INPUT- Fierce vs Horizon

357magag · Monday at 9:40 PM

Looking for info, advice, and real life experiences.
Factory or readily available semi-custom

Debating between Fierce or Horizon
In 22CM with barrel length 16.5", 18" or 20".
If you know of semi-custom or custom but dont know of any available

*Not wanting advice on caliber or barrel length.

Thanks in advance for your help

YBPS · Monday at 9:48 PM

I wouldn’t shoot a fierce if they paid me. Those guys are d bags.

Chickentoast · Monday at 10:02 PM

Buy some legos and put something better and cheaper together yourself.

357magag · Tuesday at 10:53 AM

Chickentoast said:
Buy some legos and put something better and cheaper together yourself.

Lol.....yeah thats an option

DemonicLemming · Tuesday at 11:14 AM

Fierce, the company that ended up in a lawsuit with a dude because the rifle he bought had a smoothbore barrel?

357magag · Tuesday at 2:24 PM

DemonicLemming said:
Fierce, the company that ended up in a lawsuit with a dude because the rifle he bought had a smoothbore barrel?

That could have been solved alot quicker and cheaper with good CS.

357magag · Tuesday at 2:24 PM

357magag said:
That could have been solved alot quicker and cheaper with good CS.

Horizon it is then. Since I am not going to build or commission a build.

Caba · Tuesday at 2:45 PM

DemonicLemming said:
Fierce, the company that ended up in a lawsuit with a dude because the rifle he bought had a smoothbore barrel?

Rifling is an extra charge.

oldrifleman · Tuesday at 6:50 PM

Wondered why I had never heard of either one

357magag · Friday at 12:04 AM

oldrifleman said:
Wondered why I had never heard of either one

Probably because neither company run ads in American Trapper magazine.

wvfarrier · Friday at 6:42 AM

My son bought a Horizen of GB and it came with a 3 days Safari hunt. He likes the rifle and it is very accurate (300 prc).

IIRC they use Stiller actions

Emerson0311 · Friday at 8:52 AM

Apparently fierce is now antler arms again.

tacoman69 · Friday at 12:29 PM

Google fierce firearms disaster for a good laugh.

Mulepackhunter · Friday at 5:24 PM

Honest question I think I worded wrong or it was taken wrongelsewhere , What would keep a buyer from building a rifle themselves and having a smith fit the barrel maybe bed the action vs buying factory/semi custom high end rifle? Is it lead time? MPA is long so cant be that. Seems like with some of the new companies making nice comp or hunting rifles alot of shooters are going that route?
I like the option of getting each component exactly how I want it and not being constrained to stock options.
Just currious

M4guru · Friday at 5:50 PM

It's never been easier to just screw one together. That's all most of the semi custom guys do.

You don't need a smith for anything if you pick compatible parts.

Buy a stock with an aluminum bedding block, trigger, modern action and prefit barrel. Maybe bottom metal depending on the stock. Screw them together to spec and off you go.

357magag · 2025-04-26T14:35:09-0400

M4guru said:
It's never been easier to just screw one together. That's all most of the semi custom guys do.

You don't need a smith for anything if you pick compatible parts.

Buy a stock with an aluminum bedding block, trigger, modern action and prefit barrel. Maybe bottom metal depending on the stock. Screw them together to spec and off you go.

I agree....which one would deprecaite more? OEM Horizon or Total cost rifle components screwed together at home by a guy named Dan.
If decide to sell which one?

oldrifleman · 2025-04-26T14:58:21-0400

Since I have never heard of a Horizon rifle, and Lilly heard of the custom parts, probably the parts, I can build off what is known.

davsco · 2025-04-26T15:18:47-0400

Mulepackhunter said:
What would keep a buyer from building a rifle themselves and having a smith fit the barrel maybe bed the action vs buying factory/semi custom high end rifle?

i've done four tikka's this way for hunting. either bought a separate tikka action, or bought a tikka rifle and harvested the action. proof carbon prefit barrels in 6.5cm and prc, 7prc (carbon six barrel) and 300wsm. pure precision altitude stocks. couple of specific tools such as action wrench and torque wrench. no bedding or even any sort of fitting or tweaking needed.

plan b is contact Altus (and perhaps others) and pick out components (action, barrel, stock, trigger, etc). pretty sure they'll assemble/fit/torque them all for you for no add'l charge. they did this for me with a zermatt tl3, proof carbon barrel, triggertech trigger, and krg bravo chassis/stock and did same for my bil a few times with varying components.

Mulepackhunter · 2025-04-26T16:00:27-0400

I am close to that idea but i like the idea of having a smith check tolerance on purchased items and spin the barrel. Just me but i know what production is and i want to know where everything is before i waste my time using it.

M4guru · 2025-04-26T23:18:27-0400

357magag said:
I agree....which one would deprecaite more? OEM Horizon or Total cost rifle components screwed together at home by a guy named Dan.
If decide to sell which one?

The one you can part out or reconfigure will probably do better. Look in the PX here...people do just fine.

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