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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    I think that 1 extra step (maybe .303) should do it. I don't mind the extra effort. My rifle won't be here for 10 months. I just hate experimenting with such expensive brass. Any thoughts on the distance from the end of the sizing to the neck/shoulder junction?
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    I just tried sizing in one step with the .295 bushing and the button in. There is only a slight wrinkle at the mouth now. How close to the shoulder/neck junction should the bushing size? It looks like my bushing stops about 1/32" away. Sizing .308 with bushings, I recall that the bushing gets...
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    Do you neck down with the expander button installed in the FL sizing die or removed? I did it w/o the button. Maybe that's the problem?
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    I had wondered about that, always reading that resizing by more than .005" should be done in more than 1 step. Just curious what bushings others are using to go from 7mm to 6.5. It looks like it needs 4 bushings but I'm wondering if the heavier steps should occur in the beginning or the end of...
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    Necking down to .295. Just started necking down my 7mm SAUM brass with a .295 bushing and the mouth of neck is flared (see photo). Flared end of neck has an OD of .294" Rest of neck has an OD of .289" Also, the reduced part stops short of the neck-shoulder junction. I'm using a Co-Ax press...
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    SPAK-Thanks for the reply.
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    I see your point but am not clear how Pat chose .295 as the bushing. Can you calculate it or is it trial & error? By calculating I get the following: The .312” od of a 7mm saum case gets necked down to .295” The neck thickness of a 7mm saum case is about .0155" .295” - .031”= .264” giving 0...
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    I don't have all of my reloading supplies for the 6.5 SAUM yet so I haven't been able to experiment. If I'm following you, would you get 2 different neck tensions if you followed the 2 below procedures? Neck down w/ .295 & .291 Expand w/ .264 Turn to .015" vs Neck down w/ .295 Expand w/ .264...
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    In Pat's 1st post, he says to neck down with a .295 but doesn't mention the .291 until this line: "After the initial firing I use the .291 bushing in the sizing process." Maybe he means that you neck down in 2 steps: .295 & .291. That's how I would do it.
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    Pat, I see that you recommend using the .291" bushing after the first firing, not on unfired brass. The way I calculate it, .295" minus .030"(.015" neck x2) = .265" inside neck diameter. That won't hold a .264" bullet. What am I not getting? Thanks, Bill
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    Thanks for the reply. I would definitely work up even if I was shooting for the "magic load". Any idea what the load differential is between Remington and Nosler brass?
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    Care And Feeding Of A GAP 6.5 SAUM.....

    Sorry for starting this discussion over again. I just ordered a GAP 6.5 SAUM, 26" barrel w/ 8.7" twist & .296" neck. I have read every thread that I could find about load development and am still stumped for a load range with Nosler brass. I'll be using Berger 130 & 140 VLD's and Hybrids. I'd...