Gunsmithing 1911 ejector - Follow Up

[Hogshooter]

Question for you guys. I picked up a stainless Enhanced Compat Commander recently and I need to replace the ejector. I looks like it has been broken off. This pistol should have the extended ejector but the one thats in it is the length of the standard short one. I say it looks to be broken because the angled edge is very rough and jagged like it was originally the extended one and was snapped off. The pin holding it in is not a roll pin but a solid one. With the correct size punch, how tight should this pin be when I remove it as I don't want to take the chance of mushrooming the end ? I am surmising that it should come out from left to right. I have ordered a new ejector and pin from Brownells which should be here within the next couple of days. I have a mill at work to cut the notch in the new ejector....thanks

 

[Bronco]

Re: 1911 ejector

Yep, out left to right, in right to left. They can be a little tight if they pull down on the ejector when the pin is put in. Couple good wacks will get it. To keep from marring the finish on the frame use a razor blade or other similar substance to pry against when removing the old one. Some ejectors have a slot to facilitate prying the old one out, if so an easy process.

 

[BOLTRIPPER]

Re: 1911 ejector

hey bro......sound like your nomenclature is all wabi sabi.....what you ask about is a EXTRACTOR......



the ejector is a fixed thingie mounted on the serial numbered frame.....its staked in.......just sayin



ok i re-read the post......and i read around you....sorry.

 

[Hogshooter]

Re: 1911 ejector

Thanks for the reply. Hopefully it will pop right out once I get the pin removed since I can wiggle it a little presently. I have heard Springfield puts a little locktight on theirs when they install it, hopefully Colt doesn't.

 

[RMPSTRAT]

Re: 1911 ejector

I have yet to see a Colt ejector that had any loctite. Springfield uses green loctite due to the fact that many of their ejectors are not pinned

 

[mmtuning]

Re: 1911 ejector

Just cut the extractor off with a dremel tool, polish the nub and go on with life. Real men shoot double feed style. lol. Some good old fashioned rigging and rolling. Im just kidding. Was imitating someone else on here with the dremel tool mojo going on. Just tap it out from the left and use a thin piece of metal to pry against it while removing.

 

[Hogshooter]

Re: 1911 ejector

lol..got it out with no issues. now just waiting for the new one to come in,cut the notch and install.

 

[pfcustom]

Re: 1911 ejector

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hogshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lol..got it out with no issues. now just waiting for the new one to come in,cut the notch and install. </div></div>HOG: A little trick that I learned installing ejectors:

After removing the old extractor. I clean out the holes in the frame with the proper size drill (hand twist) Put a little dykem blue or magic marker on the front pin. Install it in the frame. Take either the punch you knocked the pin out with or a drill bit the same size as the pin hole. Mark the ejector with the punch or drill. Remove the ejector and you should have a clear mark where the notch should go.

Take a triangle file and carefully file a V notch in the ejector pin. File a little, put it back in the frame, check the depth with the cross or locking pin, file a bit more. Leave it a bit tight to snug everything up when you drive the pin home.

If you try to make the pin notch half moon or round to try to match the pin size it is REAL easy to overdo it and ruin the ejector (of have to use press fit (green) locktite or epoxy on the pin to keep it tight)

For what it's worth, I have never seen a Springfield without a cross pin for the extractor.

I hope this helps:

Phil

 

[Hogshooter]

Re: 1911 ejector

Phil, thanks for the tip. I was going to use a little dyekim to mark the position and then cut the notch on a mill at work. The small triangular file idea does sound better though. Looking at the notch on the old ejector, I do see how it would be real easy to go too deep with the mill.

 

[mmtuning]

Re: 1911 ejector

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pfcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hogshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lol..got it out with no issues. now just waiting for the new one to come in,cut the notch and install. </div></div>HOG: A little trick that I learned installing ejectors:

After removing the old extractor. I clean out the holes in the frame with the proper size drill (hand twist) Put a little dykem blue or magic marker on the front pin. Install it in the frame. Take either the punch you knocked the pin out with or a drill bit the same size as the pin hole. Mark the ejector with the punch or drill. Remove the ejector and you should have a clear mark where the notch should go.

