What are you guys using for transport of these rifles? 50''+ would be great, mostly shooting AR's and a few 24'' barreled rifles.
High quality soft bag?
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Personally, whatever you get, think about your transport first. Like, for me, how wide is my
SUV?
Because I bought some 58” soft bags and then found out that they didn’t fit sideways. Had to put them in at an angle or lengthwise, which sucks if I have a full car or lots of gear in the back.
For my 4runner, a ~55” case is the max to fit sideways.
Anyway:
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TL;DR
For just one case: Buy an AIM 55” bag and use just one of the backpack straps as a shoulder strap. It fits most of my rifles with a 9” suppressor attached.
Armageddon Precision Rifle 52” case is awesome for shorter guns but internally thin (can’t leave most bipods attached), and may not be tall enough if you like high scope mounts. (See below for pics if the two zipper types-long and short. Long one will accept Atlas Cal attached.)
Bulldog 54” BDT80-54T Long Range Rifle Case is conceptually awesome but more cheaply made (zippers, shoulder strap connection, non-welded d-rings). It’s still made pretty well. If it was an inch longer and Armageddon made it, it would be pretty perfect. Maybe add another big pocket.
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SUV?
Because I bought some 58” soft bags and then found out that they didn’t fit sideways. Had to put them in at an angle or lengthwise, which sucks if I have a full car or lots of gear in the back.
For my 4runner, a ~55” case is the max to fit sideways.
Anyway:
Soft vs hard case question
I need a case and I just don't know what to do. I understand the soft case for the range, hard case to travel concept. My application is solely to travel with the case in the trunk of my car to the range, and that's it. I take all my optic (red dot, ACOG, etc.) rifles to the range with various...
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TL;DR
For just one case: Buy an AIM 55” bag and use just one of the backpack straps as a shoulder strap. It fits most of my rifles with a 9” suppressor attached.
Armageddon Precision Rifle 52” case is awesome for shorter guns but internally thin (can’t leave most bipods attached), and may not be tall enough if you like high scope mounts. (See below for pics if the two zipper types-long and short. Long one will accept Atlas Cal attached.)
Bulldog 54” BDT80-54T Long Range Rifle Case is conceptually awesome but more cheaply made (zippers, shoulder strap connection, non-welded d-rings). It’s still made pretty well. If it was an inch longer and Armageddon made it, it would be pretty perfect. Maybe add another big pocket.
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Good point. Is this a problem with basic atlas/harris or just bigger bipods like WB-5, Cyke, Elite iron etc?
I've got two of these for transporting my long rifles to and from the range ... had 'em for years and they're terrific.
Yeah, those are Bulldog OEM or exact copies. I checked them out in person. Only diff I can see is the Cabelas has these irritating curved metal zipper pulls that are comfortable to use in just one orientation.
Ok, so I forgot Armageddon made (or makes?) two slightly different version of their case. One with a full-length zip and one with a half-zip.
I asked and they made the full-length zips for me, but I swear I remember them saying they were replacing all the half-zip with full-zip. But their site doesn’t mention the zipper length, and they removed pics showing the main zipper? Ask em.
Anyway the rifle below is almost 11” tall, scope turret to grip. 10.5” to 10.75”- ish.
KRG W3 chassis, atlas Cal, 1.5” tall scope mount., Razor G2.
Nope. Doesn’t fit the 52” half-zip.
Barely fits the 52” full-zip. See the waviness of the zip? Maxed out.
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I've found almost everything from Armageddon Gear to be pretty dang expensive ... but that's probably just me.
Cabella's bag is $79 ... Armageddon bag is $500+. I just don't see the need to spend $500+ on a soft bag. If I'm beating up my rifles enough to need that, I should go to jail for "Bag Abuse".
For cost and how well they’ve held up I really like the midwayusa drag bag. Think the 50” is like $110 right now. There’s a 42” and 56” I believe as well. Mine are over 10 years old so like anything else quality may be different now. I replace all the zipper strings they send with paracord as those rip off right away
I have a savior I use for most AR stuff I really like to.
