Anyone Shooting a 40x?

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I picked up this old 40x 22lr at a show last weekend. Been keeping my eyes peeled for one for a while. Definitely did not get a 'deal' but I never see these for sale and wanted it.

It came with the redfield Olympics which worked great at 25 yards, 1 hole basically.

I put my NXS on it for 50 and 100yds and it didn't disappoint. Shot a whole box of tac22 into a 1.5 inch group at 100 with most rounds into an inch.

Who else is shooting one still? Yes I refinished the stock, the original varnish was very ugly.
 

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Try a box of SK Rifle Match, I bet it will tighten right up. They are wonderful rifles.
Yeah I need to get a few boxes of some higher end stuff for sure. Especially for 100yd shooting.

I agree, it's really a high quality rifle. It feels tight and solid like a custom action when you work the bolt; you can tell the tolerances were held very tight when it was machined. The inletting on the stock is excellent too.

The serial is under 0350, so it's one of the first ones off the line. It needs a Unertl and a new buttpad and it's 'perfect'.
 
I’ve often wondered how they stack up against the new kids on the block ….. RimX /Vudoo
I think after a certain degree of precision in machining it comes down to the ammo and the shooter on any given day.

I've had days where I shot so well with a known load and rifle and the next time I shoot i try and duplicate that day it goes to shit from the first shot. It's almost always the operator, past a certain level of ammo and rifle.

I'm hoping to find a period correct Unertl for this rifle and see how it does in the local 100yd BR comp against the high dollar rigs. Not that this was a cheap rifle by any means.
 
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I have had mine for many many years , it loves CCI SV . What ever you choose to send down the pipe , stay with the same ammo . Mine is dressed as an 66 vintage M40 . It shoots as well as any new rifle being produced . Mine is a 3 digit serial number .

Just always remember they were built by an American worker , going to work to provide and raise their family . They had the upmost pride in the products they produced . You have one of the old good produced , guns . Get adjusted to ammo and shooting it and it will be like mine , never for sale .
 
I have had mine for many many years , it loves CCI SV . What ever you choose to send down the pipe , stay with the same ammo . Mine is dressed as an 66 vintage M40 . It shoots as well as any new rifle being produced . Mine is a 3 digit serial number .

Just always remember they were built by an American worker , going to work to provide and raise their family . They had the upmost pride in the products they produced . You have one of the old good produced , guns . Get adjusted to ammo and shooting it and it will be like mine , never for sale .
When I was younger I was on the look out for one but never really found one when I had the cash. Congratulations on a great rifle.
 
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I have had mine for many many years , it loves CCI SV . What ever you choose to send down the pipe , stay with the same ammo . Mine is dressed as an 66 vintage M40 . It shoots as well as any new rifle being produced . Mine is a 3 digit serial number .

Just always remember they were built by an American worker , going to work to provide and raise their family . They had the upmost pride in the products they produced . You have one of the old good produced , guns . Get adjusted to ammo and shooting it and it will be like mine , never for sale .
You are right that I'll probably never sell it. I buy and sell a lot of guns but there's something special with this one.

If it ever needs a replacement barrel it will definitely be a clone of the factory barrel.

The guy I got it from shot less than 2 boxes out of it in the 35 years he'd had it. He also has 3 or 4 more apparently. Older fellow in a wheelchair, doesn't shoot much anymore I suspect. He told me to come visit him any time and to bring cash lol
 
See, now I want to find a 222 version to go with this one. I think they're either all shot up or in collectors safes. Everyone I meet who has 1 has more than 1..
Having owned a few and shot a few buddies'.....your wasting time. Go get an old small bolt face 700 action and have .222 barrel spun up. Slap a aftermarket trigger in and bed a stock. I've personally wanted a .17 Rem repeater. Waiting for a real 40X to wander by isn't all it's cracked up to be compared to what we commonly build now.
 
Nice looking rifles guys! I think we all owe it to ourselves to shoot these old rifles more often
Your 40-x is a fine looking specimen, Noremorse!

I shoot my 40X's in a weekly small bore club match. One week we shoot 50 yards and the next 100 yards. One of my 40x's is set up for the 100y and the other for the 50y.

Many of the guys use Winchester 52's, a few use Anschutz's, and a few more use CZ's.

AFAIK I'm the only one using 40x's.
 
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I'm hoping to find a period correct Unertl for this rifle and see how it does in the local 100yd BR comp against the high dollar rigs. Not that this was a cheap rifle by any means.
I bet it will shoot just fine with the Unertl

I've got a BSA Martini that I mounted an old style Lyman Super Targetspot on. It shoots pretty well.

