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Considering a 13.9” upper to go with my 18” 6.5 Grendel.. thoughts?

thedude824

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I recently built an 18” 6.5 Grendel with a NightForce NX8 2.5-20x
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I went with the superlative arms piston system, but the BCG is tight in the upper so I may swap it over to DI with a superlative arms adjustable gas black and JP FMOS.
After researching the round more it really seems to be great at everything. So I’m thinking it may be cool to build a 13.9” SBR upper to have superior capabilities compared to my 300blk out and 14.5” AR and far less blast and recoil than my 13” SCAR 17. If I do that it makes total sense to swap the superlative piston to the SBR and I would use a VLTOR MUR upper since the BCG fits perfectly in that upper (my 14.5” AR setup). What I’m really wanting input on is… optic arrangement. While I’d have the 18” upper for long range, the 13.9” should be very capable out to distance. So I was thinking of trying the Steiner T6XI 2.5-15x with an RMR mounted on top. I’ve never used a top mounted or offset RMR, but I’m sure I can train to become accustomed to it. I thought this set up would make more sense than another LPVO. I’ve got a Trijicon Credo 1-6x on my 14.5” AR and a Trijicon Credo HX 1-8x on my SBR SCAR 17. Thoughts?
Use would be run and gun and up to whatever distance the rifle is capable. I’m thinking of trying the Lehigh 110 grain copper solids and the 110 grain controlled chaos.
 
Sounds like a lot of overlap with the 18". Like, so much overlap that it'll do 95% of the same thing and you'll end up just shooting one of them.
I thought that might be the case. I guess that’s the risk when using a do it all cartridge. Reading last night I think I saw mention of roughly 20 fps per inch? Is that right? Makes the added length of the 18” kind of pointless I guess.
 
I don't have my data in front of me, and most of it is for 5.56, but 20-30fps per inch is a close enough average for barrels between 14" and 24" if memory serves. There are exceptions to every rule of course, and things get a bit more dramatic once you get really short.
 
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I’m going to shoot this set up a little more Tuesday hopefully. If the BCG is totally smooth afterward I’ll just wait on the Craddock 13.9” Pangris to come back in stock and pick up a CMT UHPR 12.5” rail.
If there’s still binding I’ll pick up a Vltor MUR to mount the 13.9” barrel and CMT UHPR rail. I’ll swap the superlative arms system to this upper since I know the BCG functions as intended in the MUR upper.
I’ll use a superlative arms adjustable gas block and a new bolt carrier with the Rexus bolt with the 18” upper. I was originally set on the JP FMOS, but might consider the chrome microbest. I guess we will see. It’s unfortunate I didn’t see how effective the 6.5 Grendel could be from shorter barrels. Oh well
Any thoughts or suggestions?
I was also thinking of keeping the NX8 2.5-20x on the 13.9” upper and perhaps an offset RMR? The scope knobs and objective lense are too tall for an RMR mounted on the top of the scope ring mount.
 
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Sounds like a lot of overlap with the 18". Like, so much overlap that it'll do 95% of the same thing and you'll end up just shooting one of them.
But a lot of us do it anyway. 16” 556 & 223 wylde, 16 & 18” 6.5 Grendel, & 16” 308’s seem to keep filling up my safes. I have a lot of others but for some reason those keep piling up.
 
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But a lot of us do it anyway. 16” 556 & 223 wylde, 16 & 18” 6.5 Grendel, & 16” 308’s seem to keep filling up my safes. I have a lot of others but for some reason those keep piling up.
For sure, I've done it too many times. Enough that I have great difficulty coming up with a reason to assemble another rifle these days. When I do think I need to clone something I already have, I make sure they have way different optics so I can at least pretend that the intended use case makes it different from the last rifle.
 
I thought that might be the case. I guess that’s the risk when using a do it all cartridge. Reading last night I think I saw mention of roughly 20 fps per inch? Is that right? Makes the added length of the 18” kind of pointless I guess.
20-25 fps per inch with the 6.5 Grendel has been my experience when going from a 22” to an 18” and then to a 12”…. And, my 12” gets pretty much all of the shooting time, even though the 22” is objectively more precise. The 12” is “good enough” with a lot more up side…

But, the 22” almost shoots itself. It’s a shame how much it sits in the safe.
 
20-25 fps per inch with the 6.5 Grendel has been my experience when going from a 22” to an 18” and then to a 12”…. And, my 12” gets pretty much all of the shooting time, even though the 22” is objectively more precise. The 12” is “good enough” with a lot more up side…

But, the 22” almost shoots itself. It’s a shame how much it sits in the safe.
Once you realize what you can “get away with” length wise, and still make hits at extended range, it’s hard to put the cat back in the bag. Regardless of what caliber.
 
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