6.5 Grendel loads?

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Wannashootit

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    Looked up in the Depot but didn't see a thread on this...
    We're building our first AR this weekend in this caliber.
    Got 5 boxes of the Hornady 123 A-Max's to start, and get our brass stash going...

    I have Varget and H335 on hand, but neither of these seem to be preferred for this round from what I see.

    Prefer a temp-stable powder...

    18" barrel, 1 in 8 twist..

    Also, this is our first semi-auto we're going to handload for.
    Are the chambers too big to do our usual OAL gauge with the Bullet Comparator to load to the lands? Should we just load to OAL?
     
    #4
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Here you go I found it:</span></span>

    6.5 Grendel Reloading Data

    users online loads @ 65grendelforum.com updated 9/28/10

    BULLET BULLET POWDER POWDER
    CASE BULLET WIEGHT TYPE TYPE CHARGE PRIMER OAL

    Lapua Sierra 85 gr. HP BL-C(2) 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
    Lapua Sierra 85 gr. HP H-335 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
    Lapua Sierra 85 gr. HP H-335 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
    Lapua Sierra 85 gr. HP H-335 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
    Lapua Sierra 85 gr. HP VV N-530 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.200"

    AA Speer 90 gr. TNT H-335 31.4 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
    AA Speer 90 gr. TNT H-335 31.6 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
    Lapua Speer 90 gr. TNT Benchmark 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.200"

    Lapua Hornady 95 gr. V-MAX TAC 30.8 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
    AA Hornady 95 gr. V-MAX H-335 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.160"
    AA Hornady 95 gr. V-MAX Benchmark 30.0 gr. CCI #400 2.200"
    Lapua Hornady 95 gr. V-MAX Xterminator 30.4 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
    Lapua Hornady 95 gr. V-MAX Xterminator 30.6 gr. CCI #450 2.200"

    AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 29.6 gr. CCI #450 -------
    AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 30.0 gr. CCI #450 ---------
    AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip H-335 29.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip H-335 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip H-335 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip Xterminator 29.3 gr. CCI #450 ---------
    Lapua Nosler 100gr. Ballistic Tip AA 2520 31.0 gr. CCI #450 ---------
    AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip Benchmark 29.1 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.230"
    Lapua Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 29.7gr. CCI #450 ---------
    Lapua Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 30.0 gr. CCI #450 --------
    Lapua Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 30.5 gr. CCI 3450 --------

    Lapua Lapua 100 gr. Scenar AA 2460 30.2 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    Lapua Lapua 100 gr. Scenar IMR 8208 XBR 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Lapua 100 gr. Scenar VV N-130 25.2 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Lapua 100 gr. Scenar VV N-530 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"

    Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing H-335 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    AA Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing H-335 28.9 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
    Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing BL-C(2) 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing BL-C(2) 32.0 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
    Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing VV N-133 26.1 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    AA Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing VV N-530 25.8 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    AA Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing VV N-530 26.1 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.260"
    Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing Benchmark 26.5 gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
    Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing Benchmark 27.0gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
    Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing Benchmark 28.0 gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
    Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing Benchmark 28.5 gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
    Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing Benchmark 29.0 gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
    AA Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing H-322 26.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing TAC 29.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"

    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar TAC 29.7gr. Cci #450 2.260"
    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar VV N-530 26.1 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar Benchmark 27.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar Benchmark 27.7 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar Benchmark 28.7 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar Benchmark 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar H-335 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar BL-C(2) 30.8 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar BL-C(2) 32.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar X-Term 29.5 gr. Cci #450 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar VV N-133 27.5 gr. CCI #450 2.265"

    AA Barnes 110 gr. Banded Solid TAC 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"

    AA Barnes 100 gr. TTSX H-335 29.5 gr. CCI #450
    AA Barnes 100 gr. TTSX H-335 30.0 gr. CCI #450
    AA Barnes 100 gr. TTSX Xterminator 30.7 gr. CCI #450

    Lapua Barnes 120 gr. TTSX Win 748 28.0 gr. CCI #450 ---------
    Lapua Barnes 120 gr. TTSX Win 748 29.0 gr. CCI #450 ---------
    Lapua Barnes 120 gr. TTSX Win 748 30.0 gr. CCI #450 ----------
    AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX TAC 28.5 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX TAC 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX TAC 29.5 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX AA 2520 30.4 gr. CCI #450 ---------
    AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX BL-C(2) 31.0 gr. CCI #450 ---------
    AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 ---------

    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 31.7 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    AA Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip RL-15 28.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip RL-15 29.0 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Benchmark 24.9 gr. CCI #400 -------
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip AA 2520 29.5gr. CCI #450 2.230"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip AA 2520 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip AA 2520 31.0 gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 27.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
    AA Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 28.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
    AA Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip H-335 27.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip H-335 28.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip VV N-530 25.7 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip VV N-135 26.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 31.5 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 31.7 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    AA Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip H-4895 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Varget 28.2 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Varget 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Varget 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.260"

