.
Rob pretty much explained it however the MPA deal was done before the ownership change. The offer to DI was after the change.
8 to 12 weeks rights now, hoping to shorten that up as I get caught up from the backlog. We are grateful for the orders but so many came in so fast in such a short period of time that we are running behind schedule but making headway to get back to our normal 4 weeks.
Anyone care to spill some tea (er gossip) as to what killed the next-gen Vudoo mags? Listening to this ~2 year old conversation sounds like it came from another decade or another planet? And this more recent updat thread less than 12 months later... ended with L3i basically saying "its dead, we'll take care of it" (paraphrasing for anyone who doesn't want to read it)...?
Let’s see a test with some 30rd groups…. Only takes a brick of ammo to test a couple revs on the tuner……
Send it to MCR and you will not have to wait on a FIX. I 100% stand behind that. I talk to Johnathan every week.
sure and for no extra cost get bolt lug wear FREE
I've been in several deep $$$ rabbit holes. The FIX I was referring to was regarding Rays post on the new bolt bodies, no big deal as I'm waiting on a blank and a vanquish anyway.
The great part about tuner testing is taking the time to learn trigger and rifle control, which in itself is the better outcome as far as results on paper are concerned. Testing with a bipod and rear bag is worthless to see a real change, become a .22 bullet whisperer and you will see things you never thought possible
If that’s true why do you promote tuners to many of your customers who inevitably can’t shoot the difference? I’m just poking because there hasn’t been a test with decent sample sizes proving they work….. if they do work it should be relatively easy to prove that at an indoor range with an f class rest.The great part about tuner testing is taking the time to learn trigger and rifle control, which in itself is the better outcome as far as results on paper are concerned. Testing with a bipod and rear bag is worthless to see a real change, become a .22 bullet whisperer and you will see things you never thought possible
I promote precision and accuracy, I can do my part but the shooter has to do his or her part. We are now getting rifles consistently in the mid .2s (with the RIGHT ammo) that a tuner is not needed for NRL/PRS purposes but confidence is still a major factor, IF you know your rifle is capable of zeros then that adds confidence,
Correct they can show results but consistent control of the trigger and rifle is key.
I recently did my own tuner test. I think it was a total of 78 five shot groups. Average 5rd group size was .31. I don’t remember what the average 30rd group size was. With a random lot of center x. I was happy with that. As for the test, I picked the best and worst settings and re-shot them. They flipped…. Also ran a p test on the data and no difference was found.