I also have a tacops drag bag if you want to go more expensive. Really nice bag. Built in shooting mat. They do group buys once in a while here. Those are like $300 I think
I have a savior I use for most AR stuff I really like to.
I also have a tacops drag bag if you want to go more expensive. Really nice bag. Built in shooting mat. They do group buys once in a while here. Those are like $300 I think
Armageddon Precision Rifle case is $255. If you find it at Brownells, you can get free shipping sometimes.
Precision Rifle Case – Armageddon Gear
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The 58” version is $220 from Brownellls. Don’t see the 52” at this time.
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AG does make some similarly named but way more $$$ cases. Perhaps you got them mixed up?
Also, Brownells carries the Bulldog case for $90 if you don’t like the Cabela’s zipper pulls or if you want tan. Also get a forever warranty with Brownells, not sure about Cabela’s.
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As I mentioned before, for a range bag the Bulldog’s design is best and near perfect for me. If only it was better made, ~1” longer, and had a larger rear pocket instead of that flat thing. It’s not poorly made, but it’s just not up to snuff compared to the USA made AG with YKK zips and real Cordura (edit: and welded d-rings).
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My only prob with Savior is the ones I’ve handled weigh a ton. Maybe not all of them do?
Do they come in a ~55”-56” length? The ones I’ve seen are either about 51” or 61”.
Triad Tactical also makes what seems to be a nice USA made drag bag, but it tops out at 52” length.
My Rem700 26” barrel in a KRG W3 with a 9” suppressor on it fits in a 55” AIM bag, and the AIAT w/24” barrel and TBAC Dominus (~7”) can on it fits the 54” Bulldog (barely…this is dependent on how many butt spacers you run).
Not sure why the more premo bag manufacturers don’t factor transport with a can attached? First world probs bro lol
I think it’s a 50”. Vudoo tactical makes a longer one that I have. Think 56”
I personally would buy two cheaper bags. One for AR and one for long guns. Keep gear separate but also you’re not hauling a bag twice the size of the rifle around
My AIAT with 20” 308 barrel and TBAC ultra 9 fit perfectly in my tac ops bag.
For my other AIAT I run longer barrels like my 28” 260 barrel. That one I use QD TBAC brake and remove the 338 ultra I use on that when I transport
Yeah, I’m tracking that removal idea. Just rather not do it. Might get boxed in, regardless, as the Magnus SR can is 9.7” long…(future purchase, maybe).
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One question I have to ask, is about the folding version of the w3 stock.
Does that help at all for real world transit? Or is it more problems than it might seem at first? I've seen folded stocks be a bit bulkt and hard to put into backpacks for hunting, and they don't always protect the optic/eyepiece all that well, etc.
This is a really useful example below, however.. w3 with a Razor and NV standard 1.5 mount running a 56 objective. Alot of guys running non-folding KRGs with Vortex's and similar size bipods.
Does that help at all for real world transit? Or is it more problems than it might seem at first? I've seen folded stocks be a bit bulkt and hard to put into backpacks for hunting, and they don't always protect the optic/eyepiece all that well, etc.
This is a really useful example below, however.. w3 with a Razor and NV standard 1.5 mount running a 56 objective. Alot of guys running non-folding KRGs with Vortex's and similar size bipods.
Folding stocks, in my experience, don’t really offer soft case transport advantages unless you mount your scope far forward enough so that the ocular isn’t the rear-most bit of your gun.
Otherwise, like you said, when it’s in the pack it on your back it’s the bottom thing your rifle is resting on. Or if you are carrying it horizontally and bump the rear of the bag, you could smack your scope.
AIM makes two drag bags meant for folding rifles, one for left folding, and one for right folding. If your scope is mounted far forward enough, I think those would work. However, for me with a long suppressor attached, they are still not long enough.
The main advantage for a folding stock for me is it’s easier to clean the bore as I don’t have to remove the cheekpiece. And on the AIAT, for example, even removing the cheekpiece isn’t enough for the cleaning rod to clear the butt pad as it sticks up. I have to sort of bend the rod a little to get the rod handle over that butt pad.
