Was not aware of that.The hatefest between Bill Geissele and Mark Larue continues to be one of the silliest and most entertaining bits of AR mfg lore. I hope they never get over it.
Only of Frank and mark
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Join the contestWas not aware of that.The hatefest between Bill Geissele and Mark Larue continues to be one of the silliest and most entertaining bits of AR mfg lore. I hope they never get over it.
Good to see that the Gasport groove don't go all the way around so a clamp or set screw AGB should work perfectly, honestly I haven't had a recent Geissele barrel that was over-gassed.Gas holes are. Special. View attachment 8630758View attachment 8630759View attachment 8630760
Contour seems perfect. AI barrel for comparison
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Gas holes are. Special. View attachment 8630758View attachment 8630759View attachment 8630760
Contour seems perfect. AI barrel for comparison
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Yes CL. Won last year I thinkI see they have a heavy barrel & standard here:
But I can’t find the Geissele contour for the life of me.
Unless it’s this?
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Not a barfcom member BTW.
What year did you win the uppers?
Your uppers have the chrome lined barrels?
as far as BCG I’m a fan of JP LMOSI would ask Geissele since they have the most experience with what makes those guns run.
They’re going to say to use their gas block, since they can’t control anyone else’s dims.
For me, I would want something press-fit, so I would spec the block to be sized to the journal.
Most of the after-market gas blocks have to be sized to slip-fit, otherwise they’ll be dealing with a high return rate on a low-cost part, which will make that particular SKU not generate revenue to justify it.
Measure the journal when you get it to see if it’s actually .750”, vs .7492” or something under-sized.
With 3 ports and the volume of the trench, any leakage will likely short-stroke the BCG.
You’ll want an efficient BCG too, not a sloppy nitrided cheap parts BCG that are all so common today.
Why not an enhanced upperMy tracking information has the barrels arriving on the 6th, I'll post pics with full details when they arrive.
I have everything needed to assemble them into complete Uppers.
I went with the following parts.
Vltor Mur FDE upper receiver for increased rigidity over the standard Geissele upper receivers.
Geissele FDE 15" MK16 Handguards.
Standard low profile Plain Jane Gas blocks, I would normally go with SA Set screw AGB but I'm sure as their standard Barrels are gassesd perfectly it won't be needed.
I'll try the Geissele Gas Blocks but the pre drilled pinning hole gives me pause for potential gas leaks, I won't know my options until I have the barrels but I'll demonstrate on here what will be best suited for this application in full detail.
( When I do a finally assembly I always seal my Gas Systems with Loctite 620, the gas tube is sealed in the Gas block and the Gas block is fully sealed around the gas block journal.)
Geissele Ambi FDE Charging Handle.
For BCGs I pick up to different types.
(1) BCM in FDE
(2) Superlative Arms FDE Carrier and JP bolt kit with Springco Gas rings.
Let me know if you have any specific questions or concerns and I'll do my best to address them.
Also one of these complete Uppers will go to the PX.
Jake
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This might be a decent option for a tight fitting gas block.
Giving away secrets in this thread now are we?
Brah do you even shoot positionalEwww
It was tongue in cheek. 620 is wicking grade though and you should be able to apply it through the front of the gas block and gas tube (if block has open front).
I'll have in the PX but it will be in a complete Upper.If anyone nabbed one of these and decided they didn’t want it give me a holler. I meant to buy one but fiddle farted around and missed out.
Brah do you even shoot positional
Edit by enhanced I mean as a category. Larue LMT aero Vltor mono etc
I will."If" someone has a pin gauge set... could they measure the gas port sizes ?
Meh.One of the ideas I've been kicking around is building a complete LMT set-up.
I already have the MARS Ambidextrious Precision Lower and a 13.25" MPR upper. I could send one of the barrels to D-Willson and have him mod the barrel.
What y'all think?
Pump action AR with a FRT or nothingOne of the ideas I've been kicking around is building a complete LMT set-up.
I already have the MARS Ambidextrious Precision Lower and a 13.25" MPR upper. I could send one of the barrels to D-Willson and have him mod the barrel.
What y'all think?
