so, i have a savage 10 fp, bought it a while ago to create my version of a long range gun, plus have a good solid rifle. bought a new bolt handle, had it threaded, plus an aftermarket recoil lug added. bedded it into a B&C stock, got a weaver 20 moa rail, and then bought a vortex pst ffp 6-24 off that got mounted in some warne tactical steel 30mm rings. all teh components that i thought would equal a good long range gun for me to learn and improve my shooting on.
the problem: the first time i tried to sight the gun in it seemed to "pattern" (we're talking 6-8" at 100 yds) with 168 gr SMK's that were moa in another .308, plus the windage knob of the scope was bottomed out in one direction. i scratched my head and cussed a bit. went home took it apart to find that the aftermarket recoil lug sat higher than the reciever, and the scope base was not fully seating on the action, plus with some shiny spots on the lug, and base you could tell the parts were moving around.
fast forward to yesterday: after machining the front of the rail to clear the lug (very little material had to be removed) i bedded the rail using a skim coat of devcon. went to the range to try and get it sighted in to do some load workup. now the windage knob is still bottomed out in one direction, and the elevation knob is bottomed out in the down position (and its still hitting 12-16" high at 100yds. now i know that a 20 moa rail moves the POI up in relation to POA, but i thought generally a scope, especially one with a 30mm tube would have enough travel to still zero at 100? i mounted the vortex to my bolt action .223 and it is fine. zeroed it in just a few shots, tracks fine and still have plenty of adjustment in all 4 directions when at zero.
so that leaves me with: the gun is messed up, or the base is Fed. took everything back apart, scraped the devcon off the action and after inspecting i found that the top of the action isn't straight, i can't imagine this being normal, but i also don't think its the only source of my problems.
i'm going to put a standard base on the gun, and see what that does for my issues, then hopefully i'll have a better idea if the gun, base or both are at fault
thanks for reading my book and for any help/input
the straight edges in the pics are touching at the front and rear of the action. one is ground aluminum plate, the other is a pair of SPI calipers FYI, both are easily straight within a few thousandths
the problem: the first time i tried to sight the gun in it seemed to "pattern" (we're talking 6-8" at 100 yds) with 168 gr SMK's that were moa in another .308, plus the windage knob of the scope was bottomed out in one direction. i scratched my head and cussed a bit. went home took it apart to find that the aftermarket recoil lug sat higher than the reciever, and the scope base was not fully seating on the action, plus with some shiny spots on the lug, and base you could tell the parts were moving around.
fast forward to yesterday: after machining the front of the rail to clear the lug (very little material had to be removed) i bedded the rail using a skim coat of devcon. went to the range to try and get it sighted in to do some load workup. now the windage knob is still bottomed out in one direction, and the elevation knob is bottomed out in the down position (and its still hitting 12-16" high at 100yds. now i know that a 20 moa rail moves the POI up in relation to POA, but i thought generally a scope, especially one with a 30mm tube would have enough travel to still zero at 100? i mounted the vortex to my bolt action .223 and it is fine. zeroed it in just a few shots, tracks fine and still have plenty of adjustment in all 4 directions when at zero.
so that leaves me with: the gun is messed up, or the base is Fed. took everything back apart, scraped the devcon off the action and after inspecting i found that the top of the action isn't straight, i can't imagine this being normal, but i also don't think its the only source of my problems.
i'm going to put a standard base on the gun, and see what that does for my issues, then hopefully i'll have a better idea if the gun, base or both are at fault
thanks for reading my book and for any help/input
the straight edges in the pics are touching at the front and rear of the action. one is ground aluminum plate, the other is a pair of SPI calipers FYI, both are easily straight within a few thousandths