2011 9mm Carry Alternatives

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Been carrying a 1911 in .45 ACP for about 20 yrs. Back then 2011s were strictly raceguns. Seems like some manufacturers got the reliability ironed out, so I thought I wanted one if they’re not too fat to carry, but holy shit they’re expensive. And they may be too fat to carry. I haven’t seen one of the newer ones in person yet.

So, alternatives? I want the same manual of arms. I’m used to the thumb safety and there’s muscle memory tied up in there. It’s weird if it ain’t there, and it needs to be in the same place, with the same motion. I figure since I’m considering joining the 21st century, I’d also like to have the option for a red dot.

I’ve been looking mostly at two pistols, one new, and one not so 21st century:
Sig M18 and these HiPower clones that have been introduced in the last few years. Some have optics cuts, some would have to be milled, and I don’t know how any of these clones are in terms of reliability. So I’m leaning Sig right now if the trigger ain’t shitty. I held a M17 in the store and it felt ok, but they wouldn’t allow dry firing.

Any suggestions?
 
Just buy a Staccato C2, or P if you can accomodate a slightly larger pistol. Remove the magwell if that part is too big
+1

Or if width is a concern you can look into the Staccato C or CS. Also check out Bul Armory, have heard they're making some pretty good stuff lately, cannot attest to their durability/reliability though.
 
Been carrying a 1911 in .45 ACP for about 20 yrs. Back then 2011s were strictly raceguns. Seems like some manufacturers got the reliability ironed out, so I thought I wanted one if they’re not too fat to carry, but holy shit they’re expensive. And they may be too fat to carry. I haven’t seen one of the newer ones in person yet.

So, alternatives? I want the same manual of arms. I’m used to the thumb safety and there’s muscle memory tied up in there. It’s weird if it ain’t there, and it needs to be in the same place, with the same motion. I figure since I’m considering joining the 21st century, I’d also like to have the option for a red dot.

I’ve been looking mostly at two pistols, one new, and one not so 21st century:
Sig M18 and these HiPower clones that have been introduced in the last few years. Some have optics cuts, some would have to be milled, and I don’t know how any of these clones are in terms of reliability. So I’m leaning Sig right now if the trigger ain’t shitty. I held a M17 in the store and it felt ok, but they wouldn’t allow dry firing.

Any suggestions?

The M17 and M18 are going to be a lot different than what you are used to, specifically they are striker fired SAO guns with a safety.
The trigger is going to feel like mush to you if you are used to a nice 1911 or 2011
That being said, you can customize them endlessly, put in the upgraded trigger face, change out to the metal grip module etc, and you can wind up with a decent unit.

However something like a CZ75 platform pistol would give you a double stack in a platform that is very familiar to what you are used to.
You will need to either get the upgraded custom models or send it out to CZ Custom or Cajun Gun Works if you want it to be really nice and smooth.
Just make sure you get the version setup for safety and not decock on the lever.
 
There is also the Beretta 92X Performance model which has the safety back where it should be, but it is a rather huge heavy pistol.

H&K has the P30 line which has a similar safety, but not quite the same, but may work well for your purposes if you don't want to go the CZ route.
 
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Been carrying a 1911 in .45 ACP for about 20 yrs. Back then 2011s were strictly raceguns. Seems like some manufacturers got the reliability ironed out, so I thought I wanted one if they’re not too fat to carry, but holy shit they’re expensive. And they may be too fat to carry. I haven’t seen one of the newer ones in person yet.

So, alternatives? I want the same manual of arms. I’m used to the thumb safety and there’s muscle memory tied up in there. It’s weird if it ain’t there, and it needs to be in the same place, with the same motion. I figure since I’m considering joining the 21st century, I’d also like to have the option for a red dot.

I’ve been looking mostly at two pistols, one new, and one not so 21st century:
Sig M18 and these HiPower clones that have been introduced in the last few years. Some have optics cuts, some would have to be milled, and I don’t know how any of these clones are in terms of reliability. So I’m leaning Sig right now if the trigger ain’t shitty. I held a M17 in the store and it felt ok, but they wouldn’t allow dry firing.