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Your 40-x is a fine looking specimen, Noremorse!

I shoot my 40X's in a weekly small bore club match. One week we shoot 50 yards and the next 100 yards. One of my 40x's is set up for the 100y and the other for the 50y.

Many of the guys use Winchester 52's, a few use Anschutz's, and a few more use CZ's.

AFAIK I'm the only one using 40x's.
How is it stacking up against the modern rifles? Have you managed to test it vs say a vudoo or rimx?
 
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My ‘ol 40XB hasn’t been out of the safe nearly enough. Have taken it to 400+ but the tightest group I remember was with a buddy punching 200, 5 rounds into an inch (and you wouldn’t believe the ammo).
Love that M-Lok nuts fit the accessory rail just fine 👍
That's a beauty sir! What scope have you got on it there??
 
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I picked up this old 40x 22lr at a show last weekend. Been keeping my eyes peeled for one for a while. Definitely did not get a 'deal' but I never see these for sale and wanted it.

It came with the redfield Olympics which worked great at 25 yards, 1 hole basically.

I put my NXS on it for 50 and 100yds and it didn't disappoint. Shot a whole box of tac22 into a 1.5 inch group at 100 with most rounds into an inch.

Who else is shooting one still? Yes I refinished the stock, the original varnish was very ugly.

What a nice looking and shooting piece of history! What did you use to refinish the stock? I love the color.
 
What a nice looking and shooting piece of history! What did you use to refinish the stock? I love the color.
I stripped it, sanded to 600 grit. Then used minwax dark walnut stain, 2 coats. Then sanded in 3 coats of boiled linseed oil with varying grits up to 2000 grit. Then I buffed it with a rag. That's about it I think
 
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I was fortunate enough to be qualified to purchase two 40XBs & a single old 40X from the CMP from 2004-2007. The prices were right - in the $385 range, and the two heavy 40XBs were in really nice shape, and both shot really well at 50-100yds with the Lapua made Wolf Match Target & Match Extra I was shooting back then. I let a good friend have one of the 40XBs, and wound up pulling the bbls off the other two, then sending the actions off to Jonathan Elrod at Modocam Rifles for the conversion to repeaters using V22 magazines. I did the machine work to install a Lilja titebore on the converted 40XB, and did the same with a Benchmark blank for the 40X. Both shot very well with these custom barrels that I chambered with an EPS reamer, and I shot them in PRS-type 22rf matches at a semi-local club, being well pleased with both of them. When Vudoo released their Gen 1 actions, I bought one of the early ones and put a Krieger in sendero profile on it. The Vudoo was every bit as accurate - probably a bit better - than either of the converted 40Xs, and it ran smoother. Kinda makes me wish I'd have kept the 40XB in its original state as a single shot target rifle, but it's still an absolute hammer as a repeater with good lots of SK Rifle Match & Lapua Center-X. Photo is of the 40XB with 26" Lilja titebore bbl, in a Manners T4A in woodland camo w/mini-chassis, and Athlon Cronus scope. That Lilja bbl is one of the most accurate barrels I've done for any of my rifles, but it needs wiped out with Ed's Red every 125~ rounds to maintain that accuracy.
 

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My 40X started out as a 40XB in 1962 that I bought in maybe 2010. I shot it with irons for a long time. But it was never good at 100. I finally got a borescope and sure enough almost half way down the barrel was a big patch of rust (looked black). So I had it rebarreled and now it shoots less than 1 moa at 100. Unfortunately I have to say it still doesn't beat my 1962 Anschutz 54 (Model Match) that I also had rebarreled or my CZ457 MTR.

I shoot this match at 100 yards that is based on the 1000 yard Palma match scaled down to 100 yards. So the bulls have decreasing 10 rings. The equivalent 800 yard target is a 1.95 10 ring, the 900 is 1.75 10 ring and the 1000 is 1.55 10 ring. They do 2 classes of Palma (slinged in) and F-class. AT 76 I shoot f-class and I have shot to first place with all 3 of my guns.

But I have to say that my heart is for the 40X. Sorry the only pictures I have of it is some I had taken for explaining how I set up the stock for benchrest. And no this was not my original stock. This was a $25 mess. The original was saved.

David
 

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Great guns, I call mine Old Reliable. It's my Go To for our local Long Range rimfire matches.

Not really even trying for a tight group but was chronographing some Lapua SLR at 197 yards. 5 shots.

