$1000 decision

[shaman]

Got $1k set aside for gun money, and have two ways to spend it. I have a Savage MK2 in LR that I would like to send to Savage Gunsmithing to have accurized. Since as far as I know the barrel will be off, it would be a great time to get it threaded. It currently has a benchrest stock and Rifle basix trigger, but I would prefer to get it in a Boyd's Tacticool or similar and the accutrigger. So my choices as of right now are this.

1. Buy tacticool/similar stock and find an accutrigger for sale. Have SG install the trigger and bed the stock. Thread the barrel, start the NFA Trust paperwork ($200), and buy a suppressor. Sell of what is is left.

2. Sell current gun (no love lost), buy something closer to what I want (but don’t know what that would be). Repeat above.

3. Buy a powerful but quiet PCP air rifle in .22 or .25 ($400-600), and assorted accessories. Ammo will be cheaper, and always be quiet. Stay off the feds radar, not worry about who to leave the can to (wife is Japanese National), etc.

Being an air rifle I see it as being more useable as hunting lands get smaller, and cities say no to firearms in the city. But, I have wanted a can for a long time, and have the money to go forward with it.

Which way would you suggest? I have a Savage MK2 FV/BV in .17hm2 that will be the crow rifle, but the LR will be used for shooting practice, and if threaded and canned for pests. Got an LRS-1 with DIP 25 MOA base or higher custom base (120 MOA in the scope), and stick the 25 MOA base on the BV.

 

[TimK]

Re: $1000 decision

I'm in the midst of adding upgrades to a MK II FV. Stupid. I should have just purchased the correct rifle in the first place.

I think Savage now has a model with the Tacticool style stock and a threaded barrel.

 

[upjeeper]

Re: $1000 decision

lots of options.

1. go buy a cheap trainer .22 put a cheap scope on it an shoot the heck out of it, then spend $300 on a stevens 200 then slowly trade parts up as you can

2. go straight to a rem700 or savage

are you suggesting putting a can on an air rifle? just trying to clarify?

 

[nesikabay]

Re: $1000 decision

For your 1000 i might know where you could get a 40x with change left over along with the Savage still in your hands

 

[shaman]

Re: $1000 decision

The plans are for rimfire or air rifles. Centerfires are not in the cards due to distances.

1. Buy more parts for the Savage rimfire. Rimfire can and paperwork

2. Sell current Savage (no love lost), buy Savage that works better. Rimfire can and paperwork

3. Buy air rifle, tanks and compressor, no rimfire can or paperwork.

Current situation says that range and noise will be a concern.

 

[shaman]

Re: $1000 decision

No comments? I want to get the savage setup.

 

[shaman]

Re: $1000 decision

Saw an article on the recent varmint hunters magazine, and wanted to put some numbers together.

Rimfire - threading is $50 from the neighbor's lathe. Paperwork was supposed to be about $200-300, $200 for the stamp. $250 to $500 for the can $520 for 10K of CCI Standard Velocity.

$50 threading
$200 trust
$200 stamp
$250-500 can
$520 ammo
$1220-1470
10/22 would need some trigger and internal parts to be considered similar in trigger pull to most air rifles.

Pre-charged pneumatic or High Pressure Air. Cheapest route would be a $100 22ci tank with regulator for a HPA RWS 850. Gun was about $300. New PCP would be $400-660 new, minus 15% for used. Shoebox compressor is a 3000 or 4500 psi air compressor. Fittings, hoses, and gauges would be about $200

$100 for HPA conversion
Shoebox $549 plus shipping
$255 for 10K of JSB Exact Jumbo
$200 for misc
$1105 plus guppy tank and fittings
Or sell current air rifle for $250 and buy a PCP for $500 and add $250 to the total.
Compressor can be reduced by visiting a welding supply shop to rent a 6000psi nitrogen bottle, or buying a tank and having it filled at a paintball or dive shop, or a police station. I included to the compressor so that the comparison was self sufficient.

 

[Rookie]

Re: $1000 decision

I have a Gamo air rifle that shoots lead pellets at 1,000fps and alloy pellets at 1,200fps. Its 1-pump rifle. Not sure the proper term. Pneumatic? Anyway, it has a built in suppressor. Good accuracy. Pretty loud though because the pellets are super sonic. Cheap shooting.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: $1000 decision

I would never give Uncle Sam a penny more than I am obliged to by statute, and most certainly not for his permission to do something associated with exercising my Second Amendment rights.

If a 22 is too loud for you, a suppressor's not going to be very satisfying.

If you like way your existing rifle shoots; it's workin', and quit messin; with it.

You can buy a decent air rifle with $1000 and still have change left over. Use it for ammo for the 22, and rejoice in the relative silence of the air rifle, which <span style="font-style: italic">can</span> be bought right off the shelf wtih a suppressor, and no kowtow to Uncle Sugar.

Done here..., moving on...

Greg

 

[pdogsbeware]

Re: $1000 decision

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shaman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Current situation says that range and noise will be a concern.</div></div>
There's your answer. For your needs, I think you'll be happy with the air rifle. It's just that, stigma?, that it's not a "real" gun...even though the effects of the high end air rifles are the same as with a 22lr.
Plus no hoops, waiting or hassles with the can.

 

[at4rxj]

Re: $1000 decision

Sell the 22 and buy a Savage Mk II FV/SR

I had a Mk II and looked into threading it, and I came out cheaper to just sell it and get the FV/SR. Nice short heavy barrel, already threaded, and a nice bolt knob. You can find a suppressor for $200-250, a lawyer-drawn trust for $300 (you can also do this cheaper), tax stamp for $200, and even just buying the rifle outright you're right around $1k. Federal copper plated bulk can be found for half the price you listed at Wally World.

 

[shaman]

Re: $1000 decision

I know that the bulk plated is cheaper, but I was listed decent "target ammo". I know that I will have to find out what the guns like, but it is a safe middle of the road ammo.

 

[shaman]

Re: $1000 decision

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rookie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Gamo air rifle that shoots lead pellets at 1,000fps and alloy pellets at 1,200fps. Its 1-pump rifle. Not sure the proper term. Pneumatic? Anyway, it has a built in suppressor. Good accuracy. Pretty loud though because the pellets are super sonic. Cheap shooting.</div></div>

Springer, or Gas ram. I highly suggest you actually check your speeds. Diabolo pellets don't like being supersonic. I have some springers, but I am looking into something more powerful, more quiet, and less hold-sensitive. Gamo is also known for highly overrating their speeds. Might get there with some starter fluid in the piston though.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: at4rxj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sell the 22 and buy a Savage Mk II FV/SR

I had a Mk II and looked into threading it, and I came out cheaper to just sell it and get the FV/SR. Nice short heavy barrel, already threaded, and a nice bolt knob. You can find a suppressor for $200-250, a lawyer-drawn trust for $300 (you can also do this cheaper), tax stamp for $200, and even just buying the rifle outright you're right around $1k. Federal copper plated bulk can be found for half the price you listed at Wally World. </div></div>

Got a bookmark to Bud's Gunshop with the FFL in the inbox. I could draw up a trust myself, but don't like the idea of getting it wrong.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would never give Uncle Sam a penny more than I am obliged to by statute, and most certainly not for his permission to do something associated with exercising my Second Amendment rights.</div></div>
No argument here. But, necessary evil blah blah. A member from another forum thought that cans would soon be going the way of machine guns, and will buy at least three when he has the money. Opinions...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> If a 22 is too loud for you, a suppressor's not going to be very satisfying.</div></div>
I haven't shot subsonics in a .22 yet. We have always just shot the cheap bulk stuff. It has been nice enough for clay pigeons at 100 yards. I don't know if the .22 will be quiet or accurate enough.

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If you like way your existing rifle shoots; it's workin', and quit messin; with it.

Greg</div></div>
I honestly don't like the way it shoots, hence the reason for HPA. It is CO2 right now, and co2 at 30-40 degrees fahrenheit(the temp in North Texas when I am in North Texas to shoot it) is neither fast or consistent, especially when any speed is used in shooting. I know that it is not the gun's fault, but until I get permanently back to the states, that is what I get to work with, or shove a handwarmer in the stock.