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we will be staying in eugene OR for a few days then driving up the coast and staying in portland for 2 days. one of those days we will be going to mt st helens.

we have a list of hotels and i would like to know where to avoid.

if anyone has any points of interest, that would be appreciated as well.

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the hotels look to be near the intl airport, a few hotels are across the river in WA.

thank you.
 
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Umm… Fellas, Portland is in O-re-gun, not Warshington. Same, but different. But same.

My general rule is to stay one hour outside any major metro area, and to never ever stay inside a beltway. The Dalles east of Portland is decent, but allow time if you have a night/early morning drive because the fog can be real bad off the Columbia River.

But Oregon can be fun in some ways, drink a bunch of beer and save up the empties until about 4am and watch for the homeless crowd to come dumpster diving. Then throw them down into the parking lot and enjoy the bum fights over them.
 
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Generally - PDX is a pretty safe area. Hotels around the airport are like hotels around an airport in many big metro areas - close to 'the track' and loaded with prosties and other assorted nefariousness, all based on room rate. I would not stay near the airport nor would I stay across the river.....the 'Couve can be just as sketch as PDX. If you want to stay East Side - I'd pick a better quality hotelier and wander down 205 to at least Clackamas / Sunnyside (better - West Linn). Stay off of 82nd / Sandy Blvd / most parts of Burnside at night / downtown - after the bars close can be a shit show, midnight - you should be fine. (Better and best quality boutique hotels are downtown). No one is gonna fuck w/ you during the day time unless you're in some really shitty neighborhoods nearest Lombard and I-5. The unhoused and addicted are generally harmless, it's bangers of all stripes. You'll know em when you see them, and generally they are not fuckin with people for sport.

ETA - if you have a block of time to kill - go to OMSI.
ETA - DO NOT ride the Max (light rail / bus system)
 
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I just used this to search my area. I call BS. Says Violent crime is super high here in my zip. That's impossible unless this has happened in the last year. Not one murder, no rapes report, no assaults, nothing. Now, property crime is up since we have the gov subsidies living quarters for folks (and it says that hasn't gone up).
 
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Places to avoid in portland?

"Portland"

Stay on the coast and just drive through. You ain't missin shit.
Mt. St. Helens is awesome.
Coast is Awesome
Portland is ASS (former Portland metro resident and its gone to hell). Burbs are ok (Go west up over the mountain towards forest grove, but its been 20 years)

Been a long time but if you can find a Mcmillan Bros Bar/Restaurant its good family eats and beer.
 
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Places to avoid in portland?

"Portland"

Stay on the coast and just drive through. You ain't missin shit.
Mt. St. Helens is awesome.
Coast is Awesome
Portland is ASS (former Portland metro resident and its gone to hell). Burbs are ok (Go west up over the mountain towards forest grove, but its been 20 years)

Been a long time but if you can find a Mcmillan Bros Bar/Restaurant its good family eats and beer.
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St. Helens is OK. Hood, Adams, and especially Rainier are all MUCH better.
 
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ARPC gun show is this weekend at the Linn county expo. Pretty decent, about an hour north of Eugene. (ARPC is a a very nice club, in case you all are checking out U of O for a kiddo. Great hours & open every day).

The Rose test garden up in Portland is a nice take May thru October or the Japanese Garden when Roses aren't in bloom.

Multnomah Falls. Everybody goes (busy)

Silver Falls State park 10 falls loop trail. (Lesser known jewel of a park). Between Eugene & Portland. Sorta.

Go to the coast as a day trip is a possible, if you have a want. Edited, sorry i missed you all were heading up the coast allready!

Never leave anything in your vehicle you expect to be there when you get back to it...
 
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Dude the first place to take out of town guests, Always gotta hit the Acropolis and over to Union Jacks for the T&A and brews . Plenty of places to get good food and micro brews all over the place. I dont run anywhere unless I carrying.
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You sir have unlocked some core memories. Man, I haven't thought of the Acropolis in years.