    AA Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing H-322 26.5 gr. WSR 2.250"
    Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing Win 748 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing Win 748 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    AA Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing Varget 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
    Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 28.3 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
    Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 29.3 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
    Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
    Hornady Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 30.8 gr. CCI BR4 2.220"
    AA Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
    AA Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing TAC 28.5 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
    Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing VV N-530 25.7 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
    Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing VV N-135 26.0 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
    Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing H-335 27.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    AA Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing H-335 27.8 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
    Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing H-4895 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.220"

    AA Sierra 120 gr. Pro-Hunter SP TAC 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.235"
    AA Sierra 120 gr. Pro-Hunter SP TAC 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.235"

    Lapua Sierra 123 gr. MatchKing BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 -------
    AA Sierra 123 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 29.9 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
    AA Sierra 123 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 30.3 gr. CCI #450 2.220"

    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar VV N-530 25.7 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar VV N-140 27.2 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Win 748 28.5 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.265"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Win 748 29.0 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Win 748 29.5 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.265"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Win 748 30.3 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.265"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Benchmark 26.5 gr. CCI 400 2.260"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Varget 28.0 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar RL-15 29.5 gr. Fed. 205M 2.265"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar H-4895 27.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar VV N-135 26.0 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar TAC 27.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar TAC 28.1 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar TAC 28.6 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar AA 2520 29.0 gr. Cci #450 2.260"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar AA 2520 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
    Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar AA 2520 30.6 gr. CCI #450 2.265"

    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX AA 2520 28.0 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX AA 2520 28.5 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX AA 2520 29.0 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX AA 2520 29.5 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123gr. A-MAX AA 2520 30.0gr. CCI #450 --------
    Lapua Hornady 123gr. A-MAX AA 2520 30.6 gr. CCI #450 -------
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX TAC 27.2gr. Wolf 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX TAC 27.9gr. Wolf 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX TAC 28.3 gr. Wolf 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX Win 748 29.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX Win 748 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX Win 748 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX BL-C(2) 29.7 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"

    Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST BL-C(2) 29.3 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST BL-C(2) 29.5 gr. CCI #450 --------
    AA Hornady 129 gr. SST BL-C(2) 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST IMR 4895 27.2 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    AA Hornady 129 gr. SST TAC 26.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    AA Hornady 129 gr. SST TAC 27.6 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
    AA Hornady 129 gr. SST H-335 27.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST Win 748 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST Varget 26.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST AA 2520 28.5 gr. CCI #450 -------
    Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST AA 2230 23.8 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST AA 2230 24.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST AA 2230 25.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
    Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST AA 2230 25.8 gr. CCI #450 2.255"

    Lapua Berger 120 gr. Match TAC 28.2 gr. CCI #450 ------
    Lapua Berger 120 gr. Match TAC 28.8 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
    Lapua Berger 120 gr. Match TAC 29.1 gr. CCI #450 2.260"

    Lapua Hornady 120gr. A-MAX RL-15 27.4 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.165"

    Lapua Norma 130 gr. Target JHPBT VV N-140 26.5 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.260"
    </div></div>
     
    #5
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Here is MY 6.5 Grendel load data I have loaded up:</span></span>


    BULLET BULLET POWDER POWDER PRIMER BRASS BRASS
    TYPE WIEGHT CHARGE TYPE TYPE CASING TRIM OAL
    Nosler Balllistic Tip 100gr. 30.0gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.248"
    Nosler Balllistic Tip 100gr. 30.4gr. H-335 CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.248"
    Nosler Balllistic Tip 100gr. 30.5gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.515" 2.235"

    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 30.0gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Alex-A 1.514" 2.225"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 30.5gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.515" 2.230"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.0gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.3gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.6gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 27.5gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.230"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 28.0gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.230"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 28.5gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.230"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 29.5 gr. AA2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 30.2 gr. AA2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 30.6 gr. AA2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 28.6 gr. RL-15 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.240"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.4 gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Alex-A 1.515" 2.230"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.5 gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Alex-A 1.514" 2.230"
    Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.7gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.240"

    Sierra MatchKing 120gr. 31.5gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Lapua 1.515" 2.205"
    Sierra MatchKing 120gr. 27.0gr. H-335 Rem 7.5 Lapua 1.515" 2.190"
    Sierra MatchKing 120gr. 30.6gr. AA 2520 CCI BR-4 Alex-A 1.516" 2.220"
    Sierra MatchKing 120gr. 30.0gr. Win 748 Rem 7.5 Lapua 1.515" 2.205"