Take a triangle file and carefully file a V notch in the ejector pin. File a little, put it back in the frame, check the depth with the cross or locking pin, file a bit more. Leave it a bit tight to snug everything up when you drive the pin home.

If you try to make the pin notch half moon or round to try to match the pin size it is REAL easy to overdo it and ruin the ejector (of have to use press fit (green) locktite or epoxy on the pin to keep it tight)

For what it's worth, I have never seen a Springfield without a cross pin for the extractor.

I hope this helps:

Phil </div></div>
Good tip Phil, pretty tricky!

 

[Hogshooter]

Re: 1911 ejector - Folow up

Ok you 1911 gurus. I installed a new ejector, Wilson Extended version. During the testing stage the empties were kicking out much further, about 6- 8 foot to by 4:00 oclock but some a few came back and caught me betwixt the blinkers. This would not be cool in the long run. I checked the tension on the extractor by using the method of sliding a loaded round under it with the slide removed and with the round in center position the round would not drop out when inverted and shaken lightly. Sliding the round down just a fraction and it would release and drop. Cleaned up the old standard broken ejector edge and reinstalled. Ejects clearing the weapon and landing 3 foot away at my 3:00 - 4:00 o'clock with a single bouncing off the top of my head.. I have ordered another standard ejector just for grins to see it that changes things. I am running a Wolf 18.5 lb. Commander length spring with a shock buff. Fairly warm 185 gr. reloads (950 - 1000 fps). I am thinking maybe the slide velocity is too fast and empties are hitting the side and being thrown back at me. Any ideas ?

 

[RADcustom]

Re: 1911 ejector - Folow up

Has your ejection port been lowered?

 

[Hogshooter]

Re: 1911 ejector - Folow up

Yes, ejection port is lowered. It is a factory Colt Enhanced Combat Commander.

 

[pfcustom]

Re: 1911 ejector - Folow up

HOG: Did you alter that angle of the forward edge of the ejector or the length?
I usually file the angle of the forward or leading edge of the ejector at approximately the same angle as the magazine well. Break the top edge and the left (outer) edge just just slightly. Then I file a bit of an angle filed on the leading edge angled toward the port.
It seems that the cases do bounce around and hit you in the head if they hit the ejector just right.
Can you eject loaded rounds? If not or if a loaded round tends to hang up when slowly ejected by hand, that would indicate the ejector is too long.
As far as spring rate; each load should demand it's own spring rate. If the ejected brass is only a foot or two from you, to heavy a spring, 10 feet out and heavy recoil...too light.
All things being equal, consistent loads, proper recoil spring, good extractor tension and ejector set up, a 1911 should just about put every round in a 2-3 circle.
I hope this helps...obviously I kinda like the 1911 and yes JMB is on of my hero's!!
Good luck with it.

Phil

 

[Hogshooter]

Re: 1911 ejector - Folow up

Phil,
Thanks for the info. No, I did not touch the new ejector at all. It is a extended ejector like Colt puts on their Commander and Officers guns. THe one that was in it lookd like a standard length one with a jagged edge. I am assuming that it also was an extended ejector when new but was just broken off. The empties are traveling out about 5-6' at the 3:00 - 4:00 o'clock position with a few coming straight back. I ordered a standard length ejector just to try since it will have a clean edge. Unfired rounds clear the port just fine when hand cycled rapidly.

Rick

 

[pfcustom]

Re: 1911 ejector - Folow up

HOG: OK, then it sounds like you are on the right track...some extended ejectors are made long the be "gunsmith" fit. If left too long it is difficult or sometimes next to impossible to clear a live round out of the weapon.
Keep us posted on what you find out.
Take Care and Happy shootin'

Phil