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10MM Reloading

KHOOKS

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Do most of you find that most store bought ammo for the 10mm is very mild. I started reloading some rounds and my middle of the road loads (as for as charge) with 180gr bullets. All seamed alot hotter than the store bought rounds I had been firing.

Glock 20c

Also what are a few good hunting load for the 10mm I can try out.
 
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Most 10mm that is store bought is very mild. You will have to get house loads like double tap or corbon to get anything near the original performance or the cartridge. I have loaded some pretty smoking loads in my 610. I do not know how well they would work in an auto loader since I load long. I will see if I can find some data latter tonight.
 
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I got a box of Hornady 180 xtp bullets I loaded with blue dot not sure the grain weight right now but it was right up the middle of min./max. in my Hornady reloading manual for that bullet. Just seemed way hotter than the Rem umc stuff I'd shot. I bought a few hundred rounds of Corbon 180 stuff. I havn't shot any yet to compare the difference. The Corbon stuff is marked 1993 I think. Should be a better comparison I think to the reloads.
 
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I posted about 2 dozen HOT HOT HOT 10mm loads in the reloading subforum on here. 135-200gr bullets with several different powders.

Your stock 20c is probably going to need a recoil spring replacement if you try to shoot anything hotter than about 200gr @ 1250 fps.

The glock chamber is only partially supported, if you want to really wring it out (makes those middle of the road loads look sissy) you need to get a fully supported chamber barrel from someone like LWD (cust srvc is awesome) or Barsto, and get a heavier recoil spring.

FWIW those loads that I posted require a 20lb recoil spring per the advice of Mike McNett

If you want a good load to drop a deer with this year I use 200 XTP's with 9.8gr of Blue Dot in a stock 20. It's 0.2gr below where the stock recoil spring bottoms out against the frame and it goes 1250 fps avg MV. from the completely stock pistol.
 
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What are you calling middle of the road?
I am loading a 180gr load to 1400 fps in a glock 20 with a LW barrel.

For those in the know, at what point should I be replacing the recoil spring. I can pretty much feel it bottom out in my hand. What should I be going to and what benefits will I enjoy?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KHOOKS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I say middle of the road. I mean in the middle of the min./max. load out of my Hornady reloading manual. No chrony so I don't know the Mv. </div></div>

You can load them up until 1 of 2 (or both things) happen.

1) The recoil becomes very sharp and the brass starts flying about 20-30 feet or more instead of the normal 5foot ejection distance. This means that the slide is bottoming on the recoil spring, which imparts very large impact loads into the slide stops and the frame. This is why the 10mm batters pistols to death if you're not loading for it properly.

2) You get a severely smiled brass from the unsupported Glock chamber. This is also referred to as a "glock smile" or a "belly", it looks like a semi-circular bulge that runs about 30% of the way around the case from the feed ramp.

The cure for these two things are

1) Back down the loads
2) Put a heavier recoil spring in the pistol.

I opted for Cure #2 and I get the 200XTP's around 1250fps and the 155's are almost 1500 fps.



Clearly you need to work up to these levels, but you don't need a chronograph to do it.

You need to load some ladder tests up in 0.1gr increments, 3 rounds at a time for a particular bullet.

If you have Blue Dot from anything more than about 2001 it's slower than what you buy now. If you have old load data (which it sounds like) from a manual before then you need to be careful.

The older Alliant Data that I have from the early 1990's says that 9.5gr-10.8gr is the BD range in the 10mm with 200gr jacketed bullets.

I started at 9.5 and by 10.0 I was bottoming out. I backed it down to 9.8gr to be safe in the stock pistol.

Bottom line is that the new Blue Dot seems to be faster compared to what was acceptable 10-15 years ago.
 
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My blue dot and my Hornady reloading manual where purchased last year. The Hornady manual is the 7TH edition. I think the newest one by them out.

I didn't get indication of the loads being to hot brass looked ok. I have done much with loading for the 10mm as I don't have alot of brass yet. Just trying to put together some ideas.

I may go ahead the get a guide rod and 20# spring. Would Wolff spring and guide rod be ok or should I go Lonewolf stuff.
 
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I have Wolff guide rods and springs my G20. I got everything from Midway.

I'm using a 20lb spring in the 20 and I just use Win Silvertip PD ammo for the G29 as carry ammo for liability reasons. It's lighter than my reloads, but for high stress situations where the ranges are short the stuff is still hotter than a 45acp and way hotter than any 40 ammo on the shelf but it keeps the recoil easily manageble for me. If I can't hit anything after the first shot then I shouldn't be shooting, slightly lighter loads means more hits for me under fast conditions, so that's the other reason I don't touch the G29.

No attorney can accuse me of making "extra deadly" ammo or modifications to the pistol.

Deer/Alligators/Bear/Pigs don't have attorneys and the 20 is a better hunting setup than the 29, so I use whatever I want in that.
 
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Yeah, I follow the same rules for CCW factory gun and factory ammo. I havn't carried the Glock 20 after I bought myself a Springfield TRP last year. It's been on my side ever since after making sure there wasn't no problems with it. I would like to build the G20 into one of the longslide like someone had posted awhile back (lonewolf). Put I do want to take a deer with it. Had a chance last year. Had the gun on my side and the ol'30-30 tried to get around on her with the rifle she spooked. She was lest than 30 feet from the base of the tree. I think I could of took her with the pistol if I'd just tried. I could of one armed the shot and not had to move like getting around for a rifle shot.
 
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Anything loaded in 10mm auto will kill a deer at 30 feet. A 22LR will do the job at that range if you shoot it in the head.

Sucks you didn't get the shot off with the 30-30, the 10mm is more than enough in any flavor to do what you want to do with it. I like the way the 200's penetrate so I carry those around with me in the woods when I have the G20 on me.
 
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Yeah, right. Well it's no big deal. I think I got her about 3 days later. Facing shot with the 30-30 150gr core-lok centered just under chin thru neck broke spine just a few inches past base of skull. She never moved just kinda stood up on hind legs and fell in her steps. She never know what hit her.