Hello All I finally found a great site for my interest,I own 270 and a 340 weatherby fibermark rifles and I would like to purchase a tactical long range scope for 1000 yard target shooting but Im not sure which of the two would be the best,thats why I came here,also which type-brand of scope to go with.I also would like to know how would the 270 weatherby compare to the 308 winchester for long range,Thank you.....
270 weatherby or 340 weatherby 1000 yard shots
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Re: 270 weatherby or 340 weatherby 1000 yard shots
I've only ever shot one Weatherby cartridge (three rounds through a friend's 30-.378) but I would guess the .270 would have a flatter trajectory than the .308. As for scopes, there are a lot of great options out there. If you look around in the Optics section you will see all sorts of reviews and opinions on FFP vs SFP, magnification ranges, reticle selection, adjustments, etc.
As far as the rifles go, a .308 is far form an ideal 1000 yard cartridge. It will be much cheaper to shoot than either of your Weatherbys because of reduced ammo costs and greatly improved barrel life. If your Weatherbys are sporters, they are going to beat you up pretty bad after 100 rounds of practice.
My recommendation: Figure out what kind of shooting you want to do. Then read up on scopes, external ballistics (cartridge comparison) and available options in your price range. Finally, ask a few questions to narrow things down and take your time making a decision. My instinct is that you would be better served by an entry-level Savage or Remington .308 with a decent target scope than trying to learn long-range shooting with a sporter-weight magnum.
I've only ever shot one Weatherby cartridge (three rounds through a friend's 30-.378) but I would guess the .270 would have a flatter trajectory than the .308. As for scopes, there are a lot of great options out there. If you look around in the Optics section you will see all sorts of reviews and opinions on FFP vs SFP, magnification ranges, reticle selection, adjustments, etc.
As far as the rifles go, a .308 is far form an ideal 1000 yard cartridge. It will be much cheaper to shoot than either of your Weatherbys because of reduced ammo costs and greatly improved barrel life. If your Weatherbys are sporters, they are going to beat you up pretty bad after 100 rounds of practice.
My recommendation: Figure out what kind of shooting you want to do. Then read up on scopes, external ballistics (cartridge comparison) and available options in your price range. Finally, ask a few questions to narrow things down and take your time making a decision. My instinct is that you would be better served by an entry-level Savage or Remington .308 with a decent target scope than trying to learn long-range shooting with a sporter-weight magnum.
Re: 270 weatherby or 340 weatherby 1000 yard shots
The amount of freebore (in your weatherby factory chambers) and the rates of twist may not lend them to use for serious long range work.
You can do as you wish, but I'd suggest just scoping them for hunting within whatever their useful (and accuracy limited) ranges happen to be.
The amount of freebore (in your weatherby factory chambers) and the rates of twist may not lend them to use for serious long range work.
You can do as you wish, but I'd suggest just scoping them for hunting within whatever their useful (and accuracy limited) ranges happen to be.
Re: 270 weatherby or 340 weatherby 1000 yard shots
I only have 3 Weatherby's at the moment and they all shoot well under sub MOA with hunting bullets and Bergers. The freebore in a Weatherby supports and guides the bullets nicely into the rifling usually with no loss in accuracy. Weatherby's are the only factory rifle I have ever scoped that have the chambers cut square to the bore. They are very smooth and free of toolmarks. Your 270 is well suited to 1000 yard work as is the 340. I strongly recomend putting a brake on whichever you choose. For 1000 yard work my go to scope is the Leupold 66600.
Weatherby's respond very well to free floating and bedding. The factory trigger also lends itself to long range work as it can be adjusted as low as 6 ounces with a spring change or down to about 16 ounces as they are issued. I run mine at 15 ounces.
I only have 3 Weatherby's at the moment and they all shoot well under sub MOA with hunting bullets and Bergers. The freebore in a Weatherby supports and guides the bullets nicely into the rifling usually with no loss in accuracy. Weatherby's are the only factory rifle I have ever scoped that have the chambers cut square to the bore. They are very smooth and free of toolmarks. Your 270 is well suited to 1000 yard work as is the 340. I strongly recomend putting a brake on whichever you choose. For 1000 yard work my go to scope is the Leupold 66600.
Weatherby's respond very well to free floating and bedding. The factory trigger also lends itself to long range work as it can be adjusted as low as 6 ounces with a spring change or down to about 16 ounces as they are issued. I run mine at 15 ounces.
Re: 270 weatherby or 340 weatherby 1000 yard shots
Hi use the 150gr Bergers in your 270Wby it is a better mousetrap for 1000 yard work when you burn the barrel out rebarrel to 7mm if you love Wby cases the 7mm Wby if you dont care a short mag or the 7mm Rem mag is a better prospect but the 270 Wby will work realy well for you. as for scopes i am not a real fan of the newer leupolds have a look at a Nightforce or Vortex Razor they would both work for you call scott at Liberty Optics and he will be able to sourt you out with everything you nbeed at a good price.
What action are you running? if they are Mk5 Wby long actions Seekins precision 20moa long action remington700 rails fit perfectly i have done 2 up for a friend and customer also opened the holes to #8X40 screws for better strength you will need a tapered rail and Seekins rings are also a great option they are the best i have used. His are 30-378 and 338-378 we fitted larger brakes on the accumarks and they shoot verry well past 1000 yards.