Any suggestions?
Ive tried a couple different 2011s and always find myself going back to my Sig 229 Legion SAO RX. I personally feel its a better carry gun
 
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Ive tried a couple different 2011s and always find myself going back to my Sig 229 Legion SAO RX. I personally feel its a better carry gun
Is this coming from a reliability standpoint, ability to conceal, or just preference?
The M17 and M18 are going to be a lot different than what you are used to, specifically they are striker fired SAO guns with a safety.
The trigger is going to feel like mush to you if you are used to a nice 1911 or 2011
Thanks for that info. I’ve done Glock and M&P as duty weapons before. Is the Sig worse than those? I’ve seen some drop in triggers for them, but I’m not sure how much of an improvement they are.

H&K has the P30 line which has a similar safety, but not quite the same
I do like H&K. They build a rock-solid pistol, but for a carry weapon, if it has a paddle mag release it’s probably a no-go for me.
 
Is this coming from a reliability standpoint, ability to conceal, or just preference?

Thanks for that info. I’ve done Glock and M&P as duty weapons before. Is the Sig worse than those? I’ve seen some drop in triggers for them, but I’m not sure how much of an improvement they are.


I do like H&K. They build a rock-solid pistol, but for a carry weapon, if it has a paddle mag release it’s probably a no-go for me.

You really need to find somewhere that will let you dry fire the M17 or M18, I'm not sure why the local store wouldn't let you, that's pretty much a standard part of testing any center fire pistol or rifle.

The feel is distinctly different from other pistols.
 
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You really need to find somewhere that will let you dry fire the M17 or M18, I'm not sure why the local store wouldn't let you, that's pretty much a standard part of testing any center fire pistol or rifle.

The feel is distinctly different from other pistols.
Academy. They keep trigger locks on all their handguns now. 👎
 
If you don't mind the weight the sig 229 is a fantastic and reliable pistol. I have a 229 elite and a 228 (M118) and the 228 is a little easier carry but neither are as easy as my EDC- Kimber 1911
 
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Is this coming from a reliability standpoint, ability to conceal, or just preference?

Thanks for that info. I’ve done Glock and M&P as duty weapons before. Is the Sig worse than those? I’ve seen some drop in triggers for them, but I’m not sure how much of an improvement they are.


I do like H&K. They build a rock-solid pistol, but for a carry weapon, if it has a paddle mag release it’s probably a no-go for me.
Its definitely more reliable than the Staccato C I had and easier to work on if there is a problem. Accuracy was about the same but the SC was super finicky while the Sig eats anything. I also tried a Prodigy which was absolute garbage....now compared to a true 1911.......I prefer the 1911
 
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Buy a SIG M18; get a Brouwer 1811 grip; and a trigger job with a GrayGuns trigger, Apex trigger bar, -25% sear springs, and +10% trigger return spring. Robert Burke in Texas and Bruce Gray in Oregon are the current go-to guys.

You'll have a pistol with familiar 1911 feel, an excellent trigger (as opposed to the factory trigger that breaks like a mooshy spray gun or stapler), and red-dot capable at a fraction of a Staccato or Prodigy.

DSC_7905-Edit-800x534.jpg


Or you can wait until Cosaint and EAA Girsan ship their 2311s. They're stating $999 MSRP -- and there will always be somebody offering sales during the major holidays. Their magazines are already shipping.

They're also the only ones scheduled to offer .40s and .45s.
 
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Have a Sig M18 that I really like but as others have said, will be far different from a 1911. The RDO sight picture comes completely naturally to me on that gun. I always see the dot. I also have a Beretta LTT Elite with RDO cut that I'd take a hard look at. Amazing trigger, super accurate, proven design. They make a centurion and compact if full size is not what you want. Mags are cheap and they run and run and run. Easy to take down and clean too.
 