OP. Sounds like a vacation trip and not business since you are doing EUG, up the coast, and to PDX and St. Helens. Heading up the river thru the Gorge east of Portland is a hell of a nice drive. Weather might suck this time of year. March is always dicey. Mulanomah falls is always a great stop. Hike to the top of the falls. Then Scamania Lodge across the bridge of the Gods on the WA side is a great place to stay for a night, especially if you are travelling with your significant other. Its an easy day trip, drive east of Portland and gets you out of the shittier areas. I can concur with others advice that staying the hell off of 82nd is a good plan unless you like seeing the 2 legged wildlife doing dumb shit.
 
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Just go to or stay in the Gorge. One of the prettiest places in the US. Unless you're looking for specific food, Portland should be a skip (there are, however, good places to eat but you didn't mention anything about that). Portland, when compared to all other major metros, is relatively harmless. It gets a bad rep but there are still places to check out (OMSI, the Zoo, Forest Park, some breweries, etc).

My suggestion:
Stay at Skamania lodge (book a treehouse, highly recommended IMHO), Stevenson, Hood River, White Salmon, Cascade Locks, etc.

Hikes everywhere, waterfalls everywhere. You will not run out of views or things to do.

Want to stay close. Stay anywhere east starting at East Vancouver on the WA side and East of Troutdale on the OR side. If you NEED to stay in Portland Metro, I would suggest getting a nice hotel on the Vancouver Waterfront across the Columbia. Lots of food choices, trails, and close proximity to Fort Vancouver for sight seeing. Best thing, you can walk all of the Waterfront and Downtown Vancouver.

Want close but not too far? Stay at the old Camas Hotel in Camas, WA. Old, historic downtown and nice for the family. Visit Limitless if you wanna see a small gun shop.
 
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Stay outside of the city limits signs and you will be fine. The fact you are going to stay in Portland and let some junkie cuck you says all we need to know about you.

I fucking hate Chicago, even though I'd like to see a few museums in Chicago, I fucking refuse to give money to leftists and fuck them and their crooked voting. For years I went to Ohio every summer, I stopped in Wisconsin and fueled up, then drove straight thru Illinois without spending anything other than required tolls.

If you have no values, your plans are fine. I believe Macolm X was right. I do not spend my money in places or with people who hate me.
 
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corey4 said:
we will be staying in eugene OR for a few days then driving up the coast and staying in portland for 2 days. one of those days we will be going to mt st helens.

we have a list of hotels and i would like to know where to avoid.

if anyone has any points of interest, that would be appreciated as well.

edit to ad:
the hotels look to be near the intl airport, a few hotels are across the river in WA.

thank you.
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What month are you going? I ask because of snow. At mt st Helens we like the windy ridge side and then hike down to spirit lake. In the summer the water is great. But spring I doubt you'll be driving up to windy ridge. The trees that blew off the side of the mountain are still floating around feeding some monster trout. If the wind has blown the trees to your side of the lake and you want to swim just jump in and push the logs away.

Places to avoid. Fuck the downtown Portland train /trolley system where the tracks are directly on the road. It'll kill you
 
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thank you everyone for the suggestions and advice, much appreciated.

we'll be going in mid june so my son can watch one of the track and field events at the university of oregon, not my choice, but whatever. we are flying into eugene and staying for a few days, then flying out of portland due to better flight schedules, so i figure we'll just do some things for a few days in that area as well.
 
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Redmanss said:
Umm… Fellas, Portland is in O-re-gun, not Warshington. Same, but different. But same.

My general rule is to stay one hour outside any major metro area, and to never ever stay inside a beltway. The Dalles east of Portland is decent, but allow time if you have a night/early morning drive because the fog can be real bad off the Columbia River.

But Oregon can be fun in some ways, drink a bunch of beer and save up the empties until about 4am and watch for the homeless crowd to come dumpster diving. Then throw them down into the parking lot and enjoy the bum fights over them.
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Go to TR: the best place in the world! Say Hi to Clint & Heidi!
 
