.308 Rem. 700 SPS-V Range Report

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My first trip to the range with this brand new rifle wasn't all that impressive. It was box-stock factory all the way with Weaver bases and a Sightmark 8.5~25x50 scope. Cartridges were loaded with 150 grain Winchester PSP bulk bullets and several powders. My best 3-shot groups for the day at 104 yards were .669" & .872". The rest were over an inch up to 2.5".

Since then, I dropped the barreled action into a B&C Medalist stock, installed an EGW 20 MOA base and a 6.5~20x50 Viper scope with target dot. Sunday, in spite of the heat, I managed 8 groups of 3 shots each at 102 yards. Including my first group of 1.297", all 8 groups averaged .617" with the smallest being .179".

New R-P brass loaded with Varget & RE-15 and 168 grain SMK bullets. OAL was 2.800". I used some 150 grain bullet loads to get the rifle on paper and centered.

Five loads using Varget from 43.0 - 45.0 grains in 1/2 grain increments. Smallest group .370" (43.5 grains) & largest 1.297" with an average of .664"

Three loads using RE-15 from 42.0 - 43.0 grains in 1/2 grain increments. Largest group was .721" and the smallest .179" (42.5 grains) with an average of .539".

I have more loads to test using H-4895 and WW-748 powders but the above groups are very promising. The factory trigger is OK but nothing special and a lighter one would help, no doubt.

The Viper scope worked beautifully. With the 20 MOA base, I still have about 7-8 MOA downward adjustment remaining with a 102 yard zero using the 168 grain SMK bullet. Elevation and windage adjustments are positive. All controls have just the right amount of resistance when turning. The optics are clear and bright throughout the full power range. The fine CH/Target Dot reticle is sharp and well-defined. For the $280 I paid, IMO I doubt there's a better new scope value on the market.

Operation of the rifle was smooth and everything worked as advertised. For an out-of-the-box rifle, modified with only a new stock, I'm more than pleased.
 
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I'm new but in my opinion I don't think that's to shabby for dropping the action in a better stock of your choice. I'm planning on ordering my varmit in a couple weeks and trying to gather all the info I can on them. I was going to drop mine in a H-S m24 stock and check the accuracy. If its not up to snuff I'll send it to SAC.
 
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Just finished my sps-v new b&c medalist A2 lapped the barrel egw 20moa rail Hawke tactical mildot scope which is incredible gun is shooting .284-.497 consistently
 
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I'm very impressed with this platform. I'm a novice with 308 bolt ...I got an inexpensive ADL varmint package and just shot 1 MOA prone at 200 yards under heavy mirage (100+ degrees) and sweat dripping...through a weed garden (200 yard range doesn't get too much use I guess). Proper position and heavy barrel yielded basically no recoil. No charge for the mowing.
 
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I own three 700 varmint rifles: .223, 6mm and .308. The 6mm is in a laminated stock while the other two came with the synthetic stocks. All three stocks have a pressure point near the tip of the fore end pressing upward on the barrel.

It's been my experience that the POI changes as the barrel heats up and changes that pressure. Both the .223 and the .308 have responded well to a stock change that has free floated the barrel. As soon as I can afford it, the 6mm will get a new B&C stock too.
 
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Just curious what you all have been paying for this platform? Has anyone shot the "Tactical ACC-SD" Model 700 SPS that Remington just released?

I'm considering the tactical acc-sd model so I can add muzzle brake or suppressor to protect a bad shoulder. Any thoughts from you varmint owners?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lovain1932</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just finished my sps-v new b&c medalist A2 lapped the barrel egw 20moa rail Hawke tactical mildot scope which is incredible gun is shooting .284-.497 consistently </div></div>

What ammo are you using if you don't mind me asking. I'm using FGGM 168 grain with great results. So good in fact it outshoots me and I see no need for truing the action. Maybe I will when the barrel wear out in a year or two.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GeoDW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just curious what you all have been paying for this platform?</div></div>

With local tax, I walked the .308 SPS-V rifle out the door for $593. The B&C stock was $238, the 20 MOA EGW base $40 and the Viper scope $280. I already had the 30mm Warne Maxima rings but they run about $39 at this time. That puts the total cost just a little South of $1,200.