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Or you can wait until Cosaint and EAA Girsan ship their 2311s.
Didn’t know they were. I’ve been kind of eyeing the Girsan/EAA BHP clones, but I’ve never bought one of these Turkish guns, and I was kind of leery about quality/reliability.
That receiver/grip module on your Sig looks like it would definitely make it more to my liking than the factory one.
 
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Been carrying a 1911 in .45 ACP for about 20 yrs. Back then 2011s were strictly raceguns. Seems like some manufacturers got the reliability ironed out, so I thought I wanted one if they’re not too fat to carry, but holy shit they’re expensive. And they may be too fat to carry. I haven’t seen one of the newer ones in person yet.

So, alternatives? I want the same manual of arms. I’m used to the thumb safety and there’s muscle memory tied up in there. It’s weird if it ain’t there, and it needs to be in the same place, with the same motion. I figure since I’m considering joining the 21st century, I’d also like to have the option for a red dot.

I’ve been looking mostly at two pistols, one new, and one not so 21st century:
Sig M18 and these HiPower clones that have been introduced in the last few years. Some have optics cuts, some would have to be milled, and I don’t know how any of these clones are in terms of reliability. So I’m leaning Sig right now if the trigger ain’t shitty. I held a M17 in the store and it felt ok, but they wouldn’t allow dry firing.

Any suggestions?


I carried a 3" 1911, then decided to try striker fired on my way to a 2011, bought a Wilson Combat P320 Carry and had the manual safety added.
The Wilson P320 now has a parker mountain machine barrel and double port compensator, which makes this thing insanely flat shooting, but huge.
I also built another P320, it has the same grayguns competition trigger as the Wilson, it has the manual safety as well, sub-compact slide with the parker mountain machine barrel and micro compensator.

I also have a Bul Armory Ultralight 2011 with the 3.25" barrel. This gun wears the Holosun EPS Carry and it fits with the factory plate direct, so it sits very very low, they really have a nice factory optic cut.

If you want a 2011, Bul Armory sells direct now, $1480 for the 3.25" barreled 2011. Thing is very light, really handy, but with light and handy comes a bit of snap, though I'll note, not as bad as a guy would think, she runs nice for the size. Here's the link to Bul Armory's site https://www.usa.bularmory.com/online-store/EDC-&-DUTY-c138236118

If you want a 2011 carry gun, it's a great option, I've even ran the thing in an Urban Carry G3 holster, drawn while sitting is no issue.

Buy MBX magazines for it, mine have run everything perfectly, the factory recommends 124gr rounds and lighter, I run 147gr fmj flat nose as my practice rounds, I carry it with the Hornady critical duty 135 +p, I've shot other 135s and 147s out of it.
Run the MBX magazines and no issues.

Factory mags and the new Mec Gar mag and I've had some failure to feeds, mind you in that first 500rds.

But, again, MBX mags have been flawless with everything, always.


Anyways, I mentioned the P320s above because I, like you, wanted that thumb safety, and while they are not a perfect translation of the 1911/2011 thumb safeties, I have found absolutely no issues using them and the 2011 back to back. They work fine and muscle memory is there.

I wish someone made an aftermarket safety lever with a wider flat for the P320s, something like a damn 1911 and they'd likely be exactly the same damn thing.

Anyways, I do find the safeties to work perfectly with my muscle memory.

Though if you're a 1911 guy, you'll always have an itchy asshole if you don't get a 2011, it'll always be there making you wonder.

So, the Bul is a great way to enter the arena.

Were I to do it again I'd get a Staccato C2 and have the Ghengis Comp done to it, after shooting compensated guns I've lost my taste for guns that aren't. One could also get the Bul Ultralight with the compensator, though I think it actually comes out a little longer than the C2 would, which is why I'd go that route.

Anyways, the Bul is a great, very fast little gun, quick target transitions, light, shoots well.
 
