(100YARD), Semi-Auto, 6groups, 30round SHOOTOUT!

[elfster1234]

MAKE NOTE THAT "SHOTS LISTED ON WHAT EVER PAGE" is not that same anymore since sniper's hide changed website layout!!

<span style="color: #330099">MAKE NOTE THAT this round has closed! and ROUND2 is now open here!:</span>
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...00yard-semi-auto-6group-30round-shootout.html

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #993300">YOUR ENTRY WILL NOT COUNT UNLESS YOU FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE ENTRY LISTED WITHIN THIS ORIGINAL POST!!</span></span></span>


<span style="color: #330099"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">(((((((((( 100 YARD SHOOTOUT!!!!! ))))))))))</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #330099"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">****NOTE!!! NO ADJUSTABLE BENCH RESTS OR VISES!! ONLY BIPODS, MONOPODS, OR FRONT/REAR SAND BAGS ONLY!!!****</span></span></span>


<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #FF0000">((((( 100 YARD !!! )))))SNIPER'S HIDE SEMI-AUTO BEST AVERAGE (TOP TEN) (average# is what really counts!):</span></span></span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">*** #1 place: Overkill, 24" KREIGER BULL DPMS REPR .260 REM, (.31983" average), shot on (10/15/12), post on page#13
***</span>
#2 place: dmpowder, 16" BULL DPMS SWEET 16 5.56, (.459" average), shot on (10/04/12), post on page#12
#3 place: Victory, 18" SPR NOVESKE 5.56, (.515" average), shot on (10/03/12), post on page#12
#4 place: Squin, 24" BULL GRENDEL LBC-AR .264 LBC-AR, (.5317" average), shot on (09/15/12), post on page#8
#5 place: Boone3380, 24" BULL RRA VARMINT 5.56, (.601" average), shot on (09/24/12), post on page#13
#6 place: Hunt1, 24" BULL DPMS 5.56, (.659" average), shot on (10/06/12), post on page#12
#7 place: Mcarnell82, 20" BULL RRA VARMINT 5.56, (.7173" average), shot on (09/10/12), post on page#5
#8 place: Jon Lester, 23" GAP 10 6 CREED, (.723" average), shot on (09/21/12), post on page#8
#9 place: Crashnrando, 18"MID BHW AR YHM UP&LOW 6x45, (.736" average), shot on (09/28/12), post on page#10
#10 place: Elfster1234 , 20"CL LMT MWS 7.62 , (.749" average) , shot on (08/26/12), post on page#1


<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #009900">((((( 100 YARD !!! ))))) SNIPER'S HIDE SEMI-AUTO BEST SINGLE GROUP (TOP TEN):</span></span></span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">#1 place: Overkill, 24" KREIGER BULL DPMS REPR .260 REM, (.054" best single), shot on (10/15/12), post on page#13 </span>
#2 place: dmpowder, 16" BULL DPMS SWEET 16 5.56, (.197" best single), shot on (10/04/12), post on page#12
#3 place: Victory, 18" SPR NOVESKE 5.56, (.300" best single), shot on (10/03/12), post on page#12
#4 place: OldTurtle, 16" BULL DPMS 5.56, (.338" best single), shot on (10/01/12), post on page#11
#5 place: Jon Lester, 23" GAP 10 6 CREED, (.342" best single), shot on (09/21/12), post on page#8
#6 place: Hunt1, 24" BULL DPMS 5.56, (.376" best single), shot on (10/06/12), post on page#12
#7 place: Mcarnell82, 20" BULL RRA VARMINT 5.56, (.382" best single), shot on (09/10/12), post on page#5
#8 place: Crashnrando, 18"MID BHW AR YHM UP&LOW 6x45, (.39" best single), shot on (09/28/12), post on page#10
#9 place: Howa4AU, 18" Lilja DPMS UPPER / LMT LOWER 5.56, (.395" best single), shot on (10/08/12), post on page#13
#10 place: Elfster1234 , 20"CL LMT MWS 7.62 , (.397" best single) , shot on (08/26/12) , post on page#1


<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #CC6600">((((( 100 YARD !!! ))))) GRAND PRIZE... This person shoots .5" @ 100yrds all day long board (started 08/27/12)!!!</span></span></span>
- Overkill, 24" KREIGER BULL DPMS REPR .260 REM, (.31983" average), shot on (10/15/12), post on page#13 (Overkill can talk all the BS he wants until he is blue in the face, WTG!!)