LoneWolfUSMC, your review is well done. I believe my rifle will hold 1/2 inch groups once I've worked up my loads. It obviously likes the 168 grain Sierra MK bullets. Surprisingly, once I put the .223 in a B&C stock, it easily stays under 1/2 inch using the Sierra 63 grain semi-point bullet and 25.5 grains of H-4895 in commercial LC-08 & 09 cases. I load them to 2.250".
 
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gz, you have a very nice setup for sure. That AIC stock is REALLY nice. You also did an excellent review. Have you shot it since or are you waiting for your bolt back or something?
 
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I actually just went to the range 2 days ago and shot it. I'm now almost finished breaking the barrel in. I was limited to 100 yards at the range I was at. It's still printing tiny groups every time with the holes touching each other and I was firing prone off a bipod with NO rear bag. I'm new to high-power shooting and find it no problem hitting anything I aim at. I was shooting spent shotgun shells at 100 yards and didn't miss any of them...This thing is a laser. I must say you have to buy the FGMM. Anything cheap won't produce results. I don't mean to sound cocky, but after last weekend I'm getting bored of it already. 100 yards has become a real joke. I can't wait till I join Cumberland Riflemen where they have a 600 yard range. Just waiting for their interview process. I'm waiting to send my bolt back until I have to head back to school in Boston this Sunday...
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gz, you sound like a young man with great muscle coordination and eyes. As in almost all things in life, some are blessed and others less so. To paraphrase Rooster Cogburn, I'm past my 13th lustrum now and my best days are behind me.
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With regards to the GMM ammunition, depending upon how much shooting you do, it would pay you to reload. It should cut your costs in half and pay for itself.

Your biggest challenge on the 600 yard range may be learning to read mirage and wind. Accomplish that and you'll be hard to beat.
 
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Thanks doubs! I've already begun to look into reloading presses and realize this is a must have since I have recently begun to take shooting more seriously and shoot every spare moment I get and with every spare penny my college budget allows. I cant wait until I actually get to touch my turrets and have to adjust for wind and elevation. I feel like working up good handloads is half the fun of shooting and can't wait to start. With that, do you have any advice about a good reloading press and set? While I might have my youth and eyes still, its the older guys that have all the wisdom in this sport.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't mean to sound cocky, but after last weekend I'm getting bored of it already. 100 yards has become a real joke. </div></div>

If 100 yards has become easy, then it's time to make it harder. Start running wind sprints before firing a shot. Shoot from alternate positions. Make yourself drop down behind the gun and fire under reduced time limits or find another shooter and race each other.

I see lots of guys who can shoot bug hole groups at a leisurely pace. I don't usually see a lot who can do it under pressure.

If one facet of shooting becomes "easy" then press to the next level. Otherwise you are just wasting powder.

There is nothing better than to watch a guy who can accurately run a bolt gun as fast as most semi-autos.
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Good advice. Shooting groups gets boring pretty fast. Once you establish that you and the rifle are capable of shooting one ragged little hole, there's really very little to be gained from continuing to do the same thing over and over (with the exception of load development).
If you haven't already, download the Sniper's Hide "Practical Tactical" target. It has 15x 1/2"dots with one extra dot to check your zero. Fire 1 rd per dot and try to hit all 15.
When you get to the point where you are cleaning them regularly, start timing yourself. Shoot weak-handed, or from positions other than bench or prone. You can also number the dots and have a buddy randomly call out numbers for you to shoot at.
Like LoneWolfUSMC suggested, try adding elements of physical stress to your practice. Instead of walking downrange to change your targets, run! Mix it up. If you start getting bored, make it harder on yourself.
Also, if possible, set up targets at varying distances (25,50,100 and 200yds), and move back and forth between the targets making adjustments as you shoot. This is a great way to really learn your dope for your rifle/ammo combination.
 
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Thanks for the advice guys. I'll defined try all that out once it stops pouring here. Other positions will definitely be a test as my rifle weighs a ton. I'm wanting to buy a good sling to start using that while I shoot. I hear TAB makes a nice one? I usually run down to my targets anyway because I hate wasting time walking when I could be shooting. I think sprinting back and forth and leaving the spotting scope at home should make for some interesting shooting. It all really depends if I can get a range to myself. I really need to get out of school and buy some damn land!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll defined try all that out once it stops pouring here.</div></div>

Shooting in the rain is a great way to test yourself. </div></div>

Maybe once the NightForce gets on top of the rifle. I dont want to test the WOTAC's waterproof abilities quite yet. Now that I think about it that would be a GREAT time to get a range all to yourself. And a strange look from the range officer...

