Hello everyone,
I am new poster here but a long time lurker so please go easy on me.
Rifle 1: Gift $4,000 I’ve been saving for years for this....and its my dad, he is worth every penny.
Story : My father and brother have long dreamed of going on a big game hunt. He has always put everyones needs ahead of his own. I’m now in my 30s and have a good job to make this reality. Long story short, I’ve booked a hunt for elk next fall, he needs a new rifle as the 243 for hunting deer or 12g shotgun is not adequate for the coming adventure. He has always wanted a 300 win mag. This leaves me in a spot I hate, as 300 win mag kicks like a mule and don’t want him to hate it.
Ive been researching calibers and 30-06 seems plenty capable with tolerable kick, 7mm rem mag steps up the game a bit but that is not what he wants. We are all in excellent shape for our age, my dad is a beast and in top 3% fitness for his age bracket.
Requirements: Must be reliable to a fault, must be accurate, must be easy shooter, stock must be fully adjustable. He wants to learn to shoot long range of which I was looking at classes for this next summer.
The rifle: I was looking at rifles, the AI AXMC is nice but crazy expensive, heavy and push round feed. Tikka is nice but light. Winchester M70 fits the bill nicely but I wouldn’t want to count on it for a shot past 400 yards for accuracy reasons without major upgrades.
Alternatively I was thinking a custom rifle using Mausingfield or Archimedes action for CRF for extra reliability as I have experienced the dreaded stuck case with both my savages which my knife solved shortly but still was not happy and if it happened at a critical point where a second shot was needed, unforgivable.... I will go with a Bartlein barrel or comparable. Trigger I am not sure. Stock I was looking at foundation (also looked at Manners and McMillan but am unsure since I can‘t order full adjustable and I can’t find a way to make it that way) but 2 big issues. First it is not fully adjustable, second that would equal a 10lbs rifle without scope! I was aiming for 10ish lbs with scope but it gets tiring which I can say from experience when the miles are adding up.
Further the recoil issue keeps nipping at the back of my mind and was considering the recoil reduction systems used on shotguns.
All of this is fluid and undecided so please grace me with some knowledge as research only takes me so far.
Rifle 2: <$2000
Story: My new toy xD
I have long loved the old school 30-30 and 30-06. However I was dreaming of the 6.5x55 Swede and 7x57 Mauser. Legendary calibers and commonly used outside the US. I would reload myself so ammo is not a concern.
The rifle: I was thinking of semi custom using a Tikka/Savage/CZ for that action(wish I could just buy a new m70 action without the barrel or stock :drool), put a quality barrel on the end and a new stock, maybe a trigger upgrade. Given that would put me in the $600-$800 range just for an action new unless I can find one used In good shape. Alternatively I was looking at custom actions like defiance and a few others that offer a CRF option I can order. Not really sure where to go with this or what the better route would be. The cartridges are for under 400 yards so I don’t need to get crazy, I rather want CRF but its not easy to get in todays market. Also it would be amazing if I could easily change barrels over to a different caliber. Thoughts? Input?
Rifle 3: <$2000
Story: People get their panties in a wad when I hike/scout in the off season with my hunting rifle as I spend the weekend stomping through bear territory. Game wardens understand once I explain I was scouting for the coming season and don’t want to be caught on the wrong side of something large, fury and muscular’s wayward interest in me. For one I dont think I would do well having an MMA match with a bear in the woods, the weight classes are just so different, plus they cheat and use teeth and claws. Second the bears just don’t understand how important I am(you better be laugh’n, that’s funny I don’t care who ya are.) Also I smell bad and taste funny, also, I cause indigestion and gas. I am not doing anything wrong, just staying active in the woods, observing and learning.
Rifle: Now read first and don’t jump down my throat.... I have a 300BLK which I run 180-220grain rounds. If I ran A frames 200g + IN THEORY it has the sectional density, build and force to punch a grizzly skull at <50 yards. This seems sketchy as hell and I am not a fan. (Now don’t jump me for the comment please, I recognize its shortcomings and agree there are other options that you now get the opportunity to tell me about.) With that, if a queen had the right anatomy she could be king and theories are like farts in the wind.... At any rate, I want something small, compact, reliable, accurate and less than friendly to Mr. Griz or any other unfriendly types (I’ve seen The Gray, it’s unlikely to happen but my imagination still hates me and lone wolves are still an issue although more probable are packs of wild dogs. I was considering a AR 10 in an alternate caliber but there has to be other options. What options are out there? Thoughts? Ideas?