<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #993399">((((( 100 YARD !!! ))))) HONORABLE MENTION #1, This person can actually shoot SUB-MOA ALL DAY LONG board (all 6groups are under 1" @ 100yards).... the rest of us are just lucky a$$ bastards, LOL JK!!!</span></span></span>
- Overkill, 24" KREIGER BULL DPMS REPR .260 REM, (.31983" average), shot on (10/15/12), post on page#13
- dmpowder, 16" BULL DPMS SWEET 16 5.56, (.459" average), shot on (10/04/12), post on page#12
- Victory, 18" SPR NOVESKE 5.56, (.515" average), shot on (10/03/12), post on page#12
- Squin, 24" BULL GRENDEL LBC-AR .264 LBC-AR, (.5317" average), shot on (09/15/12), on page#8
- Boone3380, 24" BULL RRA VARMINT 5.56, (.601" average), shot on (09/24/12), post on page#13
- Hunt1, 24" BULL DPMS 5.56, (.659" average), shot on (10/06/12), post on page#12
- Jon Lester, 23" GAP 10 6 CREED, (.723" average), shot on (09/21/12), post on page#8
- Nakas , 20" OBR 7.62 , (.795" average) , shot on (08/29/12) , post on page#2
- Heydogman, 24" BULL DPMS LR 6.5 CREED, (.815" average), shot on (09/22/12), post on page#8
- Crashnrondo, 16" RRA MID w/YHM LOWER 5.56, (.842" average), shot on (09/03/12), post on page#4


<span style="color: #993399"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">((((( 100 YARD !!! ))))) HONORABLE MENTION #2, They may or may not be the current leader, but they are representing their CARTRIDGE to the fullest!! Hell, you don't even need to make the top ten! Just get us 6groups / 5shots as per the rules with your AK-47 & iron sights and you're golden!! $hit, use an UMP45 for all I care!! Heck, nothing said it can't be a .22 rim fire right?? TIME TO BUST OUT THE .50 BMG!!! It just needs to be semi-auto!!</span></span></span>
- (((.22 rim fire)))= Boone3380, BULL BARREL RUGER 10/22 TARGET 22LR .22, (1.624" average), shot on (09/27/12), on page#10
- (((5.56X45 / .223)))= dmpowder, 16" BULL DPMS SWEET 16 5.56, (.459" average), shot on (10/04/12), post on page#12
- (((6x45)))= Crashnrando, 18"MID BHW AR YHM UP&LOW 6x45, (.736" average), shot on (09/28/12), post on page#10
- (((6 CREED)))= Jon Lester, 23" GAP 10 6 CREED, (.723" average), shot on (09/21/12), post on page#8
- (((.260 REM)))= Overkill, 24" KREIGER BULL DPMS REPR .260 REM, (.31983" average), shot on (10/15/12), post on page#13
- (((.264 LBC-AR)))= Squin, 24" BULL GRENDEL LBC-AR .264 LBC-AR, (.5317" average), shot on (09/15/12), on page#8
- (((6.5 CREED)))= Heydogman, 24" BULL DPMS LR 6.5 CREED, (.815" average), shot on (09/22/12), post on page#8
- (((.30 carbine)))= your name here!!!
- (((7.62x35 / 300 blackout)))= your name here!!!
- (((7.62X39)))= your name here!!!
- (((7.62X51 / .308)))= Elfster1234 , 20"CL LMT MWS 7.62 , (.749" average) , shot on (08/26/12), post on page#1
- (((30-06)))= your name here!!!
- (((9mm luger)))= your name here!!!
- (((.40 s&w)))= your name here!!!
- (((.45acp)))= your name here!!!
- (((.50 bmg)))= ohhhhh yeah baby!!! your name here!!!
- will add other cartridges if needed = your name here!!!


<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"> ((((( 100 YARD !!! ))))) past leaders for average(what really counts):</span></span>
- Nakas , 20" OBR 7.62 , (.795" average) , shot on (08/29/12) , post on page#2
- Heydogman, 24" BULL DPMS LR 6.5 CREED, (.815" average), shot on (09/22/12), post on page#8
- Nakas, 24"match KAC/KMC SR25 7.62, (.83" average), shot on (09/09/12), post on page#4
- Crashnrondo, 16" RRA MID w/YHM LOWER 5.56, (.842" average), shot on (09/03/12), post on page#4
- Line-of-Departure, 18" GAP-10 7.62, (.8534" average), shot on (09/07/12), post on page#4
- Temp9, 16" SPR BUILD AR-15 5.56, (.8735" average), shot on (09/12/12), post on page#5
- KevinB-KAC, 20" M110 SASS 7.62, (.9033" average), shot on (09/15/12), post on page#6
- JWP6114, 20" RRA 5.56, (.9165" average), shot on (09/07/12), post on page#4
- Lennyo3034, 22" M25 7.62, (.9848" average), shot on (09/14/12), post on page#6
- KevinB-KAC, 16"CL KAC SR-25 ECC Carbine 7.62, (1.0156" average), shot on (09/09/12), post on page#5
- CanSniper , 18"SS LMT MWS 7.62 , (1.05" average) , shot on (08/31/12) , post on page#2
- Cox380, 18" SPR AR-15 BUILD 5.56, (1.07" average), shot on (09/02/12), post on page#3
- USMAGator , 18" OBR 7.62 , (1.1386" average) , shot on(09/09/12) , post on page#4
- Robinc, 18" WOA SPR AR-15 5.56, (1.1968" average), shot on (09/03/12), post on page#4



