Is there a # of rounds needed for a new 22 to possibily tighten up?

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    I have a new ruger precision 22... I know some shoot and some are so so... but Ive got around 100-150 on it now, cleaned it when I got it and once more after 100...

    It will shoot cci sv in a very small hole at 50 yards, and then it wont... and then it will, then itll be so so.. then bad, then good... So it can shoot, but not consistently. I even tried the foil tape bedding crap, didnt really help anything.

    Should I be looking at a new barrel to gain the consistency? Or should I run a few hundred down it first?
     
    Those aren’t known to be top level of precision. But neither is CCI SV. It does tend to shoot well for what it is though. My B14R and T1X shoot it surprisingly well but the consistency isn’t like SK match or SK LR which I typically run through the Bergara

    If your chasing accuracy try some better ammo. Otherwise if you have some free time watch some of Josh’s Pursuit of Accuracy videos on YouTube. Great source of info on .22’s. He had some recent videos where he ran budget and high end ammo through 4 rifles. From a RPR/B14R/CZ457 and I think a Rim X

    .22 can be picky when switching ammo or cleaning. They need some shots through the barrel to season them. Especially if you’re testing different brands with different lube. CCI I’m not sure has much lube but some others are pretty greased up. When I clean I don’t touch the bore. I clean my suppressor and mop the carbon ring with some boretech carbon remover. I leave the bore alone

    What’s your desired level of accuracy?
     
    Barrel wear is my current topic of interest.
    I've read all the articles and discussions I can find on line,
    and am documenting wear patterns occurring in a purchased new
    factory CZ 455 heavy barrel. Both Calfee and Litz observed
    that it can take over 4000 shots through the barrel
    before all the burrs and rough areas are worn down.
    It takes that many shots for the silica grit in the primer residue
    to polish away the imperfections left by the manufacturing process.

    My first question is: Are you sure it's not mechanical issues
    that's causing strays with the new rifle?
    Loose fit between stock/receiver/barrel would be something to check.

    Second question: Could it be the support system causing issues?
    Wobbly bench, bipod, body mechanics?
     
    CCISV will throw 2-3/10 shots out if the group, usually high or low. The more you spend on ammo, the fewer, usually high/low flyers you will see. They will still happen. Welcome to Rimfire. Also, 5 shot groups are not representative. Shoot at least 10.
    Note: you will hear lots of claims that say “their rifle” is way better. Ask for 3 ten shot groups at 100 on the same paper shot together.
     
    i tried SK match and SK long range. both were worse than cci sv
    My tikka and Bergara both shoot very well with SK. The Bergara tend to be chambered and shoot Lapua/SK ammo type better. Where CZ seem to like eley from my recollections. Although I haven’t shot a CZ that’s just what I read so take that for the nothingness it’s worth haha

    I put a RPR in the same category as the savage. I personally wouldn’t even consider one for precision .22. Cheapest I’d start with would be a Tikka T1X. Which tends to shoot well

    I shot cci sv through these rifles at 50 yards and 100 as well. At 50 I had same results as you. 5 shots in a tight cluster but then it throw a shot or two off 3/4”. Wasn’t what I’d considered super consistent. At 100 it wasn’t even close to the SK. Think it was about 2-3” groups for 10 shots just from memory

    Although for match guns they recommend a decent amount of rounds. I think Lapua test center wants a few hundred rounds down the barrel before you even send them the rifle to test.

    Here’s a 100 yard group with my B14R/SK LR ammo. The SK match shot almost the same but with a bit more vertical. Like 1.25-1.5” for 10 shots compared to this 10 shot SK LR group below

    This is about 100 rounds down the barrel from new. Couple 50 yard 5 shot groups from that day as well
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    Thanks for the info guys. I had a t1x a while back and it shot scary good but kept having ejecting issues and sold it.

    Ill probably just keep this as is and let my son wear it out and get on the look for something better for myself.
    I set an RPR up for a relative. It shot very well with CCISV, but it felt pretty clunky. The adjustment in the stock is good when both kids and adults are using the same rifle.
     
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    My take on how many rounds down range before getting "serious" about groups is 500 with factory barrels. Then do a total clean and start again. I don't expect really good groups until about 1,000, which is the number recommended by the test centers before sending.

    My RPR didn't start shooting until after the first 500 were fired. When I bought my first B14R, 18" steel, I put 500 through it before any serious groups, cleaned and then continued shooting. My second B14R SS HB came last week. Same formula, 500 rounds, total clean, then some more. This barrel started to group very well at about 600 rounds. Put a total of 800 rounds through that day and total clean again at home.

    All the above mentioned rifles have shot .166" 5 shot groups (or better) at 50 yards with the same ammo. RPR was sold to a buddy for his kids to start shooting. My original B14R has done much better at times, it has over 15,000 through it now. My new B14R 20" SS HB only has just over 1,100 down the barrel, but has already shown it will be at least as good as the first. Shooting inexpensive TAC 22 consistently around .250" at 50 yds, and has already produced .163" when the flags were consistent. 100 yds groups already under 3/4" under decent conditions. Can hardly wait for some better conditions to really wring it out with quality ammo. Initial shooting done under switchy right/left winds at 36-50*F, both days.

    Bore in the B14R 20" was bore scoped before shooting. It showed typical small striations in the groves and on the lands as well as reamer marks on the leade from rifling and chambering. Again scoped after the first 800 rounds and cleaning and most all the groove and land striations were now polished down or out, and the leade tooling marks reduced to faint remnants.

    Now if the barrel is a high quality custom, most will shoot very well from the get go after seasoning with a few rounds, especially if hand lapped after rifling. Still, the test centers recommend 1,000 through for best results before testing.

    This is my procedure, with my results, your results may vary. I have suggested this to a few friends that have noticed very similar results following the procedure I use. All showed noticeable improvement in smaller group sizes after a minimum of 500 rounds.