just started reloading .45 ACP and I got a pretty good deal on some range brass.I thought i remembered reading here on the hide that there were a few types of head stamps to stay clear of and was wondering what they were if any? its going into a Glock 30 if that matters
.45 ACP brass to stay away from?
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Re: .45 ACP brass to stay away from?
Any does fine for most applications. I was only particular with my Bullseye match rounds. The only thing you have to watch out for when using "range brass" is ensuring primer size. Most .45ACP brass are large primer pocket, but small primer is getting more common. Small primer cases work great, except with large primers.
Kevin
Any does fine for most applications. I was only particular with my Bullseye match rounds. The only thing you have to watch out for when using "range brass" is ensuring primer size. Most .45ACP brass are large primer pocket, but small primer is getting more common. Small primer cases work great, except with large primers.
Kevin
Re: .45 ACP brass to stay away from?
Whatever you do stay away from the small primers. This will ensure I stay able to buy range brass of the small pocket variety on the cheap
Supply and demand at work.
Whatever you do stay away from the small primers. This will ensure I stay able to buy range brass of the small pocket variety on the cheap
Re: .45 ACP brass to stay away from?
I have bought alot of small primer .45 acp brass extremely cheap and sometimes get it for free because nobody wants it. After chronographing both large and small with the same powder charge there is a negligeable difference. I think the only ones that will have problems with it are folks with progressives.
I have bought alot of small primer .45 acp brass extremely cheap and sometimes get it for free because nobody wants it. After chronographing both large and small with the same powder charge there is a negligeable difference. I think the only ones that will have problems with it are folks with progressives.
Re: .45 ACP brass to stay away from?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: armorpl8chikn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whatever you do stay away from the small primers. This will ensure I stay able to buy range brass of the small pocket variety on the cheap
Supply and demand at work. </div></div>
Cheap hell, I've got a buddy that gives it to me. No matter how many times he sees me using it for everything from powder puff loads to full house loads, he insists it's inferior. With him giving it away, I'm not going to try too hard to convince him otherwise
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: armorpl8chikn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whatever you do stay away from the small primers. This will ensure I stay able to buy range brass of the small pocket variety on the cheap
Cheap hell, I've got a buddy that gives it to me. No matter how many times he sees me using it for everything from powder puff loads to full house loads, he insists it's inferior. With him giving it away, I'm not going to try too hard to convince him otherwise
Re: .45 ACP brass to stay away from?
I was shooting a few weeks ago with a friend who was once my boss. While shooting a variety of pistols I noticed a couple of young and very pretty women shooting .45 and .40 cal autos in the bays next to us.
I complimented them on their choice of cartridge, capable shooting and assured them I was not trying to scrounge their brass while picking up my own. The range in question is a little nutty about sweeping up brass while we shoot, before we have time to pick it up. So I try to be attentive to mine before it goes into the buckets we aren't supposed to raid...
To my great pleasure, the young ladies presented me with all the brass they fired. Naturally, I was unconcerned about the primer size of the .45 acp cases. I can load either size and it's always a good day when lovely young things are walking toward me rather than fleeing in revulsion!
I was shooting a few weeks ago with a friend who was once my boss. While shooting a variety of pistols I noticed a couple of young and very pretty women shooting .45 and .40 cal autos in the bays next to us.
I complimented them on their choice of cartridge, capable shooting and assured them I was not trying to scrounge their brass while picking up my own. The range in question is a little nutty about sweeping up brass while we shoot, before we have time to pick it up. So I try to be attentive to mine before it goes into the buckets we aren't supposed to raid...
To my great pleasure, the young ladies presented me with all the brass they fired. Naturally, I was unconcerned about the primer size of the .45 acp cases. I can load either size and it's always a good day when lovely young things are walking toward me rather than fleeing in revulsion!
Re: .45 ACP brass to stay away from?
The only reason I stay away from small primer 45 is if it accidently gets mixed in with my other brass and i try to reprime it on my progressive you get a little suprise
The only reason I stay away from small primer 45 is if it accidently gets mixed in with my other brass and i try to reprime it on my progressive you get a little suprise
Re: .45 ACP brass to stay away from?
Who was the moron that decided that 45 cap needed small primers after 100 years of large only? I ran into this recently buying mixed brass and this is crazy. I guess we are lucky that 45 is not too hdd on brass at least so if you have a good stash of large only you can use them for a while which is what I am going to do rather than risk it.
