21 dot help

johnrice

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attempted the 21 dot drill, never got past untimed fire, so i tried 2 rows of dots untimed, my cold bore hit the cherrypopper.
1st dot hit than the target tells the rest of the story, some shots i called off the opposite side of the dot.
will send video in a momet

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Your form looks good. Fundamentals looked pretty good. Zero might be a click left which is a good thing. Getting the left bullet impacts might be from tensing your shoulder to fight recoil. Be sure your shoulder is relaxed and your body is absorbing the recoil rather then bouncing the rifle off a tense shoulder.
It looks like a magpul stock. By sure you are loading your bipod the same amount every shot.
On the top row, what did you do between shots 3 and 4. It looks like you changed something here. Shot 1 - good. Shot 2 - little left. Shot 3 - oh shit. Change something, readjust position or head placement or cant or bipod load or relaxed your body/shoulder. Shot 4 - back to good. Shot 5 - back to the bad habit. My guess is between shots 3 and 4 you reasjusted your rifle completly. Reset the rear bag and head and body maybe even reloaded the bipod.
What are your thoughts?
 
Your form looks good. Fundamentals looked pretty good. Zero might be a click left which is a good thing. Getting the left bullet impacts might be from tensing your shoulder to fight recoil. Be sure your shoulder is relaxed and your body is absorbing the recoil rather then bouncing the rifle off a tense shoulder.
It looks like a magpul stock. By sure you are loading your bipod the same amount every shot.
On the top row, what did you do between shots 3 and 4. It looks like you changed something here. Shot 1 - good. Shot 2 - little left. Shot 3 - oh shit. Change something, readjust position or head placement or cant or bipod load or relaxed your body/shoulder. Shot 4 - back to good. Shot 5 - back to the bad habit. My guess is between shots 3 and 4 you reasjusted your rifle completly. Reset the rear bag and head and body maybe even reloaded the bipod.
What are your thoughts?
im a 15 year marine vet all my shooting was sling shooting and angled from the rifle. straight behind the rifle is something im working on.
i have been dealing with recoil issues and spotting my impacts, when i shoot my old way i would have drilled the dots, but no recoil control
would not be able to see impact at 400yds or in, i believe a tense shoulder is a high possibility. as for shots between 3 and 4 not sure,
ill be more aware and take notes on my 2nd dot drill. thank you for your time.
 
Your form looks good. Fundamentals looked pretty good. Zero might be a click left which is a good thing. Getting the left bullet impacts might be from tensing your shoulder to fight recoil. Be sure your shoulder is relaxed and your body is absorbing the recoil rather then bouncing the rifle off a tense shoulder.
It looks like a magpul stock. By sure you are loading your bipod the same amount every shot.
On the top row, what did you do between shots 3 and 4. It looks like you changed something here. Shot 1 - good. Shot 2 - little left. Shot 3 - oh shit. Change something, readjust position or head placement or cant or bipod load or relaxed your body/shoulder. Shot 4 - back to good. Shot 5 - back to the bad habit. My guess is between shots 3 and 4 you reasjusted your rifle completly. Reset the rear bag and head and body maybe even reloaded the bipod.
What are your thoughts?
sorry if i latched on to you. heres my 5 dot drill today, much better but a long way to go, difference today from yesterday,
make sure my shoulder was relaxed. yesterday i was pulling the gun pretty hard into my shoulder with a flexed muscle.
today relaxed shoulder and the rifle just kissing the shoulder, not sure if thats correct,
 

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just a rem 700 in .260,
magpul hunter stock
calvin elie 2 stage
Hey hey. We fixed the going to the left issue.
Your Check zero is great so we know the gun is on.

So when we shoot prone we need to slightly load the bipod with our body weight to take the slack out of the system. Are you doing this? Just 3-4 poounds of pressure is all that is needed. Once in the prone move your belt buckle forward to load the bipod with hour body. I am not too familiar with the magpul stocks but I'm guessing it all plastic? If the forearm of the stock flex when you load the bipod you are loading too much. Because it's plastic you'll need to make sure this loading pressure is the same everytime.

Your grip hand's lower 3 finger should be pulling the rifle into you shoulder with almost the same weight as the rifle. Relax your shoulder and only pull with your bicep.

This string of shots looks better. You are in the right place. Consistency will be the key.

Do you lift you head from the stock between shots when you run the bolt?
 
Hey hey. We fixed the going to the left issue.
Your Check zero is great so we know the gun is on.

So when we shoot prone we need to slightly load the bipod with our body weight to take the slack out of the system. Are you doing this? Just 3-4 poounds of pressure is all that is needed. Once in the prone move your belt buckle forward to load the bipod with hour body. I am not too familiar with the magpul stocks but I'm guessing it all plastic? If the forearm of the stock flex when you load the bipod you are loading too much. Because it's plastic you'll need to make sure this loading pressure is the same everytime.

Your grip hand's lower 3 finger should be pulling the rifle into you shoulder with almost the same weight as the rifle. Relax your shoulder and only pull with your bicep.

This string of shots looks better. You are in the right place. Consistency will be the key.

Do you lift you head from the stock between shots when you run the bolt?
do not lift head, that last string, no rear pressure with firing hand, all rear pressure with non firing hand.
to get anywhere close to a 90 deg trigger finger need to grip like the picture.
 

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