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TR was sold in 2021 and Clint is no longer the primary instructor.

TR is in Lakeview and is @ 4.5 hours from Eugene.

Truthfully, you're in Eugene. Enjoy the events at the track. Aside from that it is a college town with FAR leftists ideas, shitty retail, bad food, and limited things to do. Like to ride a Mt Bike? Some of the best riding in OR (Western US?) is @ 1 hour away in Oakridge. The drive West to the coast is awesome - read the book Some Times a Great Notion by Ken Kesey, it will explain some of the eccentricities you are likely to see.

PDX - unless you like the freak show, go to OMSI, play some golf, head out to PIR see if you can rent a car and do a few laps, drink some beer at a McMinimans, look up food spots in PDX that were featured on Diners Drive ins and Dives, and count down the minutes until you can get the fuck outta there.
 
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softcock said:
Dude the first place to take out of town guests, Always gotta hit the Acropolis and over to Union Jacks for the T&A and brews . Plenty of places to get good food and micro brews all over the place. I dont run anywhere unless I carrying.
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I had to look up UJ to see it was still around....

In my misspent youth I hustled a lot of pool in places like that....the Brown Jug, Dancing Bare, and numerous other shitholes on Burnside, Sandy, Interstate......everyone paid, even the brothers.....nothing says pay me like Buffalo boots, never washed Ben Davis, and a piece rope for a belt.....ah days gone by.....
 
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Truthfully, you're in Eugene. Enjoy the events at the track. Aside from that it is a college town with FAR leftists ideas, shitty retail, bad food, and limited things to do.
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we there last year for the olympic trials, you sir, are correct lol.

One of the days the wife and i rented a car and drove out to the coast while my son got to hang out at the Track Smith hospitality house with all of the athletes, go for a run and shoot hoops with them. It was pretty awesome for him to do that. The coast is unreal, fucking unreal. It makes me hate PA even more.
 
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All the best places are on the coast. Once you land in Eugene, do not stay. Leave. Drive west over to Florence and stay. Hit the Siuslaw National Forest. Hike up to Sweet Creek Falls. Rent a Dune Buggy and drive like a maniac on the sand dunes. Rent a kayak and drift down the Sitlcoos Creek to the ocean. Go to Sea Lion Caves (it's a tourist trap but worth visiting once). The lighthouse you see out of the north cave? Go there, too. Play on that beach below the lighthouse and do not be afraid to get wet. Climb on the rocks. Drive a little north of there until you cross the bridge at Big Creek and turn right on the forest service road. Anywhere from a mile or more find a spot where you think you can climb up from the road and park. Climb. Go disappear into the old growth black timber for a few hours, no trails (except elk trails) no people, and no sun (even if it is a sunny day). You will get to see nature like few others.

Oh, and catch a beer and clam chowder down on Bay Street in old town Florence, right on the Siuslaw river. In the morning, when it is not yet windy, climb out on the jetty all the way out past the breakers. I have usually been lucky and caught some wildlife like a sea lion popping up and looking at me.

Man, so much to do. There is so much more.

None of it is in Eugene or Portland, although there are a few cool sights not far from Portland.

Oh, and Mt. St. Helens is in Washington, for the others posting above.
 
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Grew up there and still visit and miss it. The local cafe folks drove off the state government covid inspectors enforcing mask requirements with guns. It made the news. Nothing ever happened to them. I buy breakfast there every time I am in town.

My kids told me that they never knew there was a place in the world that had so many things to do . . . brought a tear to my eye, but I chuckled, too, because we did not get to half of my list . . . we did make a day trip down to Crater Lake, though, and had a snowball fight. It was 86 degrees. The eastern rim was still closed due to snow.
 
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DocRDS said:
Places to avoid in portland?

