I was prepping some new remington brass tonight and noticed that on some of the cases that the flash hole was offset and some looked like they were oblong like the machine punching/drilling the hole went in twice in the same hole. The offset of the holes are not slightly off, they are way off from center. My main concern is bending the decapping pin when I go to reload these cases. Anyone ran into this problem before?
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260 Rem Brass flash hole???
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Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
Often, in fact. The only company that I'm aware of that <span style="font-style: italic">drills</span> flash holes is Lapua, though there may be others. Remchester and Federal punch them for sure.
I either use brass with off-center/oblong flash holes for die and trimmer adjustments, or scrap them. Yeah, it sucks to have to scrap brand new brass, but it'll cost more than it's worth to send it back to the manufacturer and ask for replacements.
Often, in fact. The only company that I'm aware of that <span style="font-style: italic">drills</span> flash holes is Lapua, though there may be others. Remchester and Federal punch them for sure.
I either use brass with off-center/oblong flash holes for die and trimmer adjustments, or scrap them. Yeah, it sucks to have to scrap brand new brass, but it'll cost more than it's worth to send it back to the manufacturer and ask for replacements.
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
I would suggest giving Remington a call. A few years ago i had some bad remington 22 ammo. They provided a prepaid 'mailer' to send it back and repaid me more than the going price for the ammo.
I would suggest giving Remington a call. A few years ago i had some bad remington 22 ammo. They provided a prepaid 'mailer' to send it back and repaid me more than the going price for the ammo.
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
Buy the Sinclair flash hole reamers at .081 they center the hole and make them all the same size but f way off there is nothing you can do but call the MFG.
Buy the Sinclair flash hole reamers at .081 they center the hole and make them all the same size but f way off there is nothing you can do but call the MFG.
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
My view is, it's all good as long as it doesn't affect accuracy.
We can type conjecture here all day long, but the real answer is to make up some ammo with 'good' flash holes and 'bad' flash holes, and see how they shoot.
It may well be that there's a significant difference, but that still doesn't mean the 'bad' brass can't be used for applications where peak accuracy isn't demanded. Getting sighters into the ballpark and fouling/warming a barrel preparatory to a scoring relay can be very respectable uses for such brass.
Greg
My view is, it's all good as long as it doesn't affect accuracy.
We can type conjecture here all day long, but the real answer is to make up some ammo with 'good' flash holes and 'bad' flash holes, and see how they shoot.
It may well be that there's a significant difference, but that still doesn't mean the 'bad' brass can't be used for applications where peak accuracy isn't demanded. Getting sighters into the ballpark and fouling/warming a barrel preparatory to a scoring relay can be very respectable uses for such brass.
Greg
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
Do you really want to have more variables to keep track of?
Keeping the brass segregated from the rest will prove to be more hassle than it's worth for most.
The de-capping pin seems to handle the off-set but if you shoot the .260 then accuracy is probably important to you.
Blindly I'll say that anything different is suspect and that everything effects accuracy/ballistics to some degree.
All evidence supports this and nothing to my attention refutes it.
Do you really want to have more variables to keep track of?
Keeping the brass segregated from the rest will prove to be more hassle than it's worth for most.
The de-capping pin seems to handle the off-set but if you shoot the .260 then accuracy is probably important to you.
Blindly I'll say that anything different is suspect and that everything effects accuracy/ballistics to some degree.
All evidence supports this and nothing to my attention refutes it.
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
Accuracy is very important to me. If it was just 10 cases or so messed up I would just take my loss, but like I said above I have already found 50 and still have alot more to sort through. I think I will call the manufacture and see if they will make it right since there are so many defective. I guess you still get what you pay for these days.
Accuracy is very important to me. If it was just 10 cases or so messed up I would just take my loss, but like I said above I have already found 50 and still have alot more to sort through. I think I will call the manufacture and see if they will make it right since there are so many defective. I guess you still get what you pay for these days.
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
Remington should want to know if they're producing bad product. You can expect them to replace what you have with good brass.
Remington should want to know if they're producing bad product. You can expect them to replace what you have with good brass.
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
Well, if you feel that's too much hassle, I can't fault your reasoning. Looking through some of your earlier posts, your advice seems pretty good, in general.
I tend to segregate my brass into two categories, one which I reserve for the 'full monte' match prep, and save for match/scoring ammo; and the rest, which I subject to 'test mule' duty, which can be anything including load testing/confirmation, sighters, and foulers. The distinction tends to subject the good stuff to less useage and stress. Distinguishing the two sets can be as simple as filing a notch in the rim of the oddballs.
Maybe it's not completely logical, but I am often forced by economics to do things that might otherwise seem overly labor intensive. I can't afford to deep-six brass simply because it has blemishes. If I can put it to a less critical use, then it's helps me economize. If nothing else, brass that no longer meets my match requirements can still be loaded up one more time for hunting use, where brass is often lost anyway.
Greg
Well, if you feel that's too much hassle, I can't fault your reasoning. Looking through some of your earlier posts, your advice seems pretty good, in general.
I tend to segregate my brass into two categories, one which I reserve for the 'full monte' match prep, and save for match/scoring ammo; and the rest, which I subject to 'test mule' duty, which can be anything including load testing/confirmation, sighters, and foulers. The distinction tends to subject the good stuff to less useage and stress. Distinguishing the two sets can be as simple as filing a notch in the rim of the oddballs.
Maybe it's not completely logical, but I am often forced by economics to do things that might otherwise seem overly labor intensive. I can't afford to deep-six brass simply because it has blemishes. If I can put it to a less critical use, then it's helps me economize. If nothing else, brass that no longer meets my match requirements can still be loaded up one more time for hunting use, where brass is often lost anyway.
