Pope Death Watch... WITH A PRIZE!!! Quart of Maple Syrup to the winner!

I wander what they would call us, if we formed our own religion and carved out an area within the US for our own little country. At what point do you reach status where if you have members who sexually exploit kids, you just move them to a different house of worship?

It should work out if we wear red and white robes with gold head dressings, right? I wonder how long it would take to build our castle and generate a net worth in the billions?
 
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Flags at half mast for a dead pope? Thats dumb.

Not if the last administration did everything they could to fuck over the Catholic Church and you were trying to set up an environment where you can bring in more catholic votes.

It’s a huge voting block and one that consistently votes wrong. Though that is changing. And we are hopeful of bringing in a conservative pope. After the last two communists. .

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Not if the last administration did everything they could to fuck over the Catholic Church and you were trying to set up an environment where you can bring in more catholic votes.

It’s a huge voting block and one that consistently votes wrong. Though that is changing. And we are hopeful of bringing in a conservative pope. After the last two communists. .

Sirhr

It's hopeless.
Most Catholics, like most Jews, tend to all vote solidly for whatever the extreme left / liberal wing is, regardless of the consequences.
Sure there are some outliers, but as a whole you'll see very little except hard pushing for extreme leftwing, communist and destructive ideology from both camps when it comes to politics and voting.

The folks from Latin America are the new "amish" they will be voting for whoever promises to steal from the hard working pale faces and give it to them for free, in the biggest amounts.
 
It's hopeless.
Most Catholics, like most Jews, tend to all vote solidly for whatever the extreme left / liberal wing is, regardless of the consequences.
Sure there are some outliers, but as a whole you'll see very little except hard pushing for extreme leftwing, communist and destructive ideology from both camps when it comes to politics and voting.

The folks from Latin America are the new "amish" they will be voting for whoever promises to steal from the hard working pale faces and give it to them for free, in the biggest amounts.

But it only takes a few percent of them to swing things.

The number of Amish and Beaner’s who voted for Trump was huge. Even though it’s only a small percentage, it changes the dynamic massively.

That said, I don’t condone flying flags at half mast for a religious leader. But I can’t understand it in the current environment. Where the presidency is trying to build back trust among the religious who have been persecuted for the last 16 years since Obama and his canon communist bullshit Took over.
 
So much Catholic dogma has no roots in the Bible.

Jesus despised the hierarchy.




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I disagree. Jesus taught to respect hierarchy as it is God's will to appoint leaders and kings over you (also his will to overthrow and end them). Who he despised were any who claimed righteousness or holiness, and used that falseness to claim power.

Paul has quite a bit to say about Christians criticizing other Christians and judging their practices and/or their souls. All Catholic Dogma is rooted in the Bible. It's just that huge parts of it have been erected over time by the church based on small phrases that are mis/over interpreted, IMHO. Most of the Catholic practices that we/I don't believe in are there for the purpose of focusing the congregant on Jesus. There is also a good reason that many Christians avoid these wrote practices, because they can become so routine that instead of focusing on Jesus the ritual itself becomes the point. They are a double edged sword, but the longevity of the Catholic Church would suggest that they are effective if not strictly biblical. The funniest one is the whole fish on Friday thing, because Paul actually uses that as an example of how Christians are specifically not to criticize each other's differing practices. So while I am not a Catholic I have deep respect for their church, and the faith in Jesus of Catholics. Yea, they do a lot of things I don't agree with, but saying they are not Christians is simply ignorance of what it means to be a Christian, and you could just as easily cast the same stones at half the people sitting in the pews in your own church... so just don't. You are commanded not to by Jesus Christ.

Catholics are fully Christian. Anyone who says they aren't is the real blasphemer.
This guy was pretty smart and knew the Bible. Don't listen to me, listen to him:
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Funny story.
If you search to find who started the catholic church they claim Jesus did.
I find that very funny and tragic.

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The Catholic Church Started almost 100 years later.. They changed the baptism @70AD .. From total submersion to sprinkling and changed from the Name of JESUS to Father Son and Holyghost or Spirit. Those are title.. I am sure everyone here is a father or brother Sister or a Dad but those are not names... Jesus!

THe name is important. Ask anyone with the last name Colt..
 
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Well, if you are a protestant of European descent you came out of the Catholic Church one way or another, same thing with the Eastern Orthodox Churches (not considered protestants) and their history is your history up until whatever schism be it 1054 or 16th century. Maybe if you're an Ethiopian or Copt your faith was never a part of the Catholic Church, but just about everyone else in Christendom was.

BranchPrimary Leadership StructureScripture and TraditionSacramentsUnique Practices and Beliefs
Roman Catholic ChurchCentralized under the Pope as the Bishop of Rome.Scripture and Tradition are co-equal sources of authority.Seven sacraments: Baptism, Eucharist, Confirmation, Reconciliation, Anointing of the Sick, Matrimony, Holy OrdersVeneration of saints and Mary;
emphasis on Tradition and Papal authority.
Eastern Orthodox ChurchDecentralized; autocephalous churches led by patriarchs.Scripture and Tradition are co-equalSeven sacraments, similar to Catholicism.Use of icons; theosis (union with God); emphasis on mysticism
ProtestantismGenerally decentralized, with leadership varying by denomination.Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone) as the highest authorityTwo sacraments (Eucharist and Baptism) in most traditions, though views vary.Emphasis on personal faith and relationship with God; the priesthood of all believers; and diverse worship styles.
Oriental OrthodoxyDecentralized; autocephalous churches led by patriarchs.Scripture and Tradition are authoritative, with a unique miaphysite Christology.Seven sacramentsEmphasis on miaphysite theology; strong sense of communal identity.
Assyrian Church of the EastLed by a Catholicos — Patriarch with regional bishopsScripture is central but with emphasis on apostolic tradition.Seven sacraments with a unique Eucharistic liturgy (Holy Qurbana)Different Christology and less emphasis on the importance of icons in liturgy.

Go back to Billy Grham's explanation as to who IS and ISN'T a "Christian". There are main elements, and then a ton of window dressing. The window dressing doesn't (shouldn't according to the Bible) matter. That is not to say that bloody wars have been fought over window dressing, or that Churches are man made things, because they are and we bring all our sinful politics into them, and we shouldn't.
 
Well, if you are a protestant of European descent you came out of the Catholic Church one way or another, same thing with the Eastern Orthodox Churches (not considered protestants) and their history is your history up until whatever schism be it 1054 or 16th century. Maybe if you're an Ethiopian or Copt your faith was never a part of the Catholic Church, but just about everyone else in Christendom was.

BranchPrimary Leadership StructureScripture and TraditionSacramentsUnique Practices and Beliefs
Roman Catholic ChurchCentralized under the Pope as the Bishop of Rome.Scripture and Tradition are co-equal sources of authority.Seven sacraments: Baptism, Eucharist, Confirmation, Reconciliation, Anointing of the Sick, Matrimony, Holy OrdersVeneration of saints and Mary;
emphasis on Tradition and Papal authority.
Eastern Orthodox ChurchDecentralized; autocephalous churches led by patriarchs.Scripture and Tradition are co-equalSeven sacraments, similar to Catholicism.Use of icons; theosis (union with God); emphasis on mysticism
ProtestantismGenerally decentralized, with leadership varying by denomination.Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone) as the highest authorityTwo sacraments (Eucharist and Baptism) in most traditions, though views vary.Emphasis on personal faith and relationship with God; the priesthood of all believers; and diverse worship styles.
Oriental OrthodoxyDecentralized; autocephalous churches led by patriarchs.Scripture and Tradition are authoritative, with a unique miaphysite Christology.Seven sacramentsEmphasis on miaphysite theology; strong sense of communal identity.
Assyrian Church of the EastLed by a Catholicos — Patriarch with regional bishopsScripture is central but with emphasis on apostolic tradition.Seven sacraments with a unique Eucharistic liturgy (Holy Qurbana)Different Christology and less emphasis on the importance of icons in liturgy.

Go back to Billy Grham's explanation as to who IS and ISN'T a "Christian". There are main elements, and then a ton of window dressing. The window dressing doesn't (shouldn't according to the Bible) matter. That is not to say that bloody wars have been fought over window dressing, or that Churches are man made things, because they are and we bring all our sinful politics into them, and we shouldn't.

Some folks that would possibly be labeled under the broad term "protestant" (which usually means like anything not Roman Catholic Church), might not have any specific connection roots with any of the stuff from the Roman Catholic Church. Both in modern Churches and in secret churches over the past 1600 years.

Part of the reason for most all the other ones of branching off from the Catholics, is pretty much right after the Emperor of Rome finished working with the "Christian Leaders" to co-opt Christianity and revise it to be the new state religion that was pretty comfortable for former pagan Greeks and Romans and ensured state power and central state control, they essentially went on a 50 year + campaign of trying to murder, slaughter, genocide and wipe out any true Christians who didn't bow the knee to the new Church of Rome. They would have made the Muslims proud of their "believe in our way and our rule or die" had the Muslims been around back then. The State and the State Church working hand in hand to slaughter all who wouldn't accept "The official way things were going to be"

The Roman Catholic Church, which was the fusion of political power with religious backing, then spent the better part of the next 1000 years being pretty much full on Muslim style and murdering, torturing, slaughtering, and genociding anyone who ever looked at the scriptures for themselves or tried to go back to the truths of the actual early Church of Jesus Christ and His apostles.
So the small bands of true believers that weren't taken in by the great apostasy of the Roman Church, were either very far away or had to keep very secret.

(In fairness the various "protestants" of the reformation often did the exact same thing, became the state Church and went about persecuting and slaughtering folks).

Most folks today don't really appreciate the freedom of Religion we enjoy today, where you can believe in God as you wish (or not) and expect to be safe, secure in your rights and not persecuted for your beliefs.
It's actually unique in the history of the world and doesn't even exist in some countries this day.
Back in the early 1800s the local "established" religions were busy literally murdering, slaughtering and trying to genocide Christians with the Restored Gospel. They even had the local and sometimes State governments backing them while the Federal government was too weak to stop it.
Nowadays everybody in this country, (including those who don't believe in god or believe in Satan) enjoys being able to believe as they wish.

BUT it might not always be that way, freedom comes and goes as the free folks age and generations become complacent.

Enjoy freedom and freedom of religion while you have it now.

The times may come in either your lifetime or that of your grandchildren, where people may once again be persecuted for their beliefs (just as happens right now around the world including in our "frenimies" countries)...
 
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The Catholic Church Started almost 100 years later.. They changed the baptism @70AD .. From total submersion to sprinkling and changed from the Name of JESUS to Father Son and Holyghost or Spirit. Those are title.. I am sure everyone here is a father or brother Sister or a Dad but those are not names... Jesus!

THe name is important. Ask anyone with the last name Colt..
And therefore, every church or religion that believes in the trinity and/or sprinkling baptism in the titles, is directly or indirectly a child of the catholic church. Regardless what name is over the door.
 
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AS stated, except for maybe the Copts and some Levant/African churches that have been rolling since before the Romans adopted Christianity.

I don't get why this is a problem for some people.

My ancestors were seaborn rapists, thieves, and murderers.
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I couldn't be more proud!

THEY'RE STILL SINGING ABOUT IT!!!!






History happened, and that's that.
Ezekiel 18:20 “The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son.” The whole leftist idea of racial or cultural guilt is E-V-I-L. You are only responsible for what you do, and how you live your life.