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I Loves IT! Chronographing using steel instead of paper targets. I get so bored shooting paper. Let me hit something, If I wanted to just punch holes in paper, a hole puncher is a whole lot cheaper. Nice shooting.
 
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This 40-X Position Rifle came to me last Fall in pristine condition. Wearing a Redfield Mark 8 rear and hand stop.
Trigger is superb!
I have two matching rifles in 7.62 NATO. One wears Redfield micrometer and one I scoped.
Yesterday was the first time I got to shoot and verify sights on this rifle.
Had to move the Mark 8 to it's furthest rear position.
Checked the windage and elevation at 25 yds, windage ok and shot in the black, so adjusted up and went to 100 yds.
Used CMP ELEY from the first cases I purchased a few years ago with 150 round boxes.
Took a few shots until I was in the 10 ring on a 100 yds Military Target but the condition were two breezy to waste Tenex on locating the X ring. The last two shots shown were in the 10 Ring, slightly less than 1/2" center to center.
With the Mark having 1/8" MOA clicks, it's easy to 'chase your tail' if you are shooting more than 1/8" group.
The Mark 8 also does not suffer from the sloppy adjustments of the Olympic Redfield.
When calm conditions prevail will complete the location of an X-Ring zero.
A beautiful example of a Remington 40-X position rifle that shoots right out of the box so to speak!
-Richard

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I don't know how I've overlooked these for decades while shooting 10/22T's, CZ's , cheap Annies etc.

So please excuse my ignorance, but several questions;

Assume they accept both triggers & SA stocks made for a 700?

Are the bolts smooth, lift extract, feed & close? Any gremlins or cons?

Thinking a barrel chop, to 18-22" might be the thing to do for a big scope bench rest type trigger, etc.
 
I don't know how I've overlooked these for decades while shooting 10/22T's, CZ's , cheap Annies etc.

So please excuse my ignorance, but several questions;
The 40X and 40XB is its own gun. It is not a converted 722 or 700 action into a rimfire. It's looks like a centerfire on the outside. But internally it is it's own animal. The the bolt is nothing like a centerfire internally.

Assume they accept both triggers & SA stocks made for a 700?

Yes. Although the 40X is a 722 style shroud and the factory safety may require clearancing. The 40XB is 700 style shroud and everything 700 should mate up no problem.
Are the bolts smooth, lift extract, feed & close? Any gremlins or cons?

They are single shot only. Unless you get ahold of the repeater conversion kits from Vudoo (if they still offer them) and pay a Smith to mill the reciever. Remington arguably never made a better rimfire than what the 40X/40XB. Some 37 owners may argue it.
Thinking a barrel chop, to 18-22" might be the thing to do for a big scope bench rest type trigger, etc.

These are Remington Custom Shop guns....the only reason to cut the barrel is if it's NOT a benchrest rifle....or it's been damaged.
 
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While it's true that Mike Bush designed the repeater conversion for the 40X/XB and the V22 repeater action, to the best of my knowledge, Vudoo Gun Works never offered a repeater conversion for the Remington actions. Mike put the CAD/CAM drawings out there for the conversion to several gunsmiths, but - again, to the best of my knowledge - Jonathan Elrod was pretty much the one guy who specialized in doing the conversions while Mike & VGW were working to bring the V22 action to market. I've always thought that one of the main reasons Mike designed the conversion was to get as many of his V22 magazines out there & into the hands of a good number of shooters to 'proof' them and provide him with a lot of feedback whilst he was working on the V22 action. And no doubt, when guys got their relatively inexpensive CMP 40X/XB actions converted and were able to reap the advantages of having a .22RF repeater that was nearly identical in weight & proportions to their M700 CF rifles, it was a game changer, whether they wanted an accurate RF trainer for their CF comp rifles, or for all the .22RF competition games like NRL22 & 22RF PRS that were just becoming popular. I've always thought that his marketing strategy was genius - making the repeater conversion available to take advantage of the thousands of CMP 40X/XB rifles out there, and at the same time, creating enough demand for the V22 action so that when they were released, the demand was already there.

I'd bought several of the 40X/XB rifles from the CMP years before the V22 or even its concept had come on the scene, and had come to appreciate what an accurate rifle they were. But the XB heavy bbl model had a truck axle bbl that made it quite a bit heavier than comparable smallbore rifles like the Winchester 52 C&D models that the CMP was also selling, and the European smallbore rifles like the Anschutz 54 & Walther 500 series. The 40X's feeding tray wasn't as easy to work with while slung-up in prone as were the 52Ds or the 54s or 500s. I could more-or-less just toss a round into the action of my Anschutz 1611, while the Remington rifles were a good deal clumsier to feed while in prone. When Vudoo came out with the V22S single shot, they'd made it at least as easy to single load as the M54. Still, I find myself wishing that I'd kept one of the nicer CMP 40XBs in its original smallbore target configuration. Instead, I let a friend have one of my XBs to get his kids into shooting them with the Redfield irons, and sent both the others off to Jelrod for the repeater conversions. They were the pinnacle of Remington's smallbore rifles - though I'm sure that there are plenty of Rem 37 owners out there that will argue that point. I'm just grateful that the CMP made as many of these rifles & all the other former ROTC smallbore rifles they sold over the years available at affordable prices.
 
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While it's true that Mike Bush designed the repeater conversion for the 40X/XB and the V22 repeater action, to the best of my knowledge, Vudoo Gun Works never offered a repeater conversion for the Remington actions. Mike put the CAD/CAM drawings out there for the conversion to several gunsmiths, but - again, to the best of my knowledge - Jonathan Elrod was pretty much the one guy who specialized in doing the conversions while Mike & VGW were working to bring the V22 action to market. I've always thought that one of the main reasons Mike designed the conversion was to get as many of his V22 magazines out there & into the hands of a good number of shooters to 'proof' them and provide him with a lot of feedback whilst he was working on the V22 action. And no doubt, when guys got their relatively inexpensive CMP 40X/XB actions converted and were able to reap the advantages of having a .22RF repeater that was nearly identical in weight & proportions to their M700 CF rifles, it was a game changer, whether they wanted an accurate RF trainer for their CF comp rifles, or for all the .22RF competition games like NRL22 & 22RF PRS that were just becoming popular. I've always thought that his marketing strategy was genius - making the repeater conversion available to take advantage of the thousands of CMP 40X/XB rifles out there, and at the same time, creating enough demand for the V22 action so that when they were released, the demand was already there.

I'd bought several of the 40X/XB rifles from the CMP years before the V22 or even its concept had come on the scene, and had come to appreciate what an accurate rifle they were. But the XB heavy bbl model had a truck axle bbl that made it quite a bit heavier than comparable smallbore rifles like the Winchester 52 C&D models that the CMP was also selling, and the European smallbore rifles like the Anschutz 54 & Walther 500 series. The 40X's feeding tray wasn't as easy to work with while slung-up in prone as were the 52Ds or the 54s or 500s. I could more-or-less just toss a round into the action of my Anschutz 1611, while the Remington rifles were a good deal clumsier to feed while in prone. When Vudoo came out with the V22S single shot, they'd made it at least as easy to single load as the M54. Still, I find myself wishing that I'd kept one of the nicer CMP 40XBs in its original smallbore target configuration. Instead, I let a friend have one of my XBs to get his kids into shooting them with the Redfield irons, and sent both the others off to Jelrod for the repeater conversions. They were the pinnacle of Remington's smallbore rifles - though I'm sure that there are plenty of Rem 37 owners out there that will argue that point. I'm just grateful that the CMP made as many of these rifles & all the other former ROTC smallbore rifles they sold over the years available at affordable prices.
I remember lust after those repeater conversations. I wanted them so bad, but I was just so poor at the time. And later when I found the bucks, I was too impatient and just ordered an Anschutz 54:18.
 
While it's true that Mike Bush designed the repeater conversion for the 40X/XB and the V22 repeater action, to the best of my knowledge, Vudoo Gun Works never offered a repeater conversion for the Remington actions. Mike put the CAD/CAM drawings out there for the conversion to several gunsmiths, but - again, to the best of my knowledge - Jonathan Elrod was pretty much the one guy who specialized in doing the conversions while Mike & VGW were working to bring the V22 action to market. I've always thought that one of the main reasons Mike designed the conversion was to get as many of his V22 magazines out there & into the hands of a good number of shooters to 'proof' them and provide him with a lot of feedback whilst he was working on the V22 action. And no doubt, when guys got their relatively inexpensive CMP 40X/XB actions converted and were able to reap the advantages of having a .22RF repeater that was nearly identical in weight & proportions to their M700 CF rifles, it was a game changer, whether they wanted an accurate RF trainer for their CF comp rifles, or for all the .22RF competition games like NRL22 & 22RF PRS that were just becoming popular. I've always thought that his marketing strategy was genius - making the repeater conversion available to take advantage of the thousands of CMP 40X/XB rifles out there, and at the same time, creating enough demand for the V22 action so that when they were released, the demand was already there.
This^^^^, is all true. Except for the genius part....that's far from true.

MB
 
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