“I cant feel my leg”

[Makinchips208]

well, tourniquets tend to do that.

11:45 for the quote.

 

[XLR308]

I didn't catch the part that they were called in for.
Domestic issue maybe ?

 

[Mike Casselton]

Nice trigger discipline there Deputy Smiff.

 

[Makinchips208]

@XLR308 I believe the description says it started with a domestic where the shooter threatened to shoot an elderly female.

 

[ma smith]

not really fair to judge in this situation, but it seemed noticeable on video
that both are seeming to struggle with the physical grip on the weapons?

This just low blood pressure or shock in this setting etc...?

Nice trigger discipline there Deputy Smiff.

Smith...

Walker...

 

[Mike Casselton]

Piss poor training

 

[Makinchips208]

Deputy Smith

 

[Im2bent]

Piss poor training

You can't be trigger happy without keeping your finger on the trigger. How else can you swiss cheese entire neighborhoods, hit bystanders, and fellow leos (with impunity)?

 

[XLR308]

Piss poor training

Stress, adrenaline, poor training and being met with unexpected force can do some funky things to the thought process.

 

[748rpilot]

"And I said, 'Bubba, they ain't there!'. I look down and them little bloody nubs was kickin' real fast like this here! I said, 'Bubba it's 30 miles to the nearest town. 'less you can flip upside down and walk on your hands, you aint gon' make it!'"

--Major Benson Winifred Payne

 

[Tokay444]

If you draw fire towards my house, you’re not gonna be able to cower in my driveway.

 

[M4orturnate]

That rifle in the pic tells me all I need to know. Big brake to concuss your partner, cheap light, shitty for grip, possibly cheap red dot( can't tell for sure). Trust the professionals boys

 

[XLR308]

That rifle in the pic tells me all I need to know. Big brake to concuss your partner, cheap light, shitty for grip, possibly cheap red dot( can't tell for sure). Trust the professionals boys

Looks like it has a pistol brace stock on it as well. OAF

 

[M4orturnate]

Looks like it has a pistol brace stock on it as well. OAF

High speed AF

 

[Im2bent]

You fucking poors that there is the super tactical combo fore grip/bipod. Thats right see the 2 little feet peeking out the bottom? Those are the feet on 2 little legs that pop out.

 

[Kadams1563]

Looks like it has a pistol brace stock on it as well. OAF

For real wtf.

 

[Doc68]

well, tourniquets tend to do that.

11:45 for the quote.

Don't ever put a TQ over a cargo pocket. The contents in pocket WILL shift around and TQ will be ineffective.

Doc

 

[XLR308]

For real wtf.

Obviously an amateur
This guy is getting there but still missing a Mac truck bulldog hood ornament to get to the next level.

 

[TexPatriot]

The shooter was skipping rounds under the police cruiser. If they moved, even straight back from the cruiser, they were still vulnerable to ric's. If they broke and limped down the side of the house they left themselves open.

Shitty situation.

 

[Im2bent]

So at 4:45 he says he need a tourniquet I see no blood. Is it standard practice to throw on a tourniquet for any injury like say a scratch?

 

[Makinchips208]

The shooter was skipping rounds under the police cruiser. If they moved, even straight back from the cruiser, they were still vulnerable to ric's. If they broke and limped down the side of the house they left themselves open.

Shitty situation.

I agree. But you have to ask why they parked in such a stupid spot. In the open, no other cover, no readily available escape route.

It’s like a clinic on how to get yourself ambushed with little odds on survival.

 

[TexPatriot]

I agree. But you have to ask why they parked in such a stupid spot. In the open, no other cover, no readily available escape route.

It’s like a clinic on how to get yourself ambushed with little odds on survival.

I dunno. Maybe because $45K a year doesn't attract the best and brightest?

In their defense, when you roll up on an armed subject in a house, you have only seconds to pick your defensive positions, none of which are ideal.

 

[Makinchips208]

I dunno. Maybe because $45K a year doesn't attract the best and brightest?

In their defense, when you roll up on an armed subject in a house, you have only seconds to pick your defensive positions, none of which are ideal.

True. A time when a grenade launcher would have been helpful.

 

[TexPatriot]

True. A time when a grenade launcher would have been helpful.

Or if vehicles were fitted with Kevlar curtains that could be unsnapped and drop down to cover the space under vehicle.

 

[Doc68]

So at 4:45 he says he need a tourniquet I see no blood. Is it standard practice to throw on a tourniquet for any injury like say a scratch?

No it's def not. I saw a little blood, however I'm sure they are trained to throw TQ on any amount of blood.

Truly you cannot tell sometimes if an artery or large vein was hit, because sometimes the blood doesn't just pour out of a wound.

Doc

 

[232593]

I didn't catch the part that they were called in for.
Domestic issue maybe ?

And did they submit their CONOP slides??

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

I dunno. Maybe because $45K a year doesn't attract the best and brightest?

In their defense, when you roll up on an armed subject in a house, you have only seconds to pick your defensive positions, none of which are ideal.

Average pay for the deputies in Blount county is over $65 K. Which is probably well over the average income for that county.

 

[higginsworksforme]

Nice trigger discipline there Deputy Smiff.

It's only a 9mm. It's not like anybody's gonna die.

 

[Mike Casselton]

It'll blow yer lungs out Jim

 

[Kadams1563]

It'll blow yer lungs out Jim

You beat me to it lol

 

[Fig]

So many mistakes. Not just of training, but of common sense. They're just lucky that guy couldn't shoot and didn't want to kill anyone.

 

[LuckyLuke80]

Nothing like staying on the X and letting the enemy continue to toss lead at you. It appears that TQ training night didn’t happen either. I mean, if you’re going to stand with your right leg well out from behind cover might as well learn the quick way to apply a TQ