Anyway, none of my bags fit a folding rifle. Although I can’t remember if I can fit one in the bulldog when folded. That’s the widest case I have. But it doesn’t matter as my scope ocular hangs too far back.
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Expensive, but well thought out and great quality:
www.milehighshooting.com
AIM Field Sports - Official USA Distributor - MHSA
Aim Field Sports® is a leading producer of hunting and tactical gear for all types of shooting. Well known for their dragbags and shooting mats.
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Yeah, they are nice, but made in Asia (I checked with AIM). I own the 55”. However, MH is jacking the prices way up. The 55” is £205 on AIM’s UK site, and $330 on MH.Expensive, but well thought out and great quality:
AIM Field Sports - Official USA Distributor - MHSA
Aim Field Sports® is a leading producer of hunting and tactical gear for all types of shooting. Well known for their dragbags and shooting mats.
Current change rate would make it $260.
The USA made Armageddon Gear bags are better made. (Edit: as probably are the TacOps and Triad Tactical. I just don’t own those).
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Surprised no one mentioned Voodoo drag bags. They are my favs. Though it looks like they discontinued their 60" bags - better take good care of the one I've got for my thumper.
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For $200, I think I’ve settled on the 55” savior LRP Case. Also comes in smaller sizes
www.saviorequipment.com
Specialist LRP Rifle Case - 47"/51"/55"
Just to raise the bar on how a precision rifle case should function, we made a few quality of life improvements that are tailored for the long range precision shooter, including the all-new scope +muzzle cover and new removable CORE8x4 pouches.
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If you want a decent bag at a cheap price the Midway USA drag bag is a pretty decent. I have a couple, and they work. Normally I transport in a Pelican case. If money isn’t an issue I agree on the Armageddon bag, they make great gear.
www.midwayusa.com
MidwayUSA Sniper Drag Bag Tactical Rifle Case 42 Coyote
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Another vote for the Savior Urban Warfare. I like it a lot better than their specialist case. More padding.
I got the Midway sniper drag bag 56” a couple months ago for my PRS rifle with a 28” barrel and fat bastard. It fits with plenty of room and seems like a good quality bag
I have standardized on the Armageddon precision rifle bag. It is simple, well padded, super strong from an established shooting company.
Have the shorter PRB before they discontinued it. Not cheap, but it's no $500 either. They seem to be missing the longer TCC bags as an option as well. Which is weird because the 30" will not fit 16" barreled rifles. Hope it is just temporary.
I do plan on picking up a second PRB though.
I do plan on picking up a second PRB though.
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Since I’m a bag whore, might was well ask.
With the Midway bag, how’s the fabric compared to real Cordura? The substitute stuff can be pretty decent, but the discontinued multicam might’ve been made of a better material than the others.
And how are the zippers? Reviews indicate they are robust.
With the Midway bag, how’s the fabric compared to real Cordura? The substitute stuff can be pretty decent, but the discontinued multicam might’ve been made of a better material than the others.
And how are the zippers? Reviews indicate they are robust.
If you want a decent bag at a cheap price the Midway USA drag bag is a pretty decent. I have a couple, and they work. Normally I transport in a Pelican case. If money isn’t an issue I agree on the Armageddon bag, they make great gear.
MidwayUSA Sniper Drag Bag Tactical Rifle Case 42 Coyote
The MidwayUSA Sniper Drag Bag Scoped Rifle Case is the perfect gun case for competition or a day at the range. The MidwayUSA Sniper Drag Bag Scoped...
Besides my above zipper/fabric q’s, tagging on a few more questions about the Midway bag, as I noticed it has a shoulder strap as well! Something my AIM does not, which necessitates using a backpack strap as a shoulder strap. It’s fine, but kinda weird.
I called Midway and they didn’t know the answers to these questions.
These are all about the 56” model, which according to the reviews, may have different options through the years, and may differ from the other sizes too.
Is the divider removable? If so, which side of the Velcro is left in the bag (soft?). (Some reviews say yes, others no, some say the rough side of the Velcro remains)
Is the muzzle padding thing removable? (Some reviews say yes, others no)
And finally, is the rain nose-cone thing removable? (Again, some reviews say yes, others no, with some jury-rigging it)
I know one can cut this stuff off, but just wanted to know before potentially buying one. I blew off this bag but am coming around due to you guys.
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This is probably what I use the most, made by Armageddon Gear:
www.gaprecision.net
G.A. Precision Range Bag | G.A. Precision
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Are these real nylon? or polyester? It is another good Q. That and the nose cone coming off easy (ie to leave it at home).
This is probably what I use the most, made by Armageddon Gear:
G.A. Precision Range Bag | G.A. Precision
That's a great deal for $135 if you already got it or they come back in stock. The AG bags were $170 like 3 years ago also, now they are $250. I'd guess the next batch of the GA bags comes with a price bump.
I remember that one. Is that a full zip? Looks like it. And 54” internallyThis is probably what I use the most, made by Armageddon Gear:
G.A. Precision Range Bag | G.A. Precision
I wanted bigger pockets, but that has a good price, especially for a USA-made bag.
I remember that one. Is that a full zip? Looks like it. And 54” internally
I wanted bigger pockets, but that has a good price, especially for a USA-made bag.
Yep full zip. A little narrow, have to remove bipod but thats no big deal.
On mine the zippers are robust. Bigger zipper/teeth than my tacops bag. Never had an issue
Divider is removable. Yes the rough end is left in the bag. I leave mine in anyways as extra padding for the gun
Not sure what you mean by muzzle padding? Mine may not have this. It doesn’t have a place for the muzzle to go into like my tacops bag I think has.
The nose cone is held in by a single 3” strap sewn to the bag. I tied the side with paracord otherwise is likes to flip off. My tacops I completely removed it because there was no place to tie it to and every time you grabbed the bag the nose cone was hanging off. You could just cut the strap and be fine on the midway one or paracord to the loops which is what I did with mine and zero issue anymore
My midwayusa bag is probably 15 years old. Has held up very well. Like anything else they probably found a way to make it cheaper in the current market but that’s the info I can provide on what they used to be.
My midway one does have a shoulder strap. My tacops ops doesn’t and I wish it did
In 100% complete honesty. If you let me handle the tac ops and midway bag next to each other on a table with no idea who’s bag they were you wouldn’t think less of either. When you flip the price tag around I’ll bet you grab the midway bag every time.
I like supporting companies here. Which is why I got the tacops bag in a group buy. I use it all the time. It’s my go to bag for my AI.
If you were dragging these through the dirt and what not it be a real test for stitching and fabric. But for 90% of what people do with their drag bag going to and from range or field either will be perfectly fine
That said. If you buy a tacops or similar quality bag you’re buying quality. You know you’re getting top quality. If you cheap out and the midway bag isn’t of the same quality it was many years ago (which you can almost guarantee it won’t be) the you’ll end up with two bags.
I needed a second bag a couple years ago. I seen some negative reviews on the midway ones in current market. I decided to buy a quality bag. I got a quality bag. So my advice is if you want to spend $110 get the midway bag and risk it. If you have $300-$400 to spend get quality bag and you won’t regret it. That’s any quality bag not just shilling for tacops it just the quality one I own and use a lot
Thats what happens when you make stuff in the US, with real US labor, with Real high quality products and stand behind them 100% for life. Oh and they support the shooting community like few others do in gear on prize tables, cash for AG cup, ect.
Or you can buy cheap Chinese slave labor shit that will break after a couple of uses and then wonder why you didn't buy quality gear and support American companies and labor from the start. Tom puts alot of gear on prize tables that he doesn't have to. Almost every sniper in the US military is using a game changer bag either issues to them, or bought on their dime.
Its not that great of a deal when you realize it is made much lighter with less padding and pockets. Its not the same quality as the regular AG bags, which really are in a league of their own.
Its called inflation. Do people make the same wages they did 5 years ago? Are insurance rates the same? What about machinery, electricity , raw materials, ect. No one is getting rich makes textiles in the US anymore. Margins are MUCH lower than imported Chinese junk as well.
Its an imported bag as well.....Have the shorter PRB before they discontinued it. Not cheap, but it's no $500 either. They seem to be missing the longer TCC bags as an option as well. Which is weird because the 30" will not fit 16" barreled rifles. Hope it is just temporary.
I do plan on picking up a second PRB though.
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Our products are all produced using materials from the US and Korea in our company owned factory in Saigon (HCMC), Vietnam.
That's code for we source stuff wherever is cheapest and use slave labor.
I totally agree with you about trying to go USA, @DeathBeforeDismount. In fact, I have an embarrassing number of AG bags…like, I could buy a quite nice Tikka with the cash spent.
Like I said, bag whore!
My issue with every single USA made bag is they aren’t long enough, or too long.
Beside range use, the biggest reason I need a 55-56” bag is for pdog shooting. It’s got to fit crossways in my 4runner (4-5 guns side-by-side, packed like sardines), as we stop a lot to shoot at different spots for 7-10 days. The rotating table is in the back, taking up a lot of room.
And it’s got to be long enough to fit my main guns with suppressors attached, as it’s a pain to detach/reattach the can each and every time we stop and get back into the truck.
If we stop eight times, that’s sixteen suppressor attaching/detaching for just one rifle. I have two guns that are long enough to be a problem, so that would be 32 times lol!
For some reason the USA manufactures don’t make a 54-55-56” bag? It’s either 51-53” or 61”.
So, I go looking for some darn Asian bag.
Like I said, bag whore!
My issue with every single USA made bag is they aren’t long enough, or too long.
Beside range use, the biggest reason I need a 55-56” bag is for pdog shooting. It’s got to fit crossways in my 4runner (4-5 guns side-by-side, packed like sardines), as we stop a lot to shoot at different spots for 7-10 days. The rotating table is in the back, taking up a lot of room.
And it’s got to be long enough to fit my main guns with suppressors attached, as it’s a pain to detach/reattach the can each and every time we stop and get back into the truck.
If we stop eight times, that’s sixteen suppressor attaching/detaching for just one rifle. I have two guns that are long enough to be a problem, so that would be 32 times lol!
For some reason the USA manufactures don’t make a 54-55-56” bag? It’s either 51-53” or 61”.
So, I go looking for some darn Asian bag.
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I assume you weren’t addressing me. Because the XL is way too long to fit crossways in my SUV. For example, my 58” AG bags are too long.
Do your rifles fit crossways in your SUV with their suppressors attached?
The TacOps bags aren't rigid in the same way as other bags, so if the rifle is shorter than the bag, you just kind of squish it down to fit in the vehicle.
The L is about 50" and the XL is about 60"
You might ask if they can make you a custom length one that is inbetween the two.
The .mil spec/USA bags need to go inside pelican cases I'm betting. Because 42 then 52 then 55 is the sequnce of internal sizes for Pelican protektor cases (1720/1750/1770). The Mk22 case needs to be at/under 55in, for the 1790 pelican IIRC.For some reason the USA manufactures don’t make a 54-55-56” bag? It’s either 51-53” or 61”.
So, I go looking for some darn Asian bag.
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Yeah, they fit crosswise with little to spare when in the cases.
My bags (Armageddon, AIM, Bulldog, Creedmoor Sports) aren’t rigid like a Voodoo/Savior-type rectangular bag. The problem is that when my too-long bags bends/crimps, that crimp, in and of itself, eats up 2-3” (the fabric and padding). Talking about specifically about the Armageddon 58”.
There’s four to five guns packed together like sardines, so the excess fabric/padding has nowhere to go.
I can’t imagine the TacOps being less rigid, but maybe it is?
Maybe I’ll call them and ask if they can do a custom. I’m really deep into the first-world probs area here lol.
Some of those pdog states are pretty laid back on cases. Any chance you can just run a 50” with it hanging out the back?
Just dead-deer it. Toss it on the hood.
This is an argument for the old two-door pickup rear window gun rack.
I had an Armageddon precision rifle soft case and I will never buy another soft case without a full length double zipper.
This case looks interesting. It’s available in 56”
tandkhunting.com
This case looks interesting. It’s available in 56”
Soft Rifle Case
Veteran owned company that specializes in manufacturing nylon hunting gear in the United States
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