It will be a major pain to get smalls mixed in with a progressive press.
Who was the moron that decided that 45 cap needed small primers after 100 years of large only? I ran into this recently buying mixed brass and this is crazy. I guess we are lucky that 45 is not too hdd on brass at least so if you have a good stash of large only you can use them for a while which is what I am going to do rather than risk it.
It will be a major pain to get smalls mixed in with a progressive press.
Re: .45 ACP brass to stay away from?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rotts4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who was the moron that decided that 45 cap needed small primers after 100 years of large only? I ran into this recently buying mixed brass and this is crazy. I guess we are lucky that 45 is not too hdd on brass at least so if you have a good stash of large only you can use them for a while which is what I am going to do rather than risk it.
It will be a major pain to get smalls mixed in with a progressive press. </div></div>
You ever hear of sorting your brass? Pretty simple really.
If a small primer won't light 5 grains of WW231 its news to me.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rotts4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who was the moron that decided that 45 cap needed small primers after 100 years of large only? I ran into this recently buying mixed brass and this is crazy. I guess we are lucky that 45 is not too hdd on brass at least so if you have a good stash of large only you can use them for a while which is what I am going to do rather than risk it.
It will be a major pain to get smalls mixed in with a progressive press. </div></div>
You ever hear of sorting your brass? Pretty simple really.
If a small primer won't light 5 grains of WW231 its news to me.
Re: .45 ACP brass to stay away from?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rotts4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who was the moron that decided that 45 cap needed small primers after 100 years of large only? I ran into this recently buying mixed brass and this is crazy. I guess we are lucky that 45 is not too hdd on brass at least so if you have a good stash of large only you can use them for a while which is what I am going to do rather than risk it.
It will be a major pain to get smalls mixed in with a progressive press.</div></div>
"Small Primer" .45 ACP first emerged when "lead-free" rounds hit the shelves. The first ones I saw were Winchester "WinClean" at a local indoor range. When our department went lead-free, it was Speer Lawman CF (small primer). To my limited knowledge, all LF primers are small.
I'm sure it is an economic-based manufacturing decision, and I'm now seeing non-LF ammo with small primers. I noticed I have several boxes of Federal .45 ACP (non-LF) with small primers. Using this premise, the manufacturers have one primer size for LF or non-LF and one case. I set up my progressive for primer size, then caliber, and crank 'em out.
BTW, ammo manufacturers could GABRA about our reloading inconvenience.
Kevin
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rotts4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who was the moron that decided that 45 cap needed small primers after 100 years of large only? I ran into this recently buying mixed brass and this is crazy. I guess we are lucky that 45 is not too hdd on brass at least so if you have a good stash of large only you can use them for a while which is what I am going to do rather than risk it.
It will be a major pain to get smalls mixed in with a progressive press.</div></div>
"Small Primer" .45 ACP first emerged when "lead-free" rounds hit the shelves. The first ones I saw were Winchester "WinClean" at a local indoor range. When our department went lead-free, it was Speer Lawman CF (small primer). To my limited knowledge, all LF primers are small.
I'm sure it is an economic-based manufacturing decision, and I'm now seeing non-LF ammo with small primers. I noticed I have several boxes of Federal .45 ACP (non-LF) with small primers. Using this premise, the manufacturers have one primer size for LF or non-LF and one case. I set up my progressive for primer size, then caliber, and crank 'em out.
BTW, ammo manufacturers could GABRA about our reloading inconvenience.
Kevin
Re: .45 ACP brass to stay away from?
stay clear of the A MERC headstamp, I found lots of them with the primer pocket off center and the brass won't keep a taper crimp worth a crap. Recycle that S%*t.
S&B brass is good but their primer pocket is very tight with stright walls, while loading it on my 1050, I adjust the crimp remover tool to give it a slight bevel, after that, no more crush primers.
Small primers are a pain in the ass to sort if mixed in with the large ones, other than that they load just fine.
stay clear of the A MERC headstamp, I found lots of them with the primer pocket off center and the brass won't keep a taper crimp worth a crap. Recycle that S%*t.
S&B brass is good but their primer pocket is very tight with stright walls, while loading it on my 1050, I adjust the crimp remover tool to give it a slight bevel, after that, no more crush primers.
Small primers are a pain in the ass to sort if mixed in with the large ones, other than that they load just fine.