    Hornady V-MAX 95gr. 29.0gr. Benchmk CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.195"

    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 27.0gr. H-4895 CCI #450 Lapua 1.515" 2.245"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 29.0gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.258"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 29.5gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.258"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 30.0gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.258"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 30.5gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.258"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 27.5gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.250"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 28.1gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.250"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 28.6gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.250"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 29.0gr. AA 2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.255"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 30.0gr. AA 2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.255"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 30.6gr. AA 2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.255"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 28.0gr. Varget CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.245"
    Lapua Scenar 123gr. 31.4gr. BL-C(2) Rem 7.5 Lapua 1.516" 2.250"

    Sierra MatchKing 107gr. 29.1gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.255"
    Sierra MatchKing 107gr. 26.0gr. H-322 CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.245"
    Sierra MatchKing 107gr. 28.0gr. Benchmk CCI #450 Alex-A 1.514" 2.235"
    Sierra MatchKing 107gr. 28.0gr. H-335 CCI #450 Alex-A 1.514" 2.245"
    Sierra MatchKing 107gr. 31.0gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Alex-A 1.514" 2.245"

    Lapua Scenar 108gr. 32.0gr. BL-C(2) CCI BR-4 Lapua 1.516" 2.260"
    Lapua Scenar 108gr. 30.8gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.257"
    Lapua Scenar 108gr. 27.5gr. Benchmk CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.258"
    Lapua Scenar 108gr. 28.0gr. H-335 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.256"

    Hornady A-MAX 123gr. 30.2gr. AA 2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.515" 2.253"
    Hornady A-MAX 123gr. 30.0gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.252"

    Hornady SST 129gr. 30.0gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Lapua 1.514" 2.260"
    </div></div>
     
    #6
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JamesBailey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So it seems like ball powders are the way to go with the Grendels. I was curious to hear if anyone had any updated data to the above. Longrange30 was talking about the 123gr bullets and Win748. BLC2 seems to be used a lot as well.

    Any comments and observations would be welcomed. Thanks
    </div></div>

    From Hornady:

    65grendel_123amax.png
    </div></div>
     
    #9
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    THANKS!
    and THANKS again...

    You must have burned through a lot of powder.

    Mebbe you could save me some experimentation.
    Is there one load that stands out in the 120 gr. class, or you don't find much difference?

    I notice you have different OALs for the same bullet, with different loads. I can only assume you find a relationship between velocity, and bullet jump? That right?
     
    #10
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    Wannashootit,

    The one powder/load group that does stand out is AA2520 behind a 120/123

    The AA2520 gives about the best velocity for that case. Be careful though as Lapua is a lot more tolerant to max pressure than Hornady or formed Fed or Win brass.

    The new 123's, Hornady A-max (much longer and sleeker than the 120) and Sierra SMK do pretty good. And of course the bullet the round was pretty much built around, the 123 Lapua, will get you the best long distance performance.

    However, if just shooting out to 600 many feel that loading the relatively high BC Sierra 107's and Lapua 108's or even the Lapua 100's is better. Better because of the increase in velocity and BC plays a smaller part in the equation until farther out.

    Edit:

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wannashootit</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

    ...
    I have Varget and H335 on hand, but neither of these seem to be preferred for this round from what I see.

    Prefer a temp-stable powder...

    18" barrel, 1 in 8 twist..

    Also, this is our first semi-auto we're going to handload for.
    Are the chambers too big to do our usual OAL gauge with the Bullet Comparator to load to the lands? Should we just load to OAL?</div></div>

    AA2520 isn't the best temp stable powder for that case. Generally, I find H4895 Extreme is. Don't confuse that with any other type of 4895 powder. Get the Extreme. Varget is also a good powder with heavy bullets in that cartridge. It doesn't quite give the pressure that AA2520 does though. <span style="color: #3333FF">added: it's also an extreme powder. I've tested all of them and typically I get about 50 fps difference here in MN from +95 down to -18.</span>

    As for loading it, load for it like any other AR. Full size cases every time and load to magazine length. Maybe even give yourself .050" room between the bullet tip and the front of the magazine.

     
    #11
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    Several folks are now using and getting good results with IMR 8208 XBR. Start with 28.5 grains under a 123 SMK or AMAX. Much less temperature sensitive and cleaner than 2520.

    But you may have to do try a couple of different powders to find the right combo for you. My Grendel does not like Varget, although my .223 rifles do.
     
    #13
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RStewart</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Several folks are now using and getting good results with IMR 8208 XBR. Start with 28.5 grains under a 123 SMK or AMAX. Much less temperature sensitive and cleaner than 2520.

    But you may have to do try a couple of different powders to find the right combo for you. My Grendel does not like Varget, although my .223 rifles do.</div></div>

    Have you started using it yet? I'm thinking with the way it's made (I'm told) and it's normal burn speed it should be really good. It's got that soft pressure ceiling like RE-17 but burns just a bit faster than H4895.
     