I am new poster here but a long time lurker so please go easy on me.
Rifle 1: Gift $4,000 I’ve been saving for years for this....and its my dad, he is worth every penny.
Story : My father and brother have long dreamed of going on a big game hunt. He has always put everyones needs ahead of his own. I’m now in my 30s and have a good job to make this reality. Long story short, I’ve booked a hunt for elk next fall, he needs a new rifle as the 243 for hunting deer or 12g shotgun is not adequate for the coming adventure. He has always wanted a 300 win mag. This leaves me in a spot I hate, as 300 win mag kicks like a mule and don’t want him to hate it.
Ive been researching calibers and 30-06 seems plenty capable with tolerable kick, 7mm rem mag steps up the game a bit but that is not what he wants. We are all in excellent shape for our age, my dad is a beast and in top 3% fitness for his age bracket.
Requirements: Must be reliable to a fault, must be accurate, must be easy shooter, stock must be fully adjustable. He wants to learn to shoot long range of which I was looking at classes for this next summer.
The rifle: I was looking at rifles, the AI AXMC is nice but crazy expensive, heavy and push round feed. Tikka is nice but light. Winchester M70 fits the bill nicely but I wouldn’t want to count on it for a shot past 400 yards for accuracy reasons without major upgrades.
Alternatively I was thinking a custom rifle using Mausingfield or Archimedes action for CRF for extra reliability as I have experienced the dreaded stuck case with both my savages which my knife solved shortly but still was not happy and if it happened at a critical point where a second shot was needed, unforgivable.... I will go with a Bartlein barrel or comparable. Trigger I am not sure. Stock I was looking at foundation (also looked at Manners and McMillan but am unsure since I can‘t order full adjustable and I can’t find a way to make it that way) but 2 big issues. First it is not fully adjustable, second that would equal a 10lbs rifle without scope! I was aiming for 10ish lbs with scope but it gets tiring which I can say from experience when the miles are adding up.
Further the recoil issue keeps nipping at the back of my mind and was considering the recoil reduction systems used on shotguns.
All of this is fluid and undecided so please grace me with some knowledge as research only takes me so far.
Rifle 2: <$2000
Story: My new toy xD
I have long loved the old school 30-30 and 30-06. However I was dreaming of the 6.5x55 Swede and 7x57 Mauser. Legendary calibers and commonly used outside the US. I would reload myself so ammo is not a concern.
The rifle: I was thinking of semi custom using a Tikka/Savage/CZ for that action(wish I could just buy a new m70 action without the barrel or stock :drool), put a quality barrel on the end and a new stock, maybe a trigger upgrade. Given that would put me in the $600-$800 range just for an action new unless I can find one used In good shape. Alternatively I was looking at custom actions like defiance and a few others that offer a CRF option I can order. Not really sure where to go with this or what the better route would be. The cartridges are for under 400 yards so I don’t need to get crazy, I rather want CRF but its not easy to get in todays market. Also it would be amazing if I could easily change barrels over to a different caliber. Thoughts? Input?
Rifle 3: <$2000
Story: People get their panties in a wad when I hike/scout in the off season with my hunting rifle as I spend the weekend stomping through bear territory. Game wardens understand once I explain I was scouting for the coming season and don’t want to be caught on the wrong side of something large, fury and muscular’s wayward interest in me. For one I dont think I would do well having an MMA match with a bear in the woods, the weight classes are just so different, plus they cheat and use teeth and claws. Second the bears just don’t understand how important I am(you better be laugh’n, that’s funny I don’t care who ya are.) Also I smell bad and taste funny, also, I cause indigestion and gas. I am not doing anything wrong, just staying active in the woods, observing and learning.
Rifle: Now read first and don’t jump down my throat.... I have a 300BLK which I run 180-220grain rounds. If I ran A frames 200g + IN THEORY it has the sectional density, build and force to punch a grizzly skull at <50 yards. This seems sketchy as hell and I am not a fan. (Now don’t jump me for the comment please, I recognize its shortcomings and agree there are other options that you now get the opportunity to tell me about.) With that, if a queen had the right anatomy she could be king and theories are like farts in the wind.... At any rate, I want something small, compact, reliable, accurate and less than friendly to Mr. Griz or any other unfriendly types (I’ve seen The Gray, it’s unlikely to happen but my imagination still hates me and lone wolves are still an issue although more probable are packs of wild dogs. I was considering a AR 10 in an alternate caliber but there has to be other options. What options are out there? Thoughts? Ideas?
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