Hi use the 150gr Bergers in your 270Wby it is a better mousetrap for 1000 yard work when you burn the barrel out rebarrel to 7mm if you love Wby cases the 7mm Wby if you dont care a short mag or the 7mm Rem mag is a better prospect but the 270 Wby will work realy well for you. as for scopes i am not a real fan of the newer leupolds have a look at a Nightforce or Vortex Razor they would both work for you call scott at Liberty Optics and he will be able to sourt you out with everything you nbeed at a good price.
What action are you running? if they are Mk5 Wby long actions Seekins precision 20moa long action remington700 rails fit perfectly i have done 2 up for a friend and customer also opened the holes to #8X40 screws for better strength you will need a tapered rail and Seekins rings are also a great option they are the best i have used. His are 30-378 and 338-378 we fitted larger brakes on the accumarks and they shoot verry well past 1000 yards.
Re: 270 weatherby or 340 weatherby 1000 yard shots
Consider the barrel contour. With full blown loads, the standard taper won't allow more than 3 rounds before allowing to cool. If you are REALLY going to do 1000 yard (or 1000 meters) shooting...you need more barrel weight for the heat. JMHO
Consider the barrel contour. With full blown loads, the standard taper won't allow more than 3 rounds before allowing to cool. If you are REALLY going to do 1000 yard (or 1000 meters) shooting...you need more barrel weight for the heat. JMHO
Re: 270 weatherby or 340 weatherby 1000 yard shots
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wild_Bill</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> if they are Mk5 Wby long actions Seekins precision 20moa long action remington700 rails fit perfectly
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Never use Remington rails or bases on a Mark 5. Though the bolt holes will line up the rear of your Mark 5 is .020"-.030" lower than the 700 action. Without shims the rail will be notivable tweeked transmitting much stress to your scope tube and waste some elevation adjustment from the scope. Ken Farrell and Richard Near make rails that fit the Mark 5 properly.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wild_Bill</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> if they are Mk5 Wby long actions Seekins precision 20moa long action remington700 rails fit perfectly
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Never use Remington rails or bases on a Mark 5. Though the bolt holes will line up the rear of your Mark 5 is .020"-.030" lower than the 700 action. Without shims the rail will be notivable tweeked transmitting much stress to your scope tube and waste some elevation adjustment from the scope. Ken Farrell and Richard Near make rails that fit the Mark 5 properly.
Re: 270 weatherby or 340 weatherby 1000 yard shots
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hired Gun</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wild_Bill</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> if they are Mk5 Wby long actions Seekins precision 20moa long action remington700 rails fit perfectly
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Never use Remington rails or bases on a Mark 5. Though the bolt holes will line up the rear of your Mark 5 is .020"-.030" lower than the 700 action. Without shims the rail will be notivable tweeked transmitting much stress to your scope tube and waste some elevation adjustment from the scope. Ken Farrell and Richard Near make rails that fit the Mark 5 properly. </div></div>
Im sorry to upset you but the 2 we fitted from seekins fitted perfectly and yes they are still 20moa mabe the actions are out of spec. he previously had Nightforce rails on them and yes they were for a rem700 aswell. there is more diference int he production lots of rem 700's over the years but i do understand what you are saying but i do have to disagree with you as with the front screws tighetend the rail was still in contact with the reciever and with only the rear screws tightened the front was still in contact they actualy fit perfectly.
The Nightforce rails did not fit aswell but the Seekins do fit perfectly.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hired Gun</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wild_Bill</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> if they are Mk5 Wby long actions Seekins precision 20moa long action remington700 rails fit perfectly
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Never use Remington rails or bases on a Mark 5. Though the bolt holes will line up the rear of your Mark 5 is .020"-.030" lower than the 700 action. Without shims the rail will be notivable tweeked transmitting much stress to your scope tube and waste some elevation adjustment from the scope. Ken Farrell and Richard Near make rails that fit the Mark 5 properly. </div></div>
Im sorry to upset you but the 2 we fitted from seekins fitted perfectly and yes they are still 20moa mabe the actions are out of spec. he previously had Nightforce rails on them and yes they were for a rem700 aswell. there is more diference int he production lots of rem 700's over the years but i do understand what you are saying but i do have to disagree with you as with the front screws tighetend the rail was still in contact with the reciever and with only the rear screws tightened the front was still in contact they actualy fit perfectly.
The Nightforce rails did not fit aswell but the Seekins do fit perfectly.
Re: 270 weatherby or 340 weatherby 1000 yard shots
The 340 is almost the ballistic twin of 338 Lapua mag.
Reloading data from Norma:
http://www.norma.cc/sortimentladd.asp?Kaliber=340%20Weatherby%20Magnum&Lang=1
http://www.norma.cc/sortimentladd.asp?Kaliber=338%20Lapua%20Magnum&Lang=1
If you put a can on the 340 you have a very interesting rifle.
The 340 is almost the ballistic twin of 338 Lapua mag.
Reloading data from Norma:
http://www.norma.cc/sortimentladd.asp?Kaliber=340%20Weatherby%20Magnum&Lang=1
http://www.norma.cc/sortimentladd.asp?Kaliber=338%20Lapua%20Magnum&Lang=1
If you put a can on the 340 you have a very interesting rifle.
Re: 270 weatherby or 340 weatherby 1000 yard shots
Doesn't upset me. It's not my scope you bent. What you did is a common mistake. I wish Seekins would make a rail for the Mark 5.
Doesn't upset me. It's not my scope you bent. What you did is a common mistake. I wish Seekins would make a rail for the Mark 5.