IMHO, having shot USPSA since the early 2000's and having owned more than a few, a 2011 for a carry gun you're going to bet your ass on is a terrible idea, that is for the movies and YouTube tactical douchbags.

I'm a 1911 aficionado, love them, but they're not ideal as carry gun or as insurance for staying out of a casket because from time to time even the best ones can be finicky, stray from .45ACP and their reliability gets worse, make them shorter than 5", they get even worse, make them into a fancy double stack with wonky mags that aren't right even after 25+ years, they get... you get the idea.

Get a Glock 17/19 and have an RMR put on it, done. For protection, as a tool, we live in a Glock world. Save the nice guns for nice days at the range (or in case of The Walking Dead).

Sigs are pricey trash, they're the Harley Sportster 883 to hold guys over until they get a CZ Shadow. It's sad our boys and girls have to carry those Sig sidearms (that may go off on their own) due to some big military contract payday BS.
 
Sigs are pricey trash, they're the Harley Sportster 883 to hold guys over until they get a CZ Shadow. It's sad our boys and girls have to carry those Sig sidearms (that may go off on their own) due to some big military contract payday BS.
The M18 isn't pricey and it has a safety. Not the same as the regular P320. It's a duty trigger so yeah, it's not going to be anything like a Shadow. Shot a Shadow2 and there's no way in hell I'd carry that gun with that trigger. Shot amazingly flat but I couldn't wait to put it down. As a race gun, undoubtedly great. I'd take the LTT over it for carry or the zombie apocalypse. I've shot a Staccato P and a C (not the C2) and thought the C was nice. Didn't put enough rounds through the P to make an assessment but I was definitely intrigued by it. Pretty sure there are some Texas law enforcement agencies that carry the P.

What's the 2011 that's using Sig mags? Oracle Arms. I mean they don't have a fully-functioning website yet but what can go wrong?
 
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My 3" 1911 didn't have any reliability issues, ran Wilson Combat magazines.

My 3.25" 2011 doesn't have reliability issues, with MBX magazines.

I won't deny that a guy needs to pay a bit more attention to these styles of firearm, but it isn't like it isn't doable, and a guy needs to pay attention to firearm function anyway, checking magazine function, safety function and so on...

There's just something about 1911s/2011s, my P320s shoot unreal well, super easy to shoot, both have the Grayguns Competition triggers, they are reliable and easy.

Doesn't negate how great it is having the 2011 in hand. Something I didn't note, but about the P320 triggers, I don't find them a hindrance to accuracy at all, being mindful that I have aftermarket triggers...

But they feel like a toy when you dry fire them, I don't find them to feel like that during live fire at all, I don't feel like the dry fire gives the correct representation.

Anyways, I don't feel like the triggers in my P320s are hurting me in any way vs. the trigger in my 2011, regardless what dry fire may tell me. I don't have any hesitancy carrying my 2011, and that little Bul is easy to carry, really easy, though I don't mind carrying my P320s either...
 
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If that’s what you want the Wilson EDC9 and Staccatos really are the answer. No they’re not cheap but neither are good 1911’s.

And no an M18 isn’t the same just because it has a thumb safety, they are soooo far from a 1911. I went down that rabbit hole too though, I was deeply invested in over a dozen M17’s, M18’s, and P365/P365XL and over a hundred mags for them in total. I liked them until they started showing what pieces of shit they are just like always happens when I give Sig another try. Fuck that platform.
 
IMHO, having shot USPSA since the early 2000's and having owned more than a few, a 2011 for a carry gun you're going to bet your ass on is a terrible idea, that is for the movies and YouTube tactical douchbags.

