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I don't believe so. They have a single shot bolt but no mag fed bolt and their single shot is about $1k more than the shtfDoes Serbu make one?
Makes sense. I'll bet one could figure out a way to attach weights to it if it were too unpleasant at 20ish pounds. The brake that comes with it looks like it works pretty well from the videos I've seen, they look like they kick less than a 12 gauge with turkey loads but I guess it's hard to tell from the videos, I know a 2 oz turkey load in a mossberg pump gun has given me some bruises over the years lol. But yeah I'd definitely go with the 29". Just don't seem to see anyone talk about the SHTFThey are awfully light weight for a 50. From their site:
Weight:
18″Barrel: 12.0 lbs
22″Barrel: 12.5 lbs
29″Barrel: 15.5 lbs
Weight does not include weight of the lower.
If you are planning on shooting one more than a three times in a range visit, I would pass. You will want a rifle in the 32+ lb range to actually enjoy the experience. I've shot a 26lb rifle and after 5 shots it's not fun anymore. Adding on 8lb made it fun to shoot.
Even if you can tolerate the recoil mentally, your shoulder can bruise with something that light in 50 bmg under repeated firing. That 26lb rifle I mentioned would turn my skin yellow the next day after 20 shots.
Also avoid anything under 29". Always double up with plugs & muffs. These guns require doubled up hearing protection, and even that isn't enough to be completely hearing safe.
Not mag fed. Do you have any basis for a negative opinion of the shtf?Buy a real 50
Armalite AR50A1 is a excellent choice on the cheaper end
Nothing other than anybody who’s seen one thinks the same thing holding that or a SerbuNot mag fed. Do you have any basis for a negative opinion of the shtf?
I doubt he’s looking to spend the $$ for that hahaMy Serbu semi auto is awesome.
Haters are jelly
You can get the 99 chambered in .416 oh how I'd enjoy the dayBarrett 99 or ar50
Fucking savageMy Serbu semi auto is awesome.
Haters are jelly
Have you actually heard of a failure of a bolt action 50 though? That serbu piece of shit that blew up on the Kentucky ballistics guy with the screw on cap design doesn't countNothing other than anybody who’s seen one thinks the same thing holding that or a Serbu
Should the weapon fail (and don’t think it can’t) what will happen to the shooter?
I owned a Serbu. I will never own one again
The Armalite is “overbuilt” compared to SHTF and Serbu designs
50’s aren’t a place to cheap out if you encounter a failure. I think Scott from Kentucky Ballistics would second that
True I wouldn't be opposed to a single shot. My thought with the shtf is that you could use it as a single shot with the mag removed as an optionMag fed is over rated for 50 in my opinion unless you are going semi auto. It's not hard to reload single feed 50 bmg quickly. The barrels also heat up fast so the time it takes to add another cartridge is less than the cool down you will be waiting anyway.
If you want to enjoy shooting what you bought, get something heavier that is a dedicated 50 rifle instead of a compromise. And as an extra note unless you are shooting match ammo or reloads, accuracy is going to garbage with mil spec stuff. Some lots of 660 ball I was getting up to 7 moa. Best case around 4 moa across two rifles.
Edit; I estimated recoil energy on a 20lb 50 bmg.
- 7.5lb 12 gauge shotgun is 17 to 32~ ft lb
- 20lb 50 bmg is 148~ ft lb for 660 ball ammo , assume brake is 50% effective and cut it down to 74 ft lb
- 32lb 50 bmg is 93~ ft lb for 660 ball ammo, cut 50% and it's 46~ ft lb
Lol do you actually have any first hand experience or know anyone who's had an shtf failing? So far I haven't found anyone on this site or the other forum I posted on who's actually had one, just hearsay
They look interesting, I'd think the left hand bolt would be impossible to work while standing but I guess you probably never shoot it unsupportedI don't know much about 50 cal stuff, but what about a Bushmaster BA50? They seem decent. I could be wrong though.
How many RN 50’s have you heard of failing?Have you actually heard of a failure of a bolt action 50 though? That serbu piece of shit that blew up on the Kentucky ballistics guy with the screw on cap design doesn't count
The screw cap one is an obviously a weak garbage design to anyone with working eyes, a bolt gun with lugs is a completely different beast. Unless you can show why the serbu bolt or shtf bolt is weak or "not a real 50 cal" then you're just basing that on.... What? Price? Serbu has some pretty high priced gunsHow many RN 50’s have you heard of failing?
Other than the one that almost killed the guy using it…..
Again,
Buy a real 50 cal
Or get a top of the line Vulcan/Hesse/Blackthorne
I don't know much about 50 cal stuff, but what about a Bushmaster BA50? They seem decent. I could be wrong though.
I didn't know Bushmaster and Remington were affiliated.
So finally tracked down someone with a SHTF 50 who has shot for groups and this is a group at 600 yards. Not bad for a gun that's not "a real 50 cal"How many RN 50’s have you heard of failing?
Other than the one that almost killed the guy using it…..
Again,
Buy a real 50 cal
Or get a top of the line Vulcan/Hesse/Blackthorne