what is your opinions on the new ruger mags 375-416. which is better in their class because i was looking at building one off a savage action with a mag bolt of course.
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Hunting & Fishing 375-416 ruger
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Re: 375-416 ruger
Just my opinion, but based on the sometimes sketchy availability of ruger brass, you might think of something the same but a little different.
I have an action up a pac-nor being barreled in .375 chatfield-taylor. this is nothing more than a .338 winmag case necked up to .375. The ballistics between the .375 ruger mag, 375 H&H mag, and the .375 taylor are almost identical (kind of like the 'ol 260, 6.5CM, and 47L). I chose the Taylor because you can always find 338 winmag brass and you can still push a 270gr pill out of a 22 inch barrel in the 2700-2750 range.
Just a thought, they have more info on the caliber over on the campfire forum.
Just my opinion, but based on the sometimes sketchy availability of ruger brass, you might think of something the same but a little different.
I have an action up a pac-nor being barreled in .375 chatfield-taylor. this is nothing more than a .338 winmag case necked up to .375. The ballistics between the .375 ruger mag, 375 H&H mag, and the .375 taylor are almost identical (kind of like the 'ol 260, 6.5CM, and 47L). I chose the Taylor because you can always find 338 winmag brass and you can still push a 270gr pill out of a 22 inch barrel in the 2700-2750 range.
Just a thought, they have more info on the caliber over on the campfire forum.
Re: 375-416 ruger
The .416 Taylor is a great round, very comprable to the .416 Rem mag. Sweet results w/ 325 gr bullets,very managable recoil. Excellent moose and brown bear cartridge, in my opinion.
I was on a promo hunt for Brown bear with a .375 Ruger last spring; it didn't do anything my .375 H&H doesn't do better. The H&H definately feeds out of the magazine better than the Ruger cases- that was a bit of an issue, as the bear in question was leaving the country after the first hit from the Ruger- I ended up needing to put a couple back-up shots from my H&H downrange before it hit thick cover.
The .416 Taylor is a great round, very comprable to the .416 Rem mag. Sweet results w/ 325 gr bullets,very managable recoil. Excellent moose and brown bear cartridge, in my opinion.
I was on a promo hunt for Brown bear with a .375 Ruger last spring; it didn't do anything my .375 H&H doesn't do better. The H&H definately feeds out of the magazine better than the Ruger cases- that was a bit of an issue, as the bear in question was leaving the country after the first hit from the Ruger- I ended up needing to put a couple back-up shots from my H&H downrange before it hit thick cover.
Re: 375-416 ruger
As far as Ruger 375 vs 416 I thing think the 375 is a more versatile choice.
The 375R has slightly greater capacity than the H&H so it easily matches the ballistic of one of the greatest cartridges of all time....What more can you ask?
The 416 has somewhat less case capacity than the 416Remington...Which I think is a mistake given the very long 400grain bullets it is intended to shoot...Especially if you plan on going to Africa.
Finally there is the recoil of the 416...while most shooters manage the 375 fairly easily most never learn to master a 416. The 416s require muscle tension (push pull)to hold them under recoil which further complicates field accuracy issues. How about shooting a 416 prone?...You better do it right!
All of this can be managed, but this is a learned process that is only learned be sending a great deal of very expensive ammunition down range (price out a box of 400 grain TSX!)...Most will not do it.
So I don't recommend it.
I would not build a 375 Ruger on a Savage action.
For less money you could sell the Savage and buy the real deal and it will function as a DGR should. The Ruger is a great bargain for the money.
Some of the earlier rifles had some reported feeding issues. Today it seems the new rifles feed very well. My buds feeds perfectly.
Whatever you do put the rife in a stock designed to work with higher recoil levels (straighter/less drop and a more open grip). Rifle fit is key, but at higher recoil levels and where dangerous game is concerned it is essential to get back on target as quickly and as smoothly as possible.
McMillan is your friend.
Peace
As far as Ruger 375 vs 416 I thing think the 375 is a more versatile choice.
The 375R has slightly greater capacity than the H&H so it easily matches the ballistic of one of the greatest cartridges of all time....What more can you ask?
The 416 has somewhat less case capacity than the 416Remington...Which I think is a mistake given the very long 400grain bullets it is intended to shoot...Especially if you plan on going to Africa.
Finally there is the recoil of the 416...while most shooters manage the 375 fairly easily most never learn to master a 416. The 416s require muscle tension (push pull)to hold them under recoil which further complicates field accuracy issues. How about shooting a 416 prone?...You better do it right!
All of this can be managed, but this is a learned process that is only learned be sending a great deal of very expensive ammunition down range (price out a box of 400 grain TSX!)...Most will not do it.
So I don't recommend it.
I would not build a 375 Ruger on a Savage action.
For less money you could sell the Savage and buy the real deal and it will function as a DGR should. The Ruger is a great bargain for the money.
Some of the earlier rifles had some reported feeding issues. Today it seems the new rifles feed very well. My buds feeds perfectly.
Whatever you do put the rife in a stock designed to work with higher recoil levels (straighter/less drop and a more open grip). Rifle fit is key, but at higher recoil levels and where dangerous game is concerned it is essential to get back on target as quickly and as smoothly as possible.
McMillan is your friend.
Peace
