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texasleftychef

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In my search for a 22 Finnfire Range, and coming up short, I have come up with a few other ideas that I thought I would run past you guys. I currently shoot a TRG22 and would like to use this for a trainer and possibly a competition rifle and most importantly to beat up my dad's 10/22 that's tricked up. Only thing is that I have to come in under budget of what he spent...

Do you think it best to find an Annie 54 action with a beat up stock and redo it with a Don Stith Stock and potentially a Lilja barrell? Seems I might be able to to this for about 1K.

I have also thought to get an AICS stock and try and build a 22 around it but I have no ideas on what components to use. Has anyone done this?

Any help would be welcome and sorry if this has been asked ad naseum. Just trying to build/get a sweet 22lr for the best money possible and of course beat my father.

Thanks

Eric.
 
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Re: 22 build

^^ what he said... here is my 40XB

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Thanks for the responses. I'm not very knowledgable about the 40x but it appears to be a single shot. Is there a way to do this as a repeater? I saw another thread about them doing conversions but it doesn't appear that is was resolved...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasleftychef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...and most importantly to beat up my dad's 10/22 that's tricked up. Only thing is that I have to come in under budget of what he spent...

...Just trying to build/get a sweet 22lr for the best money possible and of course beat my father.

Thanks

Eric.</div></div>
Well, you're really eluding to the budget you have. I consider my dad's 10-22 "tricked-out" but he doesn't have a boat load of money into it, nor does it shoot as well as most factory bolt actions. The other thing that caught my attention is that you want it for "the best money possible", which to me means that if you can have a rifle that will out shoot his 10-22 at say $400 you'll take that one over a rifle with more features that will still outshoot his 10-22 but for $1000. Also, you never mentioned how well his 10-22 shoots...

Most bang for your buck bolt action is a CZ 452 or 455 in my opinion. Do a quick tand inexpensive trigger modification, clean up the action if need be, mount up your choice of base(s), rings, and optics and get to testing ammo.

My first thought when reading your thread was to say look for a 40x or 40XB. Although, you don't want a single shot rifle. It wouldn't bug me, but to each his own. If you did get over the single shot limiting factor you have the option of using any stock that fits a remington 700 action. That is a major plus in my book.

Although, if a repeater is what you want, then Anschutz may be the ticket. Their triggers are amazing, they shoot dead on, they're high quality rifles by anyone's standards. But they come with a price tag. Knowing your budget will help us alot, but without knowing it, I would suggest looking into a 64/54 action and put a McMillan stock on her.

Hope this helps,
-Dylan
 
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Re: 22 build

If you want to shoot an Anschultz and a 40x to see if you like them come on up and we will go the the range you can shoot all of mine to compair. I have tons of ammo. It wont cost you a thing. That way you will know they feel and how they shoot.It might help you decide. Hell i even got a couple of model 37s some where around here we can shoot also
 
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Re: 22 build

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Terror!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasleftychef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...and most importantly to beat up my dad's 10/22 that's tricked up. Only thing is that I have to come in under budget of what he spent...

...Just trying to build/get a sweet 22lr for the best money possible and of course beat my father.

Thanks

Eric.</div></div>
Well, you're really eluding to the budget you have. I consider my dad's 10-22 "tricked-out" but he doesn't have a boat load of money into it, nor does it shoot as well as most factory bolt actions. The other thing that caught my attention is that you want it for "the best money possible", which to me means that if you can have a rifle that will out shoot his 10-22 at say $400 you'll take that one over a rifle with more features that will still outshoot his 10-22 but for $1000. Also, you never mentioned how well his 10-22 shoots...

Most bang for your buck bolt action is a CZ 452 or 455 in my opinion. Do a quick tand inexpensive trigger modification, clean up the action if need be, mount up your choice of base(s), rings, and optics and get to testing ammo.

My first thought when reading your thread was to say look for a 40x or 40XB. Although, you don't want a single shot rifle. It wouldn't bug me, but to each his own. If you did get over the single shot limiting factor you have the option of using any stock that fits a remington 700 action. That is a major plus in my book.

Although, if a repeater is what you want, then Anschutz may be the ticket. Their triggers are amazing, they shoot dead on, they're high quality rifles by anyone's standards. But they come with a price tag. Knowing your budget will help us alot, but without knowing it, I would suggest looking into a 64/54 action and put a McMillan stock on her.

Hope this helps,
-Dylan

</div></div>

Thanks for the advice. To clear things up - My dad has about $2k into his gun including optics which is the overall budget. He also claims that his best group thus far is about .350 at 50yds which I don't even know is good or not for a .22. I would like to get a stick that will one, shoot at least this good, two, be accurate enough that I could compete with it if I ever decided to, three, have it be a full size gun so that it feels like my TRG and four, have repeater capability so that I can do some speed shooting as well. That's why I tried so hard to find the Finnfire Range as I felt it had all of these attributes and was a Sako too
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Obviously I want to spend as little as possible to get this point but at the same time I don't mind spending the money if it's justified. Thanks for everyone's help so far.

Eric.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nesikabay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you want to shoot an Anschultz and a 40x to see if you like them come on up and we will go the the range you can shoot all of mine to compair. I have tons of ammo. It wont cost you a thing. That way you will know they feel and how they shoot.It might help you decide. Hell i even got a couple of model 37s some where around here we can shoot also </div></div>

I'd like to take you up on that when it cools off.
 
#11
Re: 22 build

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasleftychef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the advice. To clear things up - My dad has about $2k into his gun including optics which is the overall budget. He also claims that his best group thus far is about .350 at 50yds which I don't even know is good or not for a .22. I would like to get a stick that will one, shoot at least this good, two, be accurate enough that I could compete with it if I ever decided to, three, have it be a full size gun so that it feels like my TRG and four, have repeater capability so that I can do some speed shooting as well. That's why I tried so hard to find the Finnfire Range as I felt it had all of these attributes and was a Sako too
smile.gif


Obviously I want to spend as little as possible to get this point but at the same time I don't mind spending the money if it's justified. Thanks for everyone's help so far.

Eric.</div></div>
Considering the above, I will stand behind the CZ-452/455 and Anschutz. With a $2k budget, you can make either work.

If it were me making the decision, I'd go Anschutz without a second thought. There are lots of options to choose from, but I like the 64 MPR quite alot. IIRC, they go for around $800 give or take. Put an FFP Vortex Viper PST up top and you're stitting on a very nice setup. Most guys i've spoken to about the 64 MPR's stock have claimed to like them, but if you feel differently, you can replaced it later on
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If you intend to compete though, you open up a whole 'nuther array of considerations. The type of shooting you're interested in will more than likely have class restrictions in place that your rifle may or may not conform to in whichever configuration you choose.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Terror!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasleftychef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the advice. To clear things up - My dad has about $2k into his gun including optics which is the overall budget. He also claims that his best group thus far is about .350 at 50yds which I don't even know is good or not for a .22. I would like to get a stick that will one, shoot at least this good, two, be accurate enough that I could compete with it if I ever decided to, three, have it be a full size gun so that it feels like my TRG and four, have repeater capability so that I can do some speed shooting as well. That's why I tried so hard to find the Finnfire Range as I felt it had all of these attributes and was a Sako too
smile.gif


Obviously I want to spend as little as possible to get this point but at the same time I don't mind spending the money if it's justified. Thanks for everyone's help so far.

Eric.</div></div>
Considering the above, I will stand behind the CZ-452/455 and Anschutz. With a $2k budget, you can make either work.

If it were me making the decision, I'd go Anschutz without a second thought. There are lots of options to choose from, but I like the 64 MPR quite alot. IIRC, they go for around $800 give or take. Put an FFP Vortex Viper PST up top and you're stitting on a very nice setup. Most guys i've spoken to about the 64 MPR's stock have claimed to like them, but if you feel differently, you can replaced it later on
wink.gif


If you intend to compete though, you open up a whole 'nuther array of considerations. The type of shooting you're interested in will more than likely have class restrictions in place that your rifle may or may not conform to in whichever configuration you choose.

</div></div>

That's what I'd do too. Anschutz MPR with good rings and good scope. Next on the list would be finding the ammo the gun likes. Try Eley,RWS,Lapua,SK,Wolf. Likely it'll be plenty accurate.If not a barrel set back and match chamber would most likely help.
 
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Re: 22 build

Most 40Xs are real shooters. Finding one that doesn't shoot well has proven to be an oddity. I found one in a McMillan stock with a Jewel trigger for $1200.

I guess it's a matter of how much accuracy you really need. If practical accuracy is all you need and you like the 10/22, all it takes is a call to Tony Kidd at coolguyguns.com

I have a 10/22 that has all of the Kidd parts on it and it will out shoot any Savage or CZ that I've shot against. Of course, the Savages and CZ are considerably less expensive.
 
#14
Re: 22 build

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nesikabay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you want to shoot an Anschultz and a 40x to see if you like them come on up and we will go the the range you can shoot all of mine to compair. I have tons of ammo. It wont cost you a thing. That way you will know they feel and how they shoot.It might help you decide. Hell i even got a couple of model 37s some where around here we can shoot also </div></div>
I think this raises the possibility of a:

NORTH TEXAS RIMFIRE RANGE DAY!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Re: 22 build

Well to update -

I went to Neal Stepp's shop today and what an experience that was. The guy knows so much about .22's that it's hard to beleive. I was there for almost 3 hours and looked at a lot of different stuff and asked a lot of questions that he patiently answered in his own particular way. You guys know what I'm talking about? Like when you talk to someone who is such an expert in their field that it's almost difficult for them to revert back to such a basic level. Still a great experience.

After much trigger pulling and excessive drooling on the 54 actions and Neal coaxing out of me what I really wanted the rifle for, I decided on the 1903 left hand model. I know before you all beat me up, that's not exactly what I said I was looking for. He pretty much made me realize that I didn't need a repeater to shoot paper with. That being said however, I did find out that it is not a hard job to convert one as the 64 action is ready and all you need is a hole in the bottom of the stock and get a 10 rd mag. Could be a project for another day though!!!

The thing that made me really like the 1903 was the grip. It seemed very similar and familiar to my TRG grip which I really like. Also really liked the cheek riser. Still a little unsure of the purchase but I think it will all dwindle away once I get it out to the range. I really did look hard at that used MPR though. It was really nice.

I would still like to hook up with you guys though when it cools and down and see how it stacks up.

Now any ideas for rings or a ramp to get out to a 100 or at most 200?

Thanks for everyone's help. I appreciate it a lot.

Eric.
 
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Re: 22 build

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasleftychef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...asked a lot of questions that he patiently answered in his own <span style="text-decoration: line-through">particular</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">PECULIAR</span> way. You guys know what I'm talking about? ... </div></div>

Fixed... I'll leave the answer to your question to someone more experienced with the Annie...
 
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Re: 22 build

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasleftychef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well to update -

I went to Neal Stepp's shop today and what an experience that was. The guy knows so much about .22's that it's hard to beleive. I was there for almost 3 hours and looked at a lot of different stuff and asked a lot of questions that he patiently answered in his own particular way. You guys know what I'm talking about? Like when you talk to someone who is such an expert in their field that it's almost difficult for them to revert back to such a basic level. Still a great experience.

After much trigger pulling and excessive drooling on the 54 actions and Neal coaxing out of me what I really wanted the rifle for, I decided on the 1903 left hand model. I know before you all beat me up, that's not exactly what I said I was looking for. He pretty much made me realize that I didn't need a repeater to shoot paper with. That being said however, I did find out that it is not a hard job to convert one as the 64 action is ready and all you need is a hole in the bottom of the stock and get a 10 rd mag. Could be a project for another day though!!!

The thing that made me really like the 1903 was the grip. It seemed very similar and familiar to my TRG grip which I really like. Also really liked the cheek riser. Still a little unsure of the purchase but I think it will all dwindle away once I get it out to the range. I really did look hard at that used MPR though. It was really nice.

I would still like to hook up with you guys though when it cools and down and see how it stacks up.

Now any ideas for rings or a ramp to get out to a 100 or at most 200?

Thanks for everyone's help. I appreciate it a lot.

Eric. </div></div>

I have tried every type of base on all my Annie's. The one piece pic rails are very heavy and very tall. It is hard to get the scope low to the rifle for a good cheek weld. I really like the small plastic adapters from this place
link

I use these with Burris signature rings with inserts. I can get off set mounting for extended range and it is very light and low to the gun
 
#23
Re: 22 build

this is the best 100 yard group i shot with my stock CZ452 varmint

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the only thing i did to trick it out was put a timney trigger in it.

rifle, SWFA SS 10x42, rings, and the trigger might have cost $1000
 
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