.33 Nosler or .338wm. for ELR?
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338WM is less ideal than 300WM. Just heavier slower less BCcartridges. Maybe you mean 338Laua Magnum? 300WM with 225 ELD's pushing at 2836fps can go a mile no problem.
33 Nosler seems more suited to hunters, YMMV
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33 Nosler seems more suited to hunters, YMMV
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If your sticking with that bolt face just go with the edge
Any reason for those two cartridges specifically? Generally you don't see 338WM just because there are better options; 338 Lapua being most notable. It simply cannot push high enough bc bullets at the velocities needed to be of very much use. For sake of comparison, with a 250gr partition (Hornady's reloading data), you're looking at around 2600fps for WM vs 2800fps for Lapua. It's not uncommon to see weights in the 275-300gr range for LM either, and bc is king when you're talking distance. Quickly plugging it in shows the following data: 338WM, supersonic to 1300 yards, come up at 1750 +97.70 MOA; 338 LM, supersonic to 1400 yards, come up at 1750 +82.38 MOA (almost 22ft less vertical drop). Just plugging in numbers, take it as you will. But that's my take. Hope it helps
Definitely look at the edge though I did enjoy my 338/375 ruger xl throated long for 300’s
So I lied about the. 33 nosler pre fit. McGowan can make them. Same for the .338 ultra mag. NSS does not offer them.
I’ve had great results with McGowen barrels! They shoot great! Adg makes edge brass. Also 338 rum but you’ll be happier with the edge imo
Also you can order a prefit unchambered and have Shawn carlok do a plus p edge. Defensive edge
Also you can order a prefit unchambered and have Shawn carlok do a plus p edge. Defensive edge
im not the expert but the 338 lapua based magazines seemed a little short for the ultra mags true potential.
Looking online at people running hogged out internal mags and loading to 4.0 coal with 30 inch barrels and it’s mighty impressive for that standard mag bolt face.
On the topic of big magazines. Weatherby did a custom of sorts at one time with their 6.5-300 in dbm form. Long sucker that was proprietary as they said.
Then there’s the one they had for the TRR 338-378 with that open slot in the side.
Looking online at people running hogged out internal mags and loading to 4.0 coal with 30 inch barrels and it’s mighty impressive for that standard mag bolt face.
On the topic of big magazines. Weatherby did a custom of sorts at one time with their 6.5-300 in dbm form. Long sucker that was proprietary as they said.
Then there’s the one they had for the TRR 338-378 with that open slot in the side.
STD mag bolt face, Edge or Edge +P would be the best choice right now... Although I have my eye on something with a bit more punch
338WM with chamber set up specifically for 250 or 300 Berger hybrid, will do better than when loaded 3.370” OAL to fit Win 70 mag box.
Ideal ELR round? No.
Need to look at some data, extrapolate for a properly configured chamber.
Ideal ELR round? No.
Need to look at some data, extrapolate for a properly configured chamber.
I really want a 375 but financial reasons might have me go 338 edge or 338 Norma with 250 class olids in a long barrel.
The numbers are impressive
The numbers are impressive
I shoot a 338win Mag. 230gr eld-x with 4350 running 2905-2910fps for my barrel node. Can go up to 3000fps without pressure. RL19 I can push to 3100fps without pressure but is a compressed load. Many elk have never got up with that round during hunting season, and during off season, the steel swing back and forth past 1000 yards.
I know I'm late to the thread, but I built this 33 Nosler Howa out of a M1500 338 Win Mag I had bought. Main reason was that I hated shooting it with the shorter pencil barrel because it wanted to jump up too much and was unbalanced especially with the almost nonexistent recoil pad(got scoped a couple of times).
I ended up ordering the 28" Remington sendero contour barrel in 33 nosler from Mcgowen with the howage barrel nut and wrench on last year's black Friday special. Got the headspace gauges from Pacific tool and gauge
Main reason for 33 nosler was that I didn't want to modify the action or bolt along with the inlet in the stock to make an Edge or RUM work in it. I did have to open the barrel channel a good bit so it would fit and removed the old recoil pad and installed a new one, but that was all. Earlier I was getting 3025 fps with the 225gr nosler E-tip with 84 gr 4831sc. Should have some 265gr ABLR coming soon and see what they yield.
The dies and cases I get from Grafs since they have the "bulk" unprimed 33 nosler 50 cases for $70 vs the ready to fire at 25 for $73. The bulk you just have to resize and check length before you load them up. So far everything I've loaded has been sub moa at the most but still have some testing to do.
I ended up ordering the 28" Remington sendero contour barrel in 33 nosler from Mcgowen with the howage barrel nut and wrench on last year's black Friday special. Got the headspace gauges from Pacific tool and gauge
Main reason for 33 nosler was that I didn't want to modify the action or bolt along with the inlet in the stock to make an Edge or RUM work in it. I did have to open the barrel channel a good bit so it would fit and removed the old recoil pad and installed a new one, but that was all. Earlier I was getting 3025 fps with the 225gr nosler E-tip with 84 gr 4831sc. Should have some 265gr ABLR coming soon and see what they yield.
The dies and cases I get from Grafs since they have the "bulk" unprimed 33 nosler 50 cases for $70 vs the ready to fire at 25 for $73. The bulk you just have to resize and check length before you load them up. So far everything I've loaded has been sub moa at the most but still have some testing to do.
In a regular magnum bolt face the 338 edge is the clear winner IMHO. If you decide to go smaller than a 338RUM then your simply better off dropping to a 30 cal, 7mm, or even a 6.5 to try and pull off ELR shooting.