I'm a 1911 aficionado, love them, but they're not ideal as carry gun or as insurance for staying out of a casket because from time to time even the best ones can be finicky, stray from .45ACP and their reliability gets worse, make them shorter than 5", they get even worse, make them into a fancy double stack with wonky mags that aren't right even after 25+ years, they get... you get the idea.
Man I have never had any true reliability issues, but your point is taken. A 1911 does require a little more attention and care to make sure it runs trouble-free when it needs to. I completely tear mine down at least yearly to check for parts wear, extractor tension, etc. But in all my years of carrying one, shooting pistol courses, POST qualifying, etc, the only thing I can remember that has ever happened to give me pause was failure for the slide to lock back on a few empty mags. Nothing that would’ve prevented functioning, but not right, and no one wants a “click” in a gunfight. It was my fault for not replacing mag springs in a couple of mags that had 15 yrs or so of use. Changed them out and everything was good to go again. Stupid and forgetful on my part, but lesson learned. But that’s it, and mag springs really need to be replaced occasionally on any platform.
I’ve never had any reason to feel sketchy about carrying it other than the capacity and the fact that everything seems to be moving towards RDOs, which were the reasons mainly driving my original post.

I liked them until they started showing what pieces of shit they are just like always happens when I give Sig another try. Fuck that platform.
Damn 🤣
Sounds like there is a Sig backstory here. Hopefully nothing too traumatizing.
 
THIS IS A FRAUD SITE: https://bularmorygunsusa.com/

Just so you're aware, this site is a fraud site, again, Bul Armory does sell direct now, but this isn't their site, this is a fraud site.


You'll notice the typical Fraud payment methods, crypto and shit like that.


Bul Armory's actual Home site is this: https://www.bularmory.com/

And you can go through the steps to get to the USA store, click on USA button, then on that site the store button is in the upper righthand corner.
I also put a direct link in my first post.
Fuck it I'll post the USA link too.
This is the Bul USA website https://www.usa.bularmory.com/.

But just be aware of fraud sites, because I know Bul Armory has even reported that first site I noted in this post and nothing has been done, so we've got to be careful.
 
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THIS IS A FRAUD SITE: https://bularmorygunsusa.com/

Just so you're aware, this site is a fraud site, again, Bul Armory does sell direct now, but this isn't their site, this is a fraud site.


You'll notice the typical Fraud payment methods, crypto and shit like that.


Bul Armory's actual Home site is this: https://www.bularmory.com/

And you can go through the steps to get to the USA store, click on USA button, then on that site the store button is in the upper righthand corner.
I also put a direct link in my first post.
Fuck it I'll post the USA link too.
This is the Bul USA website https://www.usa.bularmory.com/.

But just be aware of fraud sites, because I know Bul Armory has even reported that first site I noted in this post and nothing has been done, so we've got to be careful.
Damn. Thanks for that. I’m sure I’d have figured it out before it ever got to a transaction, but I had not spotted it yet when I was browsing it earlier.
 
Man I have never had any true reliability issues, but your point is taken. A 1911 does require a little more attention and care to make sure it runs trouble-free when it needs to. I completely tear mine down at least yearly to check for parts wear, extractor tension, etc. But in all my years of carrying one, shooting pistol courses, POST qualifying, etc, the only thing I can remember that has ever happened to give me pause was failure for the slide to lock back on a few empty mags. Nothing that would’ve prevented functioning, but not right, and no one wants a “click” in a gunfight. It was my fault for not replacing mag springs in a couple of mags that had 15 yrs or so of use. Changed them out and everything was good to go again. Stupid and forgetful on my part, but lesson learned. But that’s it, and mag springs really need to be replaced occasionally on any platform.
I’ve never had any reason to feel sketchy about carrying it other than the capacity and the fact that everything seems to be moving towards RDOs, which were the reasons mainly driving my original post.

I get it, I've had really good luck with my 1911's, there are plenty of matches and large stretches of time where I didn't have even a hiccup out of mine. But, like a lot of us, I've learned how to look after them and then some... and for the most part, they get treated like the race cars they are.

That said, what I didn't do is: drag them to work every single day, bring them everywhere, in and out of my pants, getting tossed around the truck sometimes, banged into doors and shit, knocked into the seat belt buckle, steering wheel or whatever else getting in and out, filled with lint and dust, and general plain old stupid grime that comes with daily life...