<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">((((( 100 YARD !!! ))))) past leaders for best single group:</span></span>
- Boone3380, 24" BULL RRA VARMINT 5.56, (.403" best single), shot on (09/24/12), post on page#9
- Squin, 24" BULL GRENDEL LBC-AR .264 LBC-AR, (.411" best single), shot on (09/15/12), post on page#6
- Temp9, 16" SPR BUILD AR-15 5.56, (.4195" best single), shot on (09/12/12), post on page#5
- KevinB-KAC, 20" M110 SASS 7.62, (.445" best single), shot on (09/15/12), post on page#6
- Nakas, 24"match KAC/KMC SR25 7.62, (.469" best single), shot on (09/09/12), post on page#4
- Nakas , 20" OBR 7.62 , (.480" best single) , shot on (08/29/12) , post on page#2
- JWP6114, 20" RRA 5.56, (.492" best single), shot on (09/07/12), post on page#4
- Line-of-Departure, 18" GAP-10 7.62, (.5235" best single), shot on (09/07/12), post on page#4
- KevinB-KAC, 16"CL KAC SR-25 ECC Carbine 7.62, (.559" best single), shot on (09/09/12), post on page#5
- CanSniper , 18"SS LMT MWS 7.62, (.605" best single) , shot on (08/31/12) , post on page#2
- Crashnrondo, 16" RRA MID w/YHM LOWER 5.56, (.62" best single), shot on (09/03/12), post on page#4
- USMAGator , 18" OBR 7.62 , (.663" best single) , shot on (09/09/12) , post on page#4
- Cox380, 18" SPR AR-15 BUILD 5.56, (.780" best single), shot on (09/02/12), post on page#3
- Robinc, 18" WOA SPR AR-15 5.56, (.828" best single), shot on (09/03/12), post on page#4




<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #FF6666">((((( 100 YARD !!! ))))) THE SHOOTOUT OVERVIEW!</span></span></span>
I thought this would be really fun for us Semi-Auto platform shooters to really show off your bad A$$ rifles and sniper's hide shooting skills in the Semi-Auto community. <span style="font-weight: bold">Enough of the "shoots .5moa all day long @ 100yards" talk, and to actually walk the walk!!!... </span>Lets give those bolt action guys a run for their money! If you think this will be easy, then think again. You will never know until you try it! Will purchase a shot for the first .5" all day long crown! LOL

<span style="font-weight: bold">Please, only picture / groupings post only!!</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #FF6666">HERE ARE THE GUIDELINES TO POST:</span></span></span>

1.) <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">At 100yards</span></span> (please be honest about this 100yards), all 6 groupings, 5shots each, 30 total bullets (no more, no less)... Must be on one large target <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">about</span></span> 2'x3' (or smaller target if you can fit your bad ass groups on 8x11 paper).... What ever size you think you can get 6 groups @ 5shots each on.... <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Can NOT be on individual targets.</span></span> MUST BE on one target with 6 total groupings, 5shots each, 30 total bullets. That's it!! Would prefer 6 total @ 3/4" to 1" round sticker type targets on ONE large poster size target (or just use a black magic marker to make the 6 target markings). <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">All consecutively shot</span>. </span>Shoot as fast or slow as you want, but must be shot within that day!!... If your one piece of paper / cardboard doesn't have 30 bullet holes, it doesn't count..... Bullet holes must be easy to see in your picture!! This is NOT about bullseyes!! All about grouping size average and your best group size!! All in good fun people... .25" or 5",, show off your skills baby! Just try your best! Everyone is welcome here regardless of skill! Piston or DI, AR or M1A, it's all semi-auto cool baby!

2.) Can be any caliber Semi Auto type platform. 308, 223, 260, 30-06, what ever. SEMI AUTO ONLY!! No bolt actions!!!

3.) Can use any type factory or reloaded ammo. What ever works best for your rifle.

4.) cough, <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">honestly measure with calipers </span></span>the distance of your two furthest bullet holes of each 5shot groupings (((center to center of each bullet hole))) and <span style="font-weight: bold">write this measurement IN LARGE FONT BLACK MAGIC MARKER right next to each grouping (6 total measurements). </span>

5.) <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Post close up picture of your best SINGLE group</span></span> WITH CALIPERS showing the measurement!! <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">MUST BE WITH CALIPERS!! NO RULERS ALLOWED!!</span></span> If you don't have calipers, then go buy some. They are only $20 bucks!! Sheesshh, stop being such as cheap A$$ !! JK... Please be honest with your measurements!!! No coins or objects for scale!!! Just hard core measurements.

6.) <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Post picture of entire target showing all 6 groupings / measurements with calipers still on your best grouping!!</span></span> NO picture, then it didn't happen!!