Greg
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
A consideration that should not be overlooked is that the OP paid for good brass and may expect the same. If Remington wants to make good on the deal, they should be given that opportunity.
A consideration that should not be overlooked is that the OP paid for good brass and may expect the same. If Remington wants to make good on the deal, they should be given that opportunity.
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
I have had the same problem with Winchester brass. That and ther was a fold of brass on the neck of a case. Each time I wrote to the manufacture and sent the case back. Either got new brass back or a gift certificate. Shit happens when you produce millions of wigits a year, three shifts, 24-7.
Call them.
Jerry
I have had the same problem with Winchester brass. That and ther was a fold of brass on the neck of a case. Each time I wrote to the manufacture and sent the case back. Either got new brass back or a gift certificate. Shit happens when you produce millions of wigits a year, three shifts, 24-7.
Call them.
Jerry
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
I'm gonna sort through some right now, and get back to you. Your making me worry.
I'm gonna sort through some right now, and get back to you. Your making me worry.
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
Out of 5 of 50count bags, only 6 pieces had major off centered flash holes or lop sides flash holes. That's not bad for brass that is only $20 a bag. It's not lupua quality but it's also not lupua prices. As long as it's accurate and lasts for 4 or 5 firings that's all that matters.
Out of 5 of 50count bags, only 6 pieces had major off centered flash holes or lop sides flash holes. That's not bad for brass that is only $20 a bag. It's not lupua quality but it's also not lupua prices. As long as it's accurate and lasts for 4 or 5 firings that's all that matters.
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
I can't bring myself to throw out possibly usable brass either.
I even pick up brass that I don't reload so I can give it to someone who does.
There are so many variables for me to keep track of it's getting ridiculous.
I keep a handloading log and label everything extensively and still I find myself confused at times.
I've also learned that I don't have much time for marginal ammunition.
I haven't made rifle plinking ammo in ages because I don't even use what I made eons ago.
It's like an SKS I bought almost 18 years ago.
It never sees the light of day and the forecast isn't getting any better.
Only accurate rifles go with me to the range, and those rifles need accurate ammunition.
Sure there are uses for marginal cases.
I wish that I knew of a good way to permanently mark and identify those cases.
Lets us know if Rem makes right.
Sounds like you got a bad batch.
I can't bring myself to throw out possibly usable brass either.
I even pick up brass that I don't reload so I can give it to someone who does.
There are so many variables for me to keep track of it's getting ridiculous.
I keep a handloading log and label everything extensively and still I find myself confused at times.
I've also learned that I don't have much time for marginal ammunition.
I haven't made rifle plinking ammo in ages because I don't even use what I made eons ago.
It's like an SKS I bought almost 18 years ago.
It never sees the light of day and the forecast isn't getting any better.
Only accurate rifles go with me to the range, and those rifles need accurate ammunition.
Sure there are uses for marginal cases.
I wish that I knew of a good way to permanently mark and identify those cases.
Lets us know if Rem makes right.
Sounds like you got a bad batch.
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
I maintain my brass in labelled containers. Usually they are butter tubs. The grand majority of my brass is decapped and clean, being held for loading when I have a use for it.
I don't keep loaded ammo for any significant length of time. The necks and projectiles tend to bond over time, screwing with neck tension/pull force, and negatively impacting accuracy. If it sits too long, the seater is used to nudge the bullets slightly shortly before use, to break and potential bonds.
Except for hunting loads, my ammo is made for a specific event, usually within two weeks of being used.
Like you, I have little use for plinking ammo. The closest thing I have is .30-'06 150gr ball ammo handloads kept in standby stock in 8rd Enbloc clips for the Garand. They are bagged in lots of 40rd/5clips, and those go into a GI ammo can.
My training/plinking s done with .22LR; which I maintain in some bulk.
Greg
I maintain my brass in labelled containers. Usually they are butter tubs. The grand majority of my brass is decapped and clean, being held for loading when I have a use for it.
I don't keep loaded ammo for any significant length of time. The necks and projectiles tend to bond over time, screwing with neck tension/pull force, and negatively impacting accuracy. If it sits too long, the seater is used to nudge the bullets slightly shortly before use, to break and potential bonds.
Except for hunting loads, my ammo is made for a specific event, usually within two weeks of being used.
Like you, I have little use for plinking ammo. The closest thing I have is .30-'06 150gr ball ammo handloads kept in standby stock in 8rd Enbloc clips for the Garand. They are bagged in lots of 40rd/5clips, and those go into a GI ammo can.
My training/plinking s done with .22LR; which I maintain in some bulk.
Greg
Re: 260 Rem Brass flash hole???
I say to keep them and use them for a hunt'n load.then you want have to use the other brass for both.thats if you hunt and it not a whole bunch of it.and for me when I order rem brass I get mine from Midway.I have bought alot of brass from them and have yet had a problem with it.but hey I might have a silver spoon up my butt when it comes to rem brass.and let me tell ya I have never had a silver spoon there yet.me be a poor man if you know what I mean.my money comes hard.
I say to keep them and use them for a hunt'n load.then you want have to use the other brass for both.thats if you hunt and it not a whole bunch of it.and for me when I order rem brass I get mine from Midway.I have bought alot of brass from them and have yet had a problem with it.but hey I might have a silver spoon up my butt when it comes to rem brass.and let me tell ya I have never had a silver spoon there yet.me be a poor man if you know what I mean.my money comes hard.
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