I have a Gen3 G17 that's seen more rounds than every gun combined in most guys' collections + 10x over, knocked around, dropped, left in sweltering hot cars, frozen overnight, a casualty of multiple coffee spill incidents, you name it...

Always goes bang and always rises to the occasion, no matter how badly I treat it and I can detail strip it with a handcuff key in the dark. The fact that it's just an "ugly tool" is part of why it makes a solid carry gun IMHO, a great "daily driver" ... but my "other car" is a 1911/S2 lol.
 
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Wilson EDC X9, SFX9, and Experior.

If that’s what you want the Wilson EDC9 and Staccatos really are the answer. No they’re not cheap but neither are good 1911’s.

These guys hit the nail on the head:

I’ve handled all of the Staccato offerings as well as the WC EDC series. Never shot any, so weigh that appropriately. The Staccatos are too big, for me. Neat, just felt gigantic. The WC EDC X9 is the same size as a GLOCK 19, but fits the hand much better and had 1911-esque controls.

In regard to expensive. Yes, they are. However, once you spend over $2,000 on a firearm, it gets easier to do it, again.
 
Buy a SIG M18; get a Brouwer 1811 grip; and a trigger job with a GrayGuns trigger, Apex trigger bar, -25% sear springs, and +10% trigger return spring. Robert Burke in Texas and Bruce Gray in Oregon are the current go-to guys.

You'll have a pistol with familiar 1911 feel, an excellent trigger (as opposed to the factory trigger that breaks like a mooshy spray gun or stapler), and red-dot capable at a fraction of a Staccato or Prodigy.

DSC_7905-Edit-800x534.jpg


Or you can wait until Cosaint and EAA Girsan ship their 2311s. They're stating $999 MSRP -- and there will always be somebody offering sales during the major holidays. Their magazines are already shipping.

They're also the only ones scheduled to offer .40s and .45s.


Hello, I've been eyeing the Brouwer grip and already have a GrayGuns flat trigger(not the kit) and I just picked up the Apex bar. I'm very interested in the set up you outlined. Did you have to modify the trigger bar in any way? It's a bit thicker than OEM so it causes slight friction with the standard sig trigger but with the GG trigger, it is immovable as it's too thick. I'm wondering if I have to sand it down a bit.

Thank you for your time!
 
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These guys hit the nail on the head:

I’ve handled all of the Staccato offerings as well as the WC EDC series. Never shot any, so weigh that appropriately. The Staccatos are too big, for me. Neat, just felt gigantic. The WC EDC X9 is the same size as a GLOCK 19, but fits the hand much better and had 1911-esque controls.

In regard to expensive. Yes, they are. However, once you spend over $2,000 on a firearm, it gets easier to do it, again.
I've shot the Staccato C as it's available for rental at my local range. Very nice but was single stack. Quite compact, smaller than a Sig M18. I'd imagine the CS or C2 would be ideal if the P is too large.
 
These guys hit the nail on the head:

I’ve handled all of the Staccato offerings as well as the WC EDC series. Never shot any, so weigh that appropriately. The Staccatos are too big, for me. Neat, just felt gigantic. The WC EDC X9 is the same size as a GLOCK 19, but fits the hand much better and had 1911-esque controls.

In regard to expensive. Yes, they are. However, once you spend over $2,000 on a firearm, it gets easier to do it, again.
I have various p320 configurations and an Experior and for sure the latter will be more what you are used to. It’s definitely a lot “nicer” too. On the other hand I came at it from the other direction and thought I am working at it still find the striker fired p320 more comfortable than the 1911/2011. I think it is the absence of the safety versus the cocked and locked. Agree you may want to work on the trigger on the p320 I got a couple from WC that were tuned.
 