7.) <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">In your posting</span></span>, add up all 6 measurements and divide by 6 for your average MOA shot. Example, 1.12" + 1.01" + .56" + .75" + 2.25" + 3.46" = 9.15 divided by 6groupings = 1.525" average.

8.) Please, be honest! No shooting with your bolt action and playing it off as your semi-auto!! <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">NO SHUTTING OFF OF GAS BLOCKS</span></span> as this would turn off the semi-auto nature of your rifle. Can adjust gas block if needed, just can not shut it off all together!!!... <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">In short, your bolt must make a complete cycle after the shot taken... You can not manually cycle the rifle on each round!!!</span></span>

9.) <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">If you do reload, feel free to post your load specs!</span></span>

10.) <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">Post what type of semi-auto rifle, ammo used, and how you took your shots (prone, bench, bipod, sandbags used, blah blah blah)...</span></span>........ <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">No lock down gun vises!! </span></span>Sandbags are ok, bipods are ok, monopods are ok.... If you are using a vise, then you are not really shooting the damn rifle and a monkey can shoot the rifle for you.

11.) Please post a picture of your rifle with your entry!!!!

12.) there is NO SUCH THING AS "FLYERS" in this shootout.. any possible "flyers" you might have count as your group!! damn those flyers!!!

13.) Please put the type of rifle, your sniper's hide name, and date you <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">consecutively shot</span></span> at the top of your target!

14.) As long as you follow the rules, have 6 groups @ 5shots each / 30 total bullets only, then feel free to post your results regardless of your average / single group size even if you don't make the leader boards!! You can not have multiple rankings / measurements on the leader boards,,,, <span style="font-weight: bold">only your best entry will make the boards with your one rifle</span>.... You can however, have multiple leader-board entries by using two completely different semi auto rifles. In short, you can make as many attempts as you want with your rifle in order to improve your standing on the boards / get the best possible outcome with your rifle... no limits on entries..... the only way to be on the boards more than once at the same time is to use two different rifles.... Rock out as many semi auto rifles / entries as you want. Time to bust out that semi-auto collection!! All info is good info. Each rifle is different, has different optics, has different purpose, and different operators!!!! Be respectful of everyone's postings! Sub MOA or not, show off your rifle and skills! This is all in good fun!

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">15.) IF and only IF, with a semi-auto, you get ALL 6 total groups, 5shots each, consecutively shot in one day of shooting, AT or UNDER .5"moa ON EACH GROUP @ 100yards, THEN you will get the esteemed title of, "This person, (your name), with this semi-auto rifle, (type/brand of rifle), shoots .5moa ALL DAY LONG" on the original post!!!! You will be required to have caliper measurements with pics ON EACH GROUP if you think you made it this far!! No cheaters or you will be called out if anything looks fishy... Until then, you are mostly just full of BS! Which also goes for myself! I do NOT have a .5moa all day long rifle! My rifle and myself are more like a .7 to .8 all day long kind of team!! JK LOL</span></span>



<span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">THIS IS THE EXAMPLE ENTRY BELOW!! IF YOUR ENTRY DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS, THEN IT WILL NOT COUNT AND YOU WILL BE ASK TO RE-DO YOUR ENTRY (STARTS TODAY 10/04/12)!!! </span></span></span>

Shot with my 20"CL LMT MWS @ 100yards with harris bipod front & rear bag on bench.
Average was .749"
Best group was .397"
Rifle used = 20" CL barrel LMT MWS 7.62
Barrel Length / Type = 20" chrome lined heavy barrel
Optics = moa/moa 4-16x50 vortex viper FFP
Mount = Larue LT158 with 10moa cant

Shot with reloads
2fired 7.62 nato brass
cci 200's
40.5 gr varget
168gr AMAX
2.198 ogive seating depth / ~ about 2.809 coal


.397" + .613" + .910" + .738" + .806" + 1.030" = 4.494 / 6 = .749 average over 6 groupings @ 5shots each / 30 total bullets:

Best group was .397":

My rifle, 20"CL BARREL, LMT MWS 7.62:

(optional) My reloads / bullets used:

<span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">ONLY BIPODS, MONOPODS, FRONT/REAR SANDBAGS ALLOWED!! </span></span></span>

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #FF6666">THE FOLLOWING VISES, ADJUSTABLE FRONT RESTS, AND SLEDS ARE NOT ALLOWED:</span></span></span>

 

[blksno]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

If we're going for 6 groups and they are all going to be sub MOA...why the hell does it need to be any bigger of a target than a standard 8.5" x 11" sheet of printer paper with six individual target zones.

 

[elfster1234]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

there, i fixed it for you brother.... how does that work for ya?

i'm sure there will be some people that would like to post that will not be sub moa tho. just get to shooting will ya you bad a$$!

someone always has something to say.... this is all in good fun!


