CZ Scorpion owner with brace charged for illegal SBR…
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Nvm, this is old crap. He was charged in 2023 and is slowly having charges dropped 2 years later. Still ridiculous.
Jeez, 1 firearm and he caught a rifle charge and a pistol charge, fuckin feds.
I don’t know much about this case but after a quick read, it seems he was a J6er carrying this thing in a backpack in DC. So he got hit number one with it supposedly not registered at all, then the SBR crap and then the pistol crap because technically he was carrying a pistol without a ccw license. Interesting how it’s both an SBR and a pistol via their own terms. It can’t be both.
1. District of Columbia.
2. Weapons charges are almost always add on charges to something else.
Carrying an unregistered, brace-equipped pistol, in DC, on Jan 6, is the definition of Fuck around and Find out. It may not be right, but it is.
“They don’t think [DC] be like it is, but it do.”
2. Weapons charges are almost always add on charges to something else.
Carrying an unregistered, brace-equipped pistol, in DC, on Jan 6, is the definition of Fuck around and Find out. It may not be right, but it is.
“They don’t think [DC] be like it is, but it do.”
DC's carrying a pistol w/o a license (CPWL) charge is just that, you've got a pistol on you and you ain't got a carry permit. The physical possession of that pistol would then carry separate charges (unregistered firearm (UF) and carrying a dangerous weapon (CDW)) if the gun itself isn't registered, or a singular charge of CDW if it is registered.
In this case, and in lieu of the UF/CDW, Dipshit ('cause this all stems from the defendant live-streaming himself walking around near Obama's house in NW, making threats to persons and property) picked up the NFA violation because even though the ATF final rule on braces was stayed, ATF still considers non-NFA registered braced pistols as unregistered SBRs, and US Attorney's Office is (apparently) deferring to ATF's authority.
In this case, and in lieu of the UF/CDW, Dipshit ('cause this all stems from the defendant live-streaming himself walking around near Obama's house in NW, making threats to persons and property) picked up the NFA violation because even though the ATF final rule on braces was stayed, ATF still considers non-NFA registered braced pistols as unregistered SBRs, and US Attorney's Office is (apparently) deferring to ATF's authority.
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Yeah, I'm not saying he wasn't an idiot, just trying to wrap my head around them calling it a sbr for 1 charge and then 35 words later call it a pistol for 2nd charge.
The "rifle" is a braced CZ Scorpion Gen1.
The pistol is an M&P Compact with one of those pocketclip backplates with Old Testament engravings.
Hard to wrap your head around indeed... because it is fake.
TRUE . . . but . . .
(1) Pam Bondi has not changed positions from the Biden Administration on this issue, and it is going to trial soon. So the Biden Administration position is currently the Trump Administration position.
(2) In the Fifth Circuit, on the braced pistol case, which the government (Biden admin) appealed after it lost, she asked for time. The Fifth Circuit gave her until today. No change of position filed (yet). So the Biden Administration position is currently the Trump Administration position.
(3) The NRA is reporting that as recently as a month ago the ATF is telling questioners that a CZ pistol with a brace requires registration as an SBR under the NFA statute (not the rule, LOL). So, again, the Biden Administration position is currently the Trump Administration position, or, in this case, the Trump administration appears to be going even further, since the Biden Administration at least left room for argument that some braced pistols were not SBRs. The NRA reports that the Trump Administration later walked it back a bit to be more in line with the Biden Administration position.
NRA-ILA | NFA Prosecution Shows ATF Still Determined to Imprison Americans for Braced Pistols
Documents filed in an ongoing prosecution for illegal possession of a short-barreled rifle are raising new concerns about ATF’s enforcement policy concerning pistols with attached stabilizing braces.
www.nraila.org
This crap is ridiculous. So convoluted. No wonder people are giving up hope on law and order.
It is not convoluted. As of today, April 15, 2025 the Trump Administration position is that braced pistols require registration as an NFA item, an SBR. That is pretty straightforward. Indeed, nothing has changed since the Biden Administration.
The only thing convoluted are folks thinking just because we elected Y instead of X that this would change. It didn't.
Maybe it will (fingers crossed), but nothing so far.
The only thing convoluted are folks thinking just because we elected Y instead of X that this would change. It didn't.
Maybe it will (fingers crossed), but nothing so far.
It’s very convoluted because they can’t make a freaking solid decision on it. Sometimes it’s this way and sometimes it’s not. The last I remember reading in Feb/March of this year, the NRA, GOA and others all stated that the brace crap was basically in play again and that they were legal. Now all of a sudden they arent again. So, it seems to me like people are making crap up when and when they don’t want certain things to apply and that’s not the way the law should work and partially the reason people are fed up with this crap. Make a decision one way or the other and stick to it. Otherwise, nobody knows what the hell to do.