Does the rain throw off your shot a lot? I'm assuming it would a decent amount?
 
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gz, with regards to reloading, there are "kits" available from several makers - Lee, Lyman, Hornady & RCBS - that have almost everything needed to get you started. Or, you can buy individual items as you deem best for your particular needs.

The kits will still require the dies, shell holder and the components: cases, powder, bullets & primers. Saving the factory cases you've fired will eliminate the need for cases.

While Lee will do, I'd suggest one of the other three makers' kits. They'll provide a lifetime of service, making their higher cost worth it over the years. Or, you may get lucky and find what you need second hand.

Your first step should be to actually READ the reloading manual that should be in the kits. The instructions on reloading will show you how to assemble loads safely.

The total cost to assemble everything and begin using one of the kits will run roughly between $450 & $500. Later, adding a set of dies, shell holder, cases, bullets, primers & powder will be all you need for a new caliber. Depending, you may not even need another shell holder, primers or powder.

It's a great hobby and necessary if you shoot a lot and don't have deep pockets.
 
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When limited to 100yds., I like to shoot a series of clay targets, then for the second stage, shoot the pieces. Alternating from prone to bench to standing unsupported. Breaks the monotony! I really like the shotgun shell idea, there are plenty of those lying around at the public range where I shoot.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Crockett</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When limited to 100yds., I like to shoot a series of clay targets, then for the second stage, shoot the pieces. Alternating from prone to bench to standing unsupported. Breaks the monotony! I really like the shotgun shell idea, there are plenty of those lying around at the public range where I shoot. </div></div>

Yea it was funny I was shooting paper all day and was looking around for something fun to shoot. So I picked up a few good sized rocks and some shotgun shells and started shooting those. The rocks really explode and shoot dust everywhere its pretty cool. I would put some eye protection on if you are shooting rocks though just in case.

Doubs, I think I'm going to go ahead an purchase a RCBS Rock Chucker press and then buy everything separately. None of the kits really have the things I'd want, such as electronic powder scales and calipers and things like that. Thanks a lot for your help!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I actually just went to the range 2 days ago and shot it. I'm now almost finished breaking the barrel in. I was limited to 100 yards at the range I was at. It's still printing tiny groups every time with the holes touching each other and I was firing prone off a bipod with NO rear bag. I'm new to high-power shooting and find it no problem hitting anything I aim at. I was shooting spent shotgun shells at 100 yards and didn't miss any of them...This thing is a laser. <span style="color: #000099"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> I must say you have to buy the FGMM.</span> </span>Anything cheap won't produce results. I don't mean to sound cocky, but after last weekend I'm getting bored of it already. 100 yards has become a real joke. I can't wait till I join Cumberland Riflemen where they have a 600 yard range. Just waiting for their interview process. I'm waiting to send my bolt back until I have to head back to school in Boston this Sunday...
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The guy I bought my SPS from tried out a few different types of ammo (Federal GMM included) and he found that Hornady TAP 168gr Amax shot the tightest out of everything he tried.
Obviously every rifle is different, but it's definitely worth a shot.
 
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Shooting at 100yds, rain doesn't have that much effect on the bullet, but it does make it more difficult for the shooter to concentrate, and depending on how hard it is raining, you may have trouble seeing your target. It definitely makes things more challenging. Less comfortable, but more challenging.LOL
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Semour Gunz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: generalzip</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I actually just went to the range 2 days ago and shot it. I'm now almost finished breaking the barrel in. I was limited to 100 yards at the range I was at. It's still printing tiny groups every time with the holes touching each other and I was firing prone off a bipod with NO rear bag. I'm new to high-power shooting and find it no problem hitting anything I aim at. I was shooting spent shotgun shells at 100 yards and didn't miss any of them...This thing is a laser. <span style="color: #000099"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> I must say you have to buy the FGMM.</span> </span>Anything cheap won't produce results. I don't mean to sound cocky, but after last weekend I'm getting bored of it already. 100 yards has become a real joke. I can't wait till I join Cumberland Riflemen where they have a 600 yard range. Just waiting for their interview process. I'm waiting to send my bolt back until I have to head back to school in Boston this Sunday...
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The guy I bought my SPS from tried out a few different types of ammo (Federal GMM included) and he found that Hornady TAP 168gr Amax shot the tightest out of everything he tried.
Obviously every rifle is different, but it's definitely worth a shot. </div></div>

Honestly, even if it did shoot better I couldnt justify spending an extra 10-15 dollars a box on ammo when I'm getting sub half MOA groups at 100 yards with the FGMM. I also have a supplier near me that always stocks the 168 gr FGMM. I really want to start reloading soon however so I can try different bullets.

As for reloading does this sound like a decent load to start?

Lapua Brass/left over FGMM brass
41 "and then work up" grains IMR 4895 or Reloader 15 or Varget powder
Federal or CCI Primers
168/175 gr SMK or Hornady 168/178 gr Amax

I apologize for hijacking this thread, but the topic seemed dead and complete awhile ago.

If anyone has any suggestions for loads to start with please let me know.

Also whats the deal with these Moly bullets? Are they worth the extra money? Will they harm the barrel?
 
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Skip the Moly.

If you are new to reloading start at the "starting charge" listed in your reloading manual. Load at least one or two at half-grain increments until you get to where you really want to start your development at.

My preferred load for my 700 is a 175smk with 43gr of RE15 and CCI200 primers in Winchester brass. No crimp.

Remember you can spend forever working up the perfect load. I just prefer to shoot. Once I get sub-MOA it's good enough for what I do.
 
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"Honestly, even if it did shoot better I couldnt justify spending an extra 10-15 dollars a box on ammo when I'm getting sub half MOA groups at 100 yards with the FGMM."

Not sure what you mean about spending $10-$15 more per box. From what I've seen, the Hornady is usually the same price if not cheaper than the GMM.

I do agree that reloading is definitely the best way to go though. I was lucky enough to find a complete reloading setup, including .223 and .308 dies, a digital scale, calipers, brass and bullets used for $250 shipped. The only other things I had to buy were a trimmer ($65), a used tumbler with new media($25)
powder and primers.
I am really just getting started so if anyone has any load recommendations for an SPS 20" using 168gr. bullets (SMKs or Amax) and Varget, I would be interested as well.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Semour Gunz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I am really just getting started so if anyone has any load recommendations for an SPS 20" using 168gr. bullets (SMKs or Amax) and Varget, I would be interested as well. </div></div>

My suggestion is to not waste a workup on the 168's.

The only reason I shoot 168smks is because that is what my duty load is. So if I don't want to have to adjust my dope, I run them. Otherwise I almost exclusively shoot 175gr Sierra Match Kings. 178 Amax are good as well, but my rifle likes the SMK's better.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My suggestion is to not waste a workup on the 168's.

The only reason I shoot 168smks is because that is what my duty load is. So if I don't want to have to adjust my dope, I run them. Otherwise I almost exclusively shoot 175gr Sierra Match Kings. 178 Amax are good as well, but my rifle likes the SMK's better. </div></div>

Why do you prefer the 175 SMK over the 168 SMK? Are they simply better at long range because of the extra weight and higher BC?

So far, I've only shot 150 (bulk bullets) and 168 SMK's in my rifle with a 1:12 twist. (The 150's were only to get me on paper.) Would I be better off with the 175's?

(Edited) Just as SG below, I'm limited to just under 400 yards. Friends who have much more long distance experience than I seem sold on the 168 grain SMK and my test groups so far indicate that my rifle likes them. However, I'm open to all suggestions that others experiences have given them the wisdom to pass on.
 
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LoneWolfUSMC,

The reason I was looking at the 168s is that most of my shooting is 100-200 yds and the longest range I have access to (in the state) is 400 yds. Occasionally I will go out of state and may approach 800-1000yds, in which case I would definitely opt for a heavier bullet. My other rifle shoots the best with 168 Fed GMM, so my thought was to basically duplicate that and tailor it to my rifle.
Do you think there is still an advantage to shooting the 175-178s at 400yds or less? If so, I would take your advice and just work up one load for each rifle with the heavier bullets.
Thanks,
Matt