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c_bass16</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If we're going for 6 groups and they are all going to be sub MOA...why the hell does it need to be any bigger of a target than a standard 8.5" x 11" sheet of printer paper with six individual target zones.

</div></div>

 

[shooterman_zero17]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

I'm quite partial to my cardboard and sticky 1" orange dots.

Hopefully I'll have something worth contributing after Friday...

 

[elfster1234]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Changed posting to just semi-auto. Sorry M1A / M1grand peps! Tip my hat to ya. Hell, kick in the AK-47's!!!

 

[Pigman]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Great idea, elfster! Hopefully I'll have my AR finished in the next couple weeks so I can get some groups to post.

 

[elfster1234]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

looking forward to it!!! lets get those pictures and measurements posted peps!!i should have something up by this weekend or next weekend!!


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pigman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great idea, elfster! Hopefully I'll have my AR finished in the next couple weeks so I can get some groups to post. </div></div>

 

[Steelhead]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Tag for later.

I'll do one with my Rock River LAR-8 Varmint and when my GAP-10 shows up on Monday, I'll get it out and do the same thing.

LAR-8 is a .308, the GAP-10 is a 6mm Creedmoor.

 

[cpatbay]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

I don't think there will be anyone posting their 2 MOA results ...

 

[Temp9]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Definitely interested! I have to put it off a little bit because I just started bullet coating, and I haven't worked up a load yet. Not to mention classes just started this week. But I'd like to get in on this eventually.

 

[R.O.U.S.]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

What is wrong with individual targets?

 

[elfster1234]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

because if you use 1 target per grouping, then how do we all know you didn't shoot 300 rounds and you just pick and choose your best 5shot group targets...

one target with 6 total 5shot groups... 30 bullets, 30 bullet holes in one piece of paper / cardboard... any less and any more than 30 bullet holes (6 groups with 5shots per) in one piece of paper / cardboard / whatever and it doesn't count... easy as that. Just read the directions in the OP.....


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R.O.U.S.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is wrong with individual targets? </div></div>

 

[elfster1234]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

sure there will... just try your best... everyone has different rifles and different optics and different skill levels... all group sizes welcome.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1kOrBust</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think there will be anyone posting their 2 MOA results ... </div></div>

 

[elfster1234]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

it's not "some" groups...... it is 6 total 5shot groups, 30 bullets.. can't wait to see your results brother!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pigman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great idea, elfster! Hopefully I'll have my AR finished in the next couple weeks so I can get some groups to post. </div></div>

 

[elfster1234]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

<span style="font-weight: bold">AN E<span style="text-decoration: underline">XAMPLE</span> TARGET! If you are a bad ass and can get all 6 groups on one 8"x11", then be a bad ass. This example average you list in your post would be: 1.076" + .563" + 1.634" + .488" + 1.898" + 1.447" = 7.106 divided by 6groups = 1.184" average!</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">EXAMPLE OF CLOSE UP SHOT OF <span style="text-decoration: underline">BEST GROUP</span> @ .488":</span>

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[Temp9]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Preface: I wanted to get this thread going somewhere, so I dug up a target from earlier this summer. This technically doesn't count, I suppose, since one group was half off the paper. That was my zeroing group for these loads. This target contains shots 26-55 out of a brand new barrel. My more current targets all only contain 5 groups (one group per diamond).


Target:

Average group size: .863"/.824MOA

Grids are .940". Measurement of the "off-the-paper" group was taken when the target was still taped to the target backer.


Rifle:
Upper/Lower receivers - S&W MP15 Sport
BCG - S&W MP15 Sport
Troy TRX Extreme 11" FF Rail
Rainier Ultramatch 16" barrel
Armalite 2-stage trigger, 3.5lb
Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44mm
Atlas bipod, TAB rear bag

Shots were taken prone with a 'pod up front, and a bag at the rear. If I had to guess, I would say it took around 35-40 minutes to shoot this target. I'll post pics of the rifle when I submit a fully qualifying target.


Ammo:
"55gr NV" - 55gr Nosler Varmageddon BT, Hodgdon H322, FGMM SR primers
"77gr NCC" - 77gr Nosler Custom Competition, Hodgdon VARGET, FGMM SR primers

The Varmageddon load had an OCW shot for it previously, and this was the second stage of load development. The Custom Comp load was a load that worked for me with the previous barrel. Turns out I was close to a scatter node, with my accuracy node close to 24.7gr VARGET. Oh, well.


I'll submit another target later that I'll shoot just for this thread, but I just wanted to (hopefully) kick this thread off. Should be fun!

 

[elfster1234]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

That is some damn nice shooting! Just too bad you are missing the 6th group!! Get us another target with 6 total groups and I'll get your name posted.


Going to the range this sunday and should have a 6group target done. Hopefully it turns out nice.

