Hunting & Fishing .243 AR10/87 VMAX vs. 712 yd. antelope

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I was fortunate enough to hunt yesterday on some private land south of here for late season doe antelope. A friend of mine who knows the property like the back of his hand was escorting me. We were able to put a stalk on this goat and one other that was with her earlier, but that was not meant to be. They had been hunted pretty hard and were somewhat skittish, so we had to make another plan, and elected for a longer range shot.

We had to crawl on hands and knees for about 100 yards or so to get into position for this shot. My friend had never seen anyone who carries a rear bag or 16 lb. rifle into the field before. Good thing for us the path where we crawled was a two-track that had just been graded about a week before. So, no stickers. Bad, because it was the fine talc-like dust EVERYWHERE!

I was able to range the antelope with the dust filled Swaro after the crawl thru the prairie and came up with 712. I already had the HUD up in iBallistic on my iPod, and scrolled thru to 715. A slightly quartering shot destroyed the onside shoulder/joint and the ribcage behind, along with devascularizing the ventricles of her heart. I held no wind, even though I saw about three different mirage waves at varying distances. I thought that they would all cancel out and as it turns out, they did.

You don't hear about too much long range hunting with the AR10 platform, much less one in .243. I have shot several antelope with this combination using the 87 VMAX and can say that is WELL suited to the task. I think that this shot was about the extent of its capability as there was no exit, but all of the destruction was ample for a clean, quick kill. I have 100% faith in this system as I have used it for years on coyotes and know it very well.

Mr. badger was at 121 yards and he got to hear an 87 VAMX right down his earhole. I think he liked how it sounded. He will make a VERY nice fur for the wall. Ms. doe will meet Mr. Weber tonight and we will have backstraps and taters. I'm so freakin' stoked.

I had to work the two nights before, and we were out both nights. I had to work the night of the hunt too so I was tired as hell, WAY too amped up on who knows how many cups of coffee, sleep deprived... it was so cool.

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Re: .243 AR10/87 VMAX vs. 712 yd. antelope

Fantastic!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You don't hear about too much long range hunting with the AR10 platform, much less one in .243. I have shot several antelope with this combination using the 87 VMAX and can say that is WELL suited to the task. I think that this shot was about the extent of its capability as there was no exit, but all of the destruction was ample for a clean, quick kill. I have 100% faith in this system as I have used it for years on coyotes and know it very well.</div></div>

If it was legal in PA to hunt with an autoloading rifle I'd be all over it with my LR-260 and probably do it suppressed given that my paperwork should come through.

Very nice shot, well placed. Thus far the longest fur bearing hit I've made is only about 225 on a g'hog with mine... doesn't really count.
 
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I guess the state has a reason not to. At least half of the toolbag hunters I have met I wouldn't trust with a sharp stick. I know I am lucky to live in Colorado. Lots of public land to use and some decent laws as well. The last state I lived in before here was California. Anywhere from there was a good choice in my opinion.

Bring your rifle out here and we can wring it out! By the way, the colleague of mine that was hunting with me is interested in the LR 260 now that he's seen what can be done. How do you like it and what kind of accuracy is it capable of?
 
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Way cool on the badger as i would really like to get one as a mount for my office.

Great shooting on the goat!
 
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Steve, I offered you some steak! The kids ate the hell out of it! Thanks for skinning that stinky bastard! Let's go shoot some coyotes, you guys are way ahead of me for this year.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ffl medic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve, I offered you some steak! The kids ate the hell out of it! Thanks for skinning that stinky bastard! Let's go shoot some coyotes, you guys are way ahead of me for this year. </div></div>

I'd have skinned that one for my worst enemy, it was so nice. Wed. mon, Wed.--we're on.
 
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I agree, helluva shot indeed. That 87 did better than I would have thought at that distance. Goats are dainty but tough as linebackers. If you don't hit them right they run for miles. Congrats ffl.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fred_C_Dobbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Amazing there was that much energy remaining in an 87-grain pill after 700 yards. Helluva shot, dude! </div></div>
 
Re: .243 AR10/87 VMAX vs. 712 yd. antelope

Here's the meat and potatoes:

The rifle is an Armalite AR10T 24". I put in a Giesselle trigger. I have it topped with a Leupold 6.5-20 LR scope with the VH reticle in Burris Extreme Rings. I use the reticle a lot, at least for most of the <600 yard stuff. It is accurate and very fast. I have a bunch of cheat sheets taped to the stock, just in case I need them. I usually hunt with the 9-13 notched Harris, but carry others with me as well.

I use Winchester brass with 43 gr. of H4350 and a 210M primer. That gives me 3200 fps. Conditions were 6150' ASL, 30.30 mmHg, 30*F. I think that gave me around 13 iphy correction. I use a G7 drag function in the iBallistic program for my iPod. I have shot this for years and it is very consistent. Last year I shot a coyote at 785 and it was a pass thru, with good expansion for a one shot fast kill. It is an impressive performer all around.

I'm sure I could shoot RL17 or something else for another 200+ fps, but it really isn't necessary, as evidence shows. Besides, it will just wear things out faster. The only things I plan on changing on the rifle is the stock for a MagPul PRS, and a 20 MOA badger rail. I could probably shoot the Swift Scirocco in 90 gr. and have a pass thru, but I don't think she would be any deader, or have died any faster.

The pictures are kind of gross, but I hope they illustrate the performance of the 87 VMAX. The first pic is the shoulder itself, the second is the section of ribs behind where the shoulder was, the third is the inside of the ribcage. I didn't take a picture of the heart, but part of both the ventricles were shredded. Eric
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whoo, good story and good pics. I'm gonna be shooting an 18" 243 very soon and was planning on using the 87gr vmax. I will opt for R17 because I'm gonna need as much help as possible getting speed.
 
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Here u go sonny bunchkins--

3 hours worth...don't tell the wife though--she don't know they're hiding in the garage yet (she thinks the garage is hers...too) She's not careful, i'm gonna' sick 'em on her..--

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Nice shot. I have been using 123 v-max in a 7.62x39 AR and have been really liking the results. I have taken it to the woods where the shots have been close. Devastated a coyote with one.