"Portland"

Stay on the coast and just drive through. You ain't missin shit.
Mt. St. Helens is awesome.
Coast is Awesome
Portland is ASS (former Portland metro resident and its gone to hell). Burbs are ok (Go west up over the mountain towards forest grove, but its been 20 years)

Been a long time but if you can find a Mcmillan Bros Bar/Restaurant its good family eats and beer.
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Took 16 f'n replies to get "Portland"




Yes, technically 1, with Washington in general, but that condemns some pretty damn cool spots
 
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You want a memory? Go downtown portland on a friday night, there is a really good ice cream place thats open late. I think i might have been Salt and Straw? Anyways. It was good, and my wife was finally convinced im officially retarded.

Coincidentally there was a shooting downtown that same night, but it was like a whole mile away so we were fine.

Some would say avoid downtown altogether, and they would be right. Lol.



Take the short drive up scenic highway 30 towards multnomah falls, beautiful drive! lots of cool places to hike and see waterfalls, many arent visible from the road.
Fyi, need an inexpensive online ticket to get to multnomah falls now.

Go hike Beacon rock.

Drive to astoria and climb that tower. Its like 200 steps?

From astoria Head north across the 4 mile long bridge and on to long beach, drive 55 mph on the beach. Might as well get the car stuck in the dry sand while yer there.

Lots of places along the coast south of astoria that are lovely also.
 
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Be aware that you cannot conceal in Oregon without a license to carry, but you can carry openly. A few (very few) cities, however, ban carrying openly, which puts you in a catch 22 and is, of course, a direct Second Amendment violation.

They do not issue licenses to carry to nonresidents. They also do not reciprocate with other states.

OFF = Oregon Firearms Federation
OFF has good information for you.

They do not have many places actually off limits. It used to be nothing off limits, not schools, even, nothing. But they did away with preemption just a few years ago, so you have to check place by place now. It's exhausting, but that is by design.

As of the summer of 2023, Eugene Airport was not off limits, but the Portland airport was.
 
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Malum Prohibitum said:
Be aware that you cannot conceal in Oregon without a license to carry, but you can carry openly. A few (very few) cities, however, ban carrying openly, which puts you in a catch 22 and is, of course, a direct Second Amendment violation.

They do not issue licenses to carry to nonresidents. They also do not reciprocate with other states.

OFF = Oregon Firearms Federation
OFF has good information for you.

They do not have many places actually off limits. It used to be nothing off limits, not schools, even, nothing. But they did away with preemption just a few years ago, so you have to check place by place now. It's exhausting, but that is by design.

As of the summer of 2023, Eugene Airport was not off limits, but the Portland airport was.
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Yeah, I think Portland is fucking stupid. "Oh, it's legal to open carry in Oregon State, but here in our 'special' town, well, if it is a 'public space' and you don't have concealed carry permit, it has to be unloaded, else you're breaking the 'law'."

Chapter 14A.60 Weapons and Explosives

www.portland.gov www.portland.gov

Just carry fishing rods with you, with GPS navigator set to some spot on the Clackamas River or something; there is an exception, "...while going to or returning from a hunting or fishing expedition."
 
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Go check out mt hood. It’s fun. Ski bowl has summer activities like a Nordic slide (like a luge), bungee jumping, etc. They used to do mountain bike rentals and such as well. Can ride the lift and see the terrain and ride a bike back down the mountain. More fun than st helens. I can’t say much about Portland at least nothing good. You’ve already heard all about that. Unlike @Makinchips208 I don’t go downtown late at night lol. Closest I try to get is the south side passing through on the interstate heading for the coast. Oregon for all of its butthole politics is a really beautiful state.
 
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not help to OP, but I went to google maps, to Eugene. Then as i "flew" around, I noticed that there is a distinct "quilt patch work" look and when you zoom in, you see very distinct, straight edged areas of no trees....almost praire looking areas, but again, it is many of them sewn in among the forest. What is that? it doesn't look natural. it doesn't look like farms. just curious this is to the southwest of Eugene, if you care to look.
 
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TC.TURTLECREEK said:
not help to OP, but I went to google maps, to Eugene. Then as i "flew" around, I noticed that there is a distinct "quilt patch work" look and when you zoom in, you see very distinct, straight edged areas of no trees....almost praire looking areas, but again, it is many of them sewn in among the forest. What is that? it doesn't look natural. it doesn't look like farms. just curious this is to the southwest of Eugene, if you care to look.
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My guess is from commercial logging
 
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TC.TURTLECREEK said:
not help to OP, but I went to google maps, to Eugene. Then as i "flew" around, I noticed that there is a distinct "quilt patch work" look and when you zoom in, you see very distinct, straight edged areas of no trees....almost praire looking areas, but again, it is many of them sewn in among the forest. What is that? it doesn't look natural. it doesn't look like farms. just curious this is to the southwest of Eugene, if you care to look.
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Back in the day as the railroads were being built railroad companies were given every other section of land on both sides of the right away.
 
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Go check out mt hood. It’s fun. Ski bowl has summer activities like a Nordic slide (like a luge), bungee jumping, etc. They used to do mountain bike rentals and such as well. Can ride the lift and see the terrain and ride a bike back down the mountain. More fun than st helens. I can’t say much about Portland at least nothing good. You’ve already heard all about that. Unlike @Makinchips208 I don’t go downtown late at night lol. Closest I try to get is the south side passing through on the interstate heading for the coast. Oregon for all of its butthole politics is a really beautiful state.
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TC.TURTLECREEK said:
not help to OP, but I went to google maps, to Eugene. Then as i "flew" around, I noticed that there is a distinct "quilt patch work" look and when you zoom in, you see very distinct, straight edged areas of no trees....almost praire looking areas, but again, it is many of them sewn in among the forest. What is that? it doesn't look natural. it doesn't look like farms. just curious this is to the southwest of Eugene, if you care to look.
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My guess is from commercial logging
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It is difficult for me to say without seeing which areas you are viewing (I would be familiar with them and could say better looking at them), but if it is in the valley it is farmland.

Oregon was settled later than a lot of other states, and the Willamette Valley was a prime destination for settlers going west. It is a 150 long mile valley with extremely fertile soil and a very good climate for growing. Because Oregon was settled later, the land was divided in squares, on a grid. Even later splits of the original land were done in the same fashion. So the squares you are seeing are an artifact of that. It looks a little strange to those in Virginia or Georgia where land boundaries are convoluted and not square at all.

As you move west and east into the mountains (coastal mountains to the west and Cascades to the east), the land is almost entirely forest with some limited agriculture in valleys in the mountain ranges. So the grid spaces there are going to be clear cut logging v. forest.

The coast was not settled until much more recently. It was really tough to get there and very hard to go anywhere once you got there. In many places the mountains go right up to the ocean and fall off in massive basalt cliffs where the ocean sort of just swells up against them instead of having waves. There is no convenient way to travel there with your wagon or horse or even on foot. Moreover, lots of rivers and creeks dump into the ocean. You had to rely on ferry crossings to move north or south. You had to travel through a pass to move east to the Willamette Valley. Life was hard on the coast until recently. The federal government and the state finally built the Pacific Coast Highway in the 1920s, by blasting those cliffs and then building a two lane highway on it, cliff up to the forest on your east as you drive, ocean far below on your west as you drive and an occasional tunnel through the rock and an occasional very high bridge over a forested river valley. It is a beautiful drive in spots. As a kid, I was not aware of how special it was. Then they put bridges over the rivers, mostly drawbridges. It is the "Main Street" for almost all of the coastal cities, and outside of the coastal cities it is a narrow, two lane road, winding around with cliffs. It is also frequently shut down by landslides. It is very slow going both due to being "Main Street" and following huge RVs up and down winding mountain two lane roads.


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