Good shooting, but doesn't count my friend. Keep us posted.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Temp9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Preface: I wanted to get this thread going somewhere, so I dug up a target from earlier this summer. This technically doesn't count, I suppose, since one group was half off the paper. That was my zeroing group for these loads. This target contains shots 26-55 out of a brand new barrel. My more current targets all only contain 5 groups (one group per diamond).


Target:

Average group size: .863"/.824MOA

Grids are .940". Measurement of the "off-the-paper" group was taken when the target was still taped to the target backer.


Rifle:
Upper/Lower receivers - S&W MP15 Sport
BCG - S&W MP15 Sport
Troy TRX Extreme 11" FF Rail
Rainier Ultramatch 16" barrel
Armalite 2-stage trigger, 3.5lb
Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44mm
Atlas bipod, TAB rear bag

Shots were taken prone with a 'pod up front, and a bag at the rear. If I had to guess, I would say it took around 35-40 minutes to shoot this target. I'll post pics of the rifle when I submit a fully qualifying target.


Ammo:
"55gr NV" - 55gr Nosler Varmageddon BT, Hodgdon H322, FGMM SR primers
"77gr NCC" - 77gr Nosler Custom Competition, Hodgdon VARGET, FGMM SR primers

The Varmageddon load had an OCW shot for it previously, and this was the second stage of load development. The Custom Comp load was a load that worked for me with the previous barrel. Turns out I was close to a scatter node, with my accuracy node close to 24.7gr VARGET. Oh, well.


I'll submit another target later that I'll shoot just for this thread, but I just wanted to (hopefully) kick this thread off. Should be fun! </div></div>

 

[Temp9]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is some damn nice shooting! Just too bad you are missing the 6th group!! Get us another target with 6 total groups and I'll get your name posted.


Going to the range this sunday and should have a 6group target done. Hopefully it turns out nice.

Good shooting, but doesn't count my friend. Keep us posted.
</div></div>

In my defense, I'm missing half a group.

But I'll try to work up a load next week, and I should be able to get you a real entry by the week following next.

And I was wondering when you were going to post yours. It's bad luck to post a challenge on a public forum and not complete it yourself. Kind of like starting a picture thread without posting a picture.

 

[elfster1234]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

lol, i should have something up by sunday... working all week is a killer... loading up some ammo tomorrow and shooting on sunday.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Temp9</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is some damn nice shooting! Just too bad you are missing the 6th group!! Get us another target with 6 total groups and I'll get your name posted.


Going to the range this sunday and should have a 6group target done. Hopefully it turns out nice.

Good shooting, but doesn't count my friend. Keep us posted.
</div></div>

In my defense, I'm missing half a group.

But I'll try to work up a load next week, and I should be able to get you a real entry by the week following next.

And I was wondering when you were going to post yours. It's bad luck to post a challenge on a public forum and not complete it yourself. Kind of like starting a picture thread without posting a picture. </div></div>

 

[Jumper]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

I'll play. But it will probably be Tuesday or Wednesday before I can shoot em. Cool contest.

 

[Victory]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Guessing there will be some post after this weekend. My trigger is in the mail right now, but I will try to get to the range this weekend and see what I can do with the Noveske upper and a colt lower from one of my other AR's.

Just made my weekend exciting.

 

[thespecialist]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Well damn, now I have to go to the range

 

[dmpowder]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are a bad ass and can get all 6 groups on one 8"x11"

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Not sure I would consider yourself bad ass for being able to do this. These are the targets I use for load work and there are plenty just like it. 6 targets all on one 8.5x11 sheet of paper.

It's cool if we post 2 different sets?? Got 2 nice loads and will be kind of fun to see which has the better AVG. of the 2.

IF anyone cares here is the LINK to them.

 

[elfster1234]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Ok Temp 9, you made me go down into my big pile of old targets in the basement to see if I actually had a target with 6 groups @ 5shots each, with 30 total bullet holes. I only had 2 total in my big mess of targets that I could find and this is by no means my best especially for crappy factory ammo, but this should <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">get the party started for you all and give everyone an easy target to beat!! </span></span>

Was mostly shot with factory 7.62x51 168 american eagle ammo, and I do have two groups done with some of my reloads when I first started reloading. Was shot about 1 month ago? Was shot with a harris bipod off a bench @ 100yards. I don't see this being an issue to beat this coming sunday for myself. I just got done reloading 80 rounds @ 168 amax's for this sunday's shoot!!

<span style="text-decoration: underline">If possible pep's, try to mirror your pictures around this posting so this thread is consistant. Make postings short and simple with 3 total pictures (pic of entire target with label above it, close up pick of best group with label above it, and pic of your rifle with label above it). Just make sure you read the directions in the orginal post!</span>

1.298" + .922" + .784" + 1.34" + 1.142" + 1.58" = 7.066 / 6 = 1.18" average

Best single group was .784"

My LMT MWS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Temp9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

In my defense, I'm missing half a group.

But I'll try to work up a load next week, and I should be able to get you a real entry by the week following next.

And I was wondering when you were going to post yours. It's bad luck to post a challenge on a public forum and not complete it yourself. Kind of like starting a picture thread without posting a picture. </div></div>

 

[NoFail]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Elfsfer is this an ongoing deal or does it expire? I might have just closed in on a kick ass load I've been trying for. Well if it's for real then I'm there already. I need to do a 5 group 5 shot each test to prove my load so I might as well make it more fun and do 6 groups for this thread. Great fun I'll get to loading and shooting as soon as I can.

 

[elfster1234]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

To NoFail and everyone else,,,,, this thread will go on as long as everyone keeps posting and I'll try to <span style="text-decoration: underline">update the leaders on the original post</span> as long as I can!! get to shooting brother! Looking forward to your groups. I'm itching to get out this sunday.

would help if they just made it a sticky.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NoFail</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Elfsfer is this an ongoing deal or does it expire? I might have just closed in on a kick ass load I've been trying for. Well if it's for real then I'm there already. I need to do a 5 group 5 shot each test to prove my load so I might as well make it more fun and do 6 groups for this thread. Great fun I'll get to loading and shooting as soon as I can. </div></div>

 

[NoFail]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Okay cool. I'll come back here as soon as I can.

I'll be back with this....

This

+ this

= something like this, I hope

Just have to duplicate the load for 30 rounds and see if it's for real, I'm hopeful.

 

[Temp9]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Nice job, Elfster. Not bad at all for factory ammo! This is gonna be a great challenge!

I just realized that I won't get my scope back from Vortex until Wednesday afternoon. I have class late on Thursday, busy Friday and weekend, so I won't be able to get my results up until probably three weeks from now. Thanks for giving me something to look forward to, though.

 

[Bradu]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

I might just have to throw my 5.5-22 nightforce on my Gap and RWS ar-10s to see how well I do.

 

[USMAGator]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Been working up a load for this rifle using 168gr SMKs, here's today's results with a few weights of IMR4895. I'm planning to keep working in the 41.5-42ish range to see if it'll tighten up some. I know the gun likes Varget (shoots in the .4's-.7's when I do my part) with the 168's, but I figured I'd shop around to see if I could beat that.

Still not sure what happened with the flyer on the middle target, right side. I thought I shot it clean, but something was clearly off.

This was shot off the bench @ 100 yards, front bipod, no rear support, 5 minutes between strings. I may take bags out to shoot next time just to see what the difference is, if any.
I measured the groups edge to edge and then subtracted the bullet diameter.

1.294" + 1.162" + 1.781" + 0.898" + 0.736" + 1.108" = 6.979" / 6 = 1.163" avg. (Let me know what the penalty is for my wife's cat sitting on the target...I'm just glad he's there rather than getting more hair on my reloading bench!)

Best group = 1.044" edge to edge - .308" = 0.736"

The tool - 18" OBR 7.62, NF 5.5-22x56

Ammo:
168gr SMK
IMR 4895 (40.5-42gr workup)
CCI #200 LRP
LC 09 brass, 2x fired, FL resized with RCBS X-die
OAL 2.795

I'll probably post again once I get the loads a little more consistent and find my node!

 

[chansen49]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!



Bery bery nice!..


Ch

 

[elfster1234]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

VERY NICE JOB USMAGator!!! Nice shooting and nice rifle my friend.

Being that you are the first person to post, then you are in the lead and the person to beat! You are listed on the original post!

WTG!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMAGator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Been working up a load for this rifle using 168gr SMKs, here's today's results with a few weights of IMR4895. I'm planning to keep working in the 41.5-42ish range to see if it'll tighten up some. I know the gun likes Varget (shoots in the .4's-.7's when I do my part) with the 168's, but I figured I'd shop around to see if I could beat that.

Still not sure what happened with the flyer on the middle target, right side. I thought I shot it clean, but something was clearly off.

This was shot off the bench @ 100 yards, front bipod, no rear support, 5 minutes between strings. I may take bags out to shoot next time just to see what the difference is, if any.
I measured the groups edge to edge and then subtracted the bullet diameter.

1.294" + 1.162" + 1.781" + 0.898" + 0.736" + 1.108" = 6.979" / 6 = 1.163" avg. (Let me know what the penalty is for my wife's cat sitting on the target...I'm just glad he's there rather than getting more hair on my reloading bench!)

Ammo:
168gr SMK
IMR 4895 (40.5-42gr workup)
CCI #200 LRP
LC 09 brass, 2x fired, FL resized with RCBS X-die
OAL 2.795

I'll probably post again once I get the loads a little more consistent and find my node!
</div></div>

 

[USMAGator]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">VERY NICE JOB USMAGator!!! Nice shooting and nice rifle my friend.

Being that you are the first person to post, then you are in the lead and the person to beat! You are listed on the original post!

WTG!!