And what is worse the next time isn’t 2k and the time after that is higher than the one before and so on
Seriously. I went to the range to sight my RDO's in with a subsonic load and a suppressor. I had my M18 and LTT Elite. Guys next to me were running high $$$ race gun 1911's, maybe 2011's, didn't take a hard look. But fuck they were fast. I mean there was no way the M18 could do that. The LTT wasn't far behind but I didn't have the mad skills the guys next to me did. I actually considered dropping coin on a 2011 at that point. Came to my senses and decided to just practice more for now. Definitely considering a full trigger upgrade package for the M18 now.
 
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Seriously. I went to the range to sight my RDO's in with a subsonic load and a suppressor. I had my M18 and LTT Elite. Guys next to me were running high $$$ race gun 1911's, maybe 2011's, didn't take a hard look. But fuck they were fast. I mean there was no way the M18 could do that. The LTT wasn't far behind but I didn't have the mad skills the guys next to me did. I actually considered dropping coin on a 2011 at that point. Came to my senses and decided to just practice more for now. Definitely considering a full trigger upgrade package for the M18 now.

I wouldn’t waste too much money on the M18. Dumped a ton of money into my P320 and while it shoots great, it’s not near my 2011’s. The Staccato CS looks like a great CCW, throw a Holosun EPS Carry on it and there’s your concealed carry weapon.

Don’t neglect CZ though, they make some great pistols. I have an ancient SP-01 and with some Cajun Gunworks parts, it shoots quite fast. Great trigger.
 
A CGW CZ is a great gun and I regret selling mine, but are the guys on Brian Enos forums still going through trigger springs like candy?
 
A CGW CZ is a great gun and I regret selling mine, but are the guys on Brian Enos forums still going through trigger springs like candy?

IDK if the trigger-spring thing is really an issue anymore, most guys who shoot them a lot know they need to be changed out every ~10k or so as preventative maintenance, the word has been out for a long time now (like 10+ years lol). IMO most of the really hardcore guys mostly kill them through dry-fire when pulling them in DA over and over in their "dry-fire dojos" (garage, basement lol).

Once one goes to either a CZC or CGW trigger pin that doesn't need to be staked, then changing out springs is pretty quick and easy.

While not as simple as a Glock (nothing is), as compared to an H&K, old school "real" Sig, or a Beretta, working on a CZ is easy.

I have an ancient SP-01 and with some Cajun Gunworks parts, it shoots quite fast. Great trigger.

An "ancient" SP-01 with some CGW stuff is still better than like 99% of the other 9mm's on the planet.
 
I love the CZs and have 2 compacts for carry...P01 and a 75D and while I'm not a huge fan of Sig I do have a P365 that I like because of the size. I can carry it in my pocket in a DeSantis pocket holster...lotta mixed reviews on the Wilson Combat grip, personally the WC grip made all the difference for me combined with the Armory Craft WC style pinky extensions makes a great tiny gun.

I have about 800-900 rounds of everything you can think of through the 365 from the shittiest 16c ammo to the $1 plus ammo...from 115g up to 147s and have had zero failures but I do clean and lightly oil every time I shoot it....as with all of my carry guns....I greatly prefer a compact size gun but theres times when the 365 or similar are a better, more convenient option.
 
I love the CZs and have 2 compacts for carry...P01 and a 75D and while I'm not a huge fan of Sig I do have a P365 that I like because of the size. I can carry it in my pocket in a DeSantis pocket holster...lotta mixed reviews on the Wilson Combat grip, personally the WC grip made all the difference for me combined with the Armory Craft WC style pinky extensions makes a great tiny gun.

I have about 800-900 rounds of everything you can think of through the 365 from the shittiest 16c ammo to the $1 plus ammo...from 115g up to 147s and have had zero failures but I do clean and lightly oil every time I shoot it....as with all of my carry guns....I greatly prefer a compact size gun but theres times when the 365 or similar are a better, more convenient option.

You might want to check this grip module out.
It takes the P365 to a whole new level: