Well this is reassuring.

nagantguy · Jul 29, 2021

Dashcam video shows Detroit police officers flee from shooting happening in front of them

FOX 2 spoke with a number of officers about what happened and it is not sitting well with them. The two officers in question are off the street. The men involved in that shooting are still at large. All of it was captured on police dashcam.

www.fox2detroit.com

So I get being scared and I get being out gunned - what I don’t get is collecting the fat check/pension for work you can’t or won’t do.
glad to know my home state has affirmative action hiring policies to get under contract warriors such as these! Surely they won’t get caught flat footed when the second rounds of riots break out nation wide over what ever cartoon or statue or dead drug addict criminal sets off the mob. Didn’t even make a report or give chase - splendidly done!

GordonFreeman · Jul 29, 2021

I can’t blame them.

Have to imagine this is how UN forces feel trying to police Somalia or Nigeria

edit: your safety is your own responsibility

theLBC · Jul 29, 2021

GordonFreeman said:
I can’t blame them.

Have to imagine this is how UN forces feel trying to police Somalia or Nigeria

edit: your safety is your own responsibility

lol, the UN forces are too busy sex trafficking women and children to worry about shit like that.

Hobo Hilton · Jul 29, 2021

Detroit.........
Welcome to America where the government pays you to not work.
Down the rabbit hole we go.

theLBC · Jul 29, 2021

Hobo Hilton said:
Detroit.........
Welcome to America where the government pays you to not work.
Down the rabbit hole we go.

well it was a female officer...

women and children first, right?

RUTGERS95 · Jul 29, 2021

lol waiting for the excuses

Bradu · Jul 29, 2021

nagantguy said:
Dashcam video shows Detroit police officers flee from shooting happening in front of them

FOX 2 spoke with a number of officers about what happened and it is not sitting well with them. The two officers in question are off the street. The men involved in that shooting are still at large. All of it was captured on police dashcam.

www.fox2detroit.com

So I get being scared and I get being out gunned - what I don’t get is collecting the fat check/pension for work you can’t or won’t do.
glad to know my home state has affirmative action hiring policies to get under contract warriors such as these! Surely they won’t get caught flat footed when the second rounds of riots break out nation wide over what ever cartoon or statue or dead drug addict criminal sets off the mob. Didn’t even make a report or give chase - splendidly done!

I am not defending the officers but people collect a fat check/pension for work they can’t or won’t do every week regardless of the type of career. I think it‘s safe to say everyone knows people like that. If you don’t, you are probably that guy...

RUTGERS95 · Jul 29, 2021

Bradu said:
I am not defending the officers but people collect a fat check/pension for work they can’t or won’t do every week regardless of the type of career. I think it‘s safe to say everyone knows people like that. If you don’t, you are probably that guy...

not like them they don't? 1 of 3 professions that collects before retirement age and that needs to stop. One other is politicians, take that for what it's worth.

theLBC · Jul 29, 2021

Bradu said:
I am not defending the officers but people collect a fat check/pension for work they can’t or won’t do every week regardless of the type of career. I think it‘s safe to say everyone knows people like that. If you don’t, you are probably that guy...

the NYC teacher's union has (at last count) over 7000 teachers on the payroll doing nothing because they cannot be fired (tenure) and they cannot be allowed near children.

BullGear · Jul 29, 2021

If you have the uniform on, you should stay and fight. However, wearing the uniform is getting more and more difficult these days...

BuildingConceptsllc · Jul 29, 2021

I just erased what I typed out .... I'm sure y'all can imagine what it consisted of anyway...

BullGear · Jul 29, 2021

theLBC said:
the NYC teacher's union has (at last count) over 7000 teachers on the payroll doing nothing because they cannot be fired (tenure) and they cannot be allowed near children.

That's the perfect storm. NYC will never go against the Teacher's Union. Why, I don't know.

Im2bent · Jul 29, 2021

Maybe they didn't want to get fired/sued for being racists.....

nagantguy · Jul 29, 2021

Or maybe it’s a key reason a dying city that’s almost half its population can still lead the nation in violent crime.
we’ve researching this- not our AO we are out in the sticks but DODs former chief is running for governor on a law and order platform, and he will be destroyed though he is a black guy with an R by his name it can’t save him from corruption and incompetence.
One gem- after a two year investigation in which 13 of the 20 DPD drug strike team was caught stealing planting and destroying evidence, taking protection money from drug dealers and prostitution rings, stealing money from dealers and from evidence- on down the list- they were allowed to quit or resign, that sure sounds like law and order!

DocRDS · Jul 29, 2021

Warren v. District of Columbia

If you are not familiar with it, become familiar with it.
TLDR: Police have no duty to protect you.

nagantguy · Jul 29, 2021

The other great one; anyone remember Detroit PDs 11,000 rape kits abandoned in a storage unit- it’s wasn’t the the fault of the chief now running for office he was brought in to clean it up- and with witnesses statements DNA samples , video ect in a city with over 800 serial rapists , some already serving time in prison with the state police and fbi help he got a conviction rate of just over 1%. In over 11000 cases he got 194 convictions, so bad that in 2019 the department just closed the files. Fucking outstanding!

theLBC · Jul 29, 2021

Im2bent said:
Maybe they didn't want to get fired/sued for being racists.....

i am kind of thinking that isn't going to be an issue here, although that is a wild guess.

nagantguy · Jul 29, 2021

DocRDS said:
Warren v. District of Columbia

If you are not familiar with it, become familiar with it.
TLDR: Police have no duty to protect you.

Well aware of the SCOTUS ruling - it gives no absolution to witnessing murder and doing nothing. It was to late for protection how about policing????
hows that boot polish taste?

DocRDS · Jul 29, 2021

Actually there is a case where gent violated a restraining order and was thus subject to arrest, but was it was ruled (Scalia author no less), that police can be 'subjective' even when required to make an arrest by a court order.

It was in Colorado and if memory serves 2005.

Now before you paint with that broad brush like our old friend wade--remember, you get what you pay for, and right now, you couldn't pay me enough to be a police officer. Everyone and their sister (metaphorically) gunning for them. Sure they breakup the shooting, the get charged with excessive violence or violating civil rights...

I'm not saying they are right, I'm just sayin I understand...

918v · Jul 29, 2021

DocRDS said:
Warren v. District of Columbia

If you are not familiar with it, become familiar with it.
TLDR: Police have no duty to protect you.

But they don’t have the right to keep their jobs either.

nagantguy · Jul 30, 2021

DocRDS said:
Actually there is a case where gent violated a restraining order and was thus subject to arrest, but was it was ruled (Scalia author no less), that police can be 'subjective' even when required to make an arrest by a court order.

It was in Colorado and if memory serves 2005.

Now before you paint with that broad brush like our old friend wade--remember, you get what you pay for, and right now, you couldn't pay me enough to be a police officer. Everyone and their sister (metaphorically) gunning for them. Sure they breakup the shooting, the get charged with excessive violence or violating civil rights...

I'm not saying they are right, I'm just sayin I understand...

Second helping , must be good stuff.
So some judge somewhere said “subjective” and that translates to - witness murder on the job and do t even make a fucking radio call”? Yep I see your point - holy shit are we fucked .

Maggot · Jul 30, 2021

nagantguy said:
Or maybe it’s a key reason a dying city that’s almost half its population can still lead the nation in violent crime.
we’ve researching this- not our AO we are out in the sticks but DODs former chief is running for governor on a law and order platform, and he will be destroyed though he is a black guy with an R by his name it can’t save him from corruption and incompetence.
One gem- after a two year investigation in which 13 of the 20 DPD drug strike team was caught stealing planting and destroying evidence, taking protection money from drug dealers and prostitution rings, stealing money from dealers and from evidence- on down the list- they were allowed to quit or resign, that sure sounds like law and order!

A friend from Philadelphia says it about the same.

hankpac · Jul 30, 2021

BullGear said:
That's the perfect storm. NYC will never go against the Teacher's Union. Why, I don't know.

Because the Teacher's Union is a huge bloc of Marxist/Dem votes.

supercorndogs · Jul 30, 2021

Bradu said:
I am not defending the officers but people collect a fat check/pension for work they can’t or won’t do every week regardless of the type of career. I think it‘s safe to say everyone knows people like that. If you don’t, you are probably that guy...

I think that kind of worker keeping their job long is almost exclusive to government work.

If I was a cop, and needed to shoot someone, and couldn't tell if they were white, I would run too.

accurate obsession · Jul 30, 2021

It's a sad place we're at right now for sure, but I really don't blame them. Especially if the cop-cops in the car were white. They get out and attempt to quell the situation, cop has to kill little Antoine, cue the CNN trucks, BLM has a riot for free stuff (mostly peaceful protest) and the lawyer's on speed dial. Because you know Antione didduenuffin, he was going to the gas station for some skittles and was due to start college in a month. Oh, I'm suing the city for 10 million and want those cops in prison.
I do not envy the position LE is in right now.

Srgt. Hulka · Jul 30, 2021

I haven't read this whole thread, so I don't know the outcome, or everybody's thoughts, on this, but I'd be willing to bet that the officers were white, and the shooters were black. If the officers would have responded, shooting and/or killing the shooters, they would have been prosecuted to the full extent of the made-up laws of Detroit, and spent the rest of their lives in jail. So, it's either lifetime in jail, of go home at night to their spouse and kids. I know which one I'd choose. Let the gang-bangers kill each other and I'm going home to my family. It's frikkin Detroit.

Edit: Besides, look at al the looting and burning they prevented by NOT killing the black suspects.

On another note, in the video, it looks like the officer was trying to run the shooter off the road. The shooter probably turned the gun towards the officers, so the officers sped up to avoid being killed.

Again, I haven't read this whole thread, so this is all speculation and first impressions.

sled_mack · Jul 31, 2021

supercorndogs said:
I think that kind of worker keeping their job long is almost exclusive to government work.

If I was a cop, and needed to shoot someone, and couldn't tell if they were white, I would run too.

Exclusive to union work!

Average guy · Jul 31, 2021

One of my coworkers was a damn good cop. Shit like this is why he’s a heavy equipment mechanic now.

oneshot86 · Aug 1, 2021

Average guy said:
One of my coworkers was a damn good cop. Shit like this is why he’s a heavy equipment mechanic now.

Good for him, he's probably now making some decent coin

Not a Clue · Aug 1, 2021

No way for them to win, is it? If they run, they are cowards getting a free check. If they try and stop it, they are locked up and tried for murder because the gunman was clearly an outstanding citizen that just loved everyone and everyone loved him.

Not too many of us get put in positions where we can't win, no matter what we do, every day.

The crime here is what we've done to the Police to put them in this state of affairs.

Va_Gentleman · Aug 1, 2021

I think there is more to this before it happened. Who does a drive-by in front of a Patrol Car?

Clearly the perps were not concerned with the Patrol Car's occupants chasing, shooting or taking any action that would result in arrest.

Why they felt that way is what has my interest; (1) Either the cops were in on it or aware of it, or (2) They knew the cops in the car would run and be scared.

Interesting enough is that the Patrol Car pulls out and outruns the perps! Thus, there is no shot of the license plate.... hmmmmmmmm.

Docsherm · Aug 1, 2021

Typical for and third world country....... and a Democrats' Socialist Distopia

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