</div></div>

Thank you, it probably wont stay up top for long

This ought to be a fun thread...looking forward to seeing what some of the GAP and JP rifle owners can throw in here!

 

[CanSniper]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Shot both these with my LMT MWS 308 18"ss
Running my handloaded 178 AMAX.
The second target has some misc sighters from anouther shooter and rifle. I know the OP said no flyers so I will gladly remove it if the OP thinks it is out of line.

Target #1 avg .881"

Target #1 smallest group .665"

Target #2 avg .753"

Target #2 smallest group .561"

 

[elfster1234]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

sorry my friend, as nice as this is, rules are 30 bullets only, 30 bullet holes only, 6groups, 5 shots each only. As nice as your shooting is, this does not count. Hook me up with another target with only 30 bullet holes and you will be golden. Nice shooting tho!!

Elf


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CanSniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Shot both these with my LMT MWS 308 18"ss
Running my handloaded 178 AMAX.
The second target has some misc sighters from anouther shooter and rifle. I know the OP said no flyers so I will gladly remove it if the OP thinks it is out of line.

Target #1 avg .881"

Target #1 smallest group .665"

Target #2 avg .753"

Target #2 smallest group .561"

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[dmpowder]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Agreed your "sighter's" are to randomly place in target 2 for me to think they are true!

 

[CanSniper]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Point taken!
Just happend to have these already, I will try to shoot another tomorrow.

 

[512BPG]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

love this idea. just now working on a 175smk load after getting my barrel chopped to 18. will get a 30 rounder up soon.

 

[elfster1234]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

I hate to do this to ya USMAGator. Here is my outcome of today's shooting.

Shot with my 20"CL LMT MWS @ 100yards with harris bipod on bench.
Average was .749"
Best group was .397"
Rifle used = 20" CL barrel LMT MWS 7.62
Optics = moa/moa 4-16x50 vortex viper FFP
Mount = Larue LT158 with 10moa cant

Shot with reloads
2fired 7.62 nato brass
cci 200's
40.5 gr varget
168gr AMAX
2.198 ogive seating depth / ~ about 2.809 coal


.397" + .613" + .910" + .738" + .806" + 1.030" = 4.494 / 6 = .749 average over 6 groupings @ 5shots each / 30 total bullets:

Best group was .397":

My rifle, 20"CL BARREL, LMT MWS 7.62:

My reloads / bullets used:

 

[33shooter]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Oh I'll play. Once my glass gets here I'm betting my OBR can do that.

 

[macman2564]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Good shooting! I will try my hand at this tomorrow. Although it will be with a T1 micro and no bipod! Did I mention with factory ammo!

 

[USMAGator]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Nice shootin, Elfster! I'm looking forward to next weekend to see about tightening mine up some. Those are some nice looking groups and a sexy stick for sure. Those LMT's are impressive with the CL barrels. Have you had a chance to shoot one of the SS barrels to see how they compare?

 

[elfster1234]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Not yet brother. Be honest with you I'm totally impressed with the CL and I really don't see the need for the SS right now. As of right now I'm totally happy with my current set up and my current go to load... Sheesshh, giving all my secrets away here. Maybe I should take down my reload info!! LOL JK

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMAGator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice shootin, Elfster! I'm looking forward to next weekend to see about tightening mine up some. Those are some nice looking groups and a sexy stick for sure. Those LMT's are impressive with the CL barrels. Have you had a chance to shoot one of the SS barrels to see how they compare? </div></div>

 

[elfster1234]

Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

BTW, I just added a past leaders on the original post. So you are still up on the OP (and always will be) for your hard work!! Get up another target and kick me out of the running will ya! WTG bro!

Elf

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMAGator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice shootin, Elfster! I'm looking forward to next weekend to see about tightening mine up some. Those are some nice looking groups and a sexy stick for sure. Those LMT's are impressive with the CL barrels. Have you had a chance to shoot one of the SS barrels to see how they compare? </div></div>

 

[coues7]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Tag for later

 

[elfster1234]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

BTW, I just changed one of the rules. Calipers only, no rulers. I got a feeling some of these guys with GAP's and OBR's are going to be battling it out between .05 of an inch,,,, so calipers only... no caliper measurements, then no go!! Sorry, but I think you all understand. If you don't have calipers, then go buy some as they are only $20 bucks!!

 

[Hookman]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Oh this looks like it can be a lot of fun. Time to take out the ole M1A Super Match to see what she can do.

 

[6.5x61Super]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

I'm IN....just have to finish my AR Build!

 

[RufDog]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

Those are some good groups so far.

 

[clmayfield]

Re: The AR, 6 groups, 5shots each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!

I love these challenges! Those half inch all day long gas guns are looking a lot harder to come by!

BTW... this is some good shooting here. It is tougher to actually consistently shoot a bunch of small 5-shot groups than it is to brag about it on the Internet. It takes some cojones to post actual real world results.

Man, I could have some better groups if I just called my fliers "sighters."