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I think the radial delay is really interesting especially for 10mm/45. That new Griffin Armament boltcarrier is interesting as well.Oh hell's ya!!..lol
I just don't need any more rifles, the Safes are overflowing something wicked to the point I'm playing fucking Jenga every time I want to grab something out.
So my way of thinking is smaller guns are the way to go moving forward, so the new project is a SBR CMMG Dissent MK4 9MM 10.5" Complete Upper that I'm pairing with a ADM UIC Ambi Lower.
If you don’t build it out holler. I’d give you some extra for the troubleI'll have in the PX but it will be in a complete Upper.
I just did exactly that. Just got my Craddock Precision Bartlein barrel back from D Wilson today.One of the ideas I've been kicking around is building a complete LMT set-up.
I already have the MARS Ambidextrious Precision Lower and a 13.25" MPR upper. I could send one of the barrels to D-Willson and have him mod the barrel.
What y'all think?
This is what I'm doing. Although Ive got a WOA barrel headed my way. Didn't know about this one when I ordered.One of the ideas I've been kicking around is building a complete LMT set-up.
I already have the MARS Ambidextrious Precision Lower and a 13.25" MPR upper. I could send one of the barrels to D-Willson and have him mod the barrel.
What y'all think?
Idk if you all saw it but WOA is getting a new owner and moving. Got the email yesterday
Sold it completely and they are moving to Nevada I think it saidHollinger is selling White oak? Or is he stepping down and finally retiring?
The email they sent out.Hollinger is selling White oak? Or is he stepping down and finally retiring?
Sold it completely and they are moving to Nevada I think it said
That was my thinking, have used a few parts from them but hope QC and CS don’t suffer tragically in this shift.99.99% of the time when there's a shift like this QC definitely goes down so if anybody is wanting to order any barrels I would quickly purchase what they haven't stock now cuz there will be a lot of growing pains after the move.
It'd be sad to see that happen, but it also seems like the market is saturated with companies making decent SPR barrels.
If mine doesn't shoot I'll probably order a Geisselle.
Has anyone shot theirs yet?
I could be wrong but I belive that's a completely different barrel. The one in this thread is a 416R rifle cut barrel and the one in the other thread is CHF.It has nothing to do with SPR barrels, John Hollinger is the Godfather of High Power Competition Match Barrels.
And in regards to Geissele SPR Barrels...
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I could be wrong but I belive that's a completely different barrel. The one in this thread is a 416R rifle cut barrel and the one in the other thread is CHF.
Yeah I know that, I just wanted you to see what the current 16" and 14.5 heavy Contour barrels are producing pretty hard to beat that accuracy in fact I'm almost kind of skeptive that accuracy game will be marginal.
I took both of my 16" and 14.5" Geissele heavy Contour barrels out yesterday and I will post pictures of the groups here in a second, thay all look to be Sub Half MOA.
It's kind of damn hard to beat that.
New project. Prolly use a aero enhanced upper with sgt of arms handguardThis a re-barrel or a whole new project Burt?
But does the poa/poi change from bipod to bag etc.The current GFR line is utilizing the traditional upper to handguard system and they are showing exceptional accuracy, so again do t see the need.
But does the poa/poi change from bipod to bag etc.
The RD15 thread is enlightening
How do the standard contour barrels shoot ?I'm at the range right now I'll do a point of impact shift with a Geissele 16 in heavy Contour Barrel it has their upper receiver and 16-in mk16 handguard
Will you be testing those 73grain ELDs with a can?All 5 shot groups of various types of factory ammo with the exception of some cheap 55 grain stuff I use to season the clean barrels before I shot the groups and a couple random 77 Grand tmks I had hanging around. The Geissele heavy Contour barrels truly love the 73 grain projectiles.
As far as I'm aware of this is groundbreaking accuracy out of chrome line barrels.
But does the poa/poi change from bipod to bag etc.
The RD15 thread is enlightening
Will you be testing those 73grain ELDs with a can?
Ehhh went down the road. Was not happy with my resultsOne of the ideas I've been kicking around is building a complete LMT set-up.
I already have the MARS Ambidextrious Precision Lower and a 13.25" MPR upper. I could send one of the barrels to D-Willson and have him mod the barrel.
What y'all think?
5 shot group?The groups above groups and the ones I just posted we're shot with a CAN and Hornady 73gr Elds
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