    #16
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    Ive used 2520 and 8208 so far the 8208 has closer ES and S-D numbers but both work great, heres some info from over my magnetospeed crono, this is with a satern 20 inch grendel barrel,

    hornady 6.5 grendel factory
    Series 1 Shots: 10
    Min 2602 Max 2634
    Avg 2618 S-D 13
    ES 32

    Series Shot Speed
    1 1 2605 ft/sec
    1 2 2632 ft/sec
    1 3 2606 ft/sec
    1 4 2605 ft/sec
    1 5 2634 ft/sec
    1 6 2632 ft/sec
    1 7 2602 ft/sec
    1 8 2609 ft/sec
    1 9 2628 ft/sec
    1 10 2630 ft/sec

    grendel 123 amax 2520 29 gr
    Series 2 Shots: 10
    Min 2497 Max 2549
    Avg 2527 S-D 18
    ES 52

    Series Shot Speed
    2 1 2539 ft/sec
    2 2 2521 ft/sec
    2 3 2549 ft/sec
    2 4 2530 ft/sec
    2 5 2497 ft/sec
    2 6 2525 ft/sec
    2 7 2527 ft/sec
    2 8 2497 ft/sec
    2 9 2544 ft/sec
    2 10 2541 ft/sec

    grendel 8208 xbr 29 gr
    Series 3 Shots: 10
    Min 2543 Max 2583
    Avg 2567 S-D 12
    ES 40

    Series Shot Speed
    3 1 2578 ft/sec
    3 2 2558 ft/sec
    3 3 2566 ft/sec
    3 4 2566 ft/sec
    3 5 2583 ft/sec
    3 6 2575 ft/sec
    3 7 2553 ft/sec
    3 8 2574 ft/sec
    3 9 2579 ft/sec
    3 10 2543 ft/sec


    grendel 8208xbr 29.5gr 123 amax
    Series 9 Shots: 5
    Min 2570 Max 2589
    Avg 2582 S-D 7
    ES 19
    Series Shot Speed
    9 1 2583 ft/sec
    9 2 2586 ft/sec
    9 3 2570 ft/sec
    9 4 2583 ft/sec
    9 5 2589 ft/sec

    grendel 8208xbr 29gr
    Series 10 Shots: 5
    Min 2536 Max 2573
    Avg 2553 S-D 13
    ES 37

    Series Shot Speed
    10 1 2545 ft/sec
    10 2 2554 ft/sec
    10 3 2573 ft/sec
    10 4 2557 ft/sec
    10 5 2536 ft/sec





     
    #17
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    Another nod for 8208XBR. I load 28.3 grains with the 123 Amax and CCI 250 primer loaded to mag length. Getting 2600 from a 24" barrel. Low ES and SD. Consitant 3" groups at 700 yards. No pressure signs from my rifle but work your way up to it.
     
    #19
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    65Grendel.com will have a wealth of info for you.

    So far, my "go to" load is:
    123 Scenar
    Lapua (or Alexander arms) brass....Lapua makes both of them
    CCI 450 primer
    30.3 grains of W748 (max is 30.5)
    COAL 2.260-2.265 depending on which mag you use

    Other really good powders for this round are AA2520, and Tac. Interestingly, the Tac load I worked up shoots to the same point at 100,200,300 yards as my 748 load.

    Obviously, work up to these loads.

    The throats in this family of cartridges (6.5 Grendel, 6.5 CSS, 264 LBC, and others) can have quite a bit of subtle differences in the diameter of the neck, angle or angles of the throat, length of throat and other things that can GREATLY effect pressure.

    Email me if you can't find the list of load data in the Grendel forum, and I'll see if I can figure out how to get a copy to you.
     
    #21
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    Not certain how the balance of your chambers are cut, but both of my Grendels-one a 24" Satern and the other an 18" AA barrel-are touching the lands with 123 AMax at 2.255". At mag length of 2.265 or 2.270", you're .010 into the lands and setting up for a pressure spike-or leaving a bullet in the lands if trying to extract an unfired round. Neither desirable-I've been there. Just a word of caution, as the Grendel bolt is only good for 52k pressure on a regular basis, if my info is correct.
     
    #23
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?2804-More-Chrony-reports!!-((WARNING!))-lots-of-pics.

    Long thread, but some excellent data on variety of powders and bullet weights. Keep this one bookmarked-the contributors are working at the leading edge of what's out there for the Grendel.
     
    #26
    Re: 6.5 Grendel loads?

    18" ar15, AA button rifled barrel.

    123 amax
    Magazine length
    Imr xbr8208 28.4gr
    Lapua brass
    Wolf srm primer

    2510fps and .75-1.0 moa. Best I've gotten with this barrel.
     
    #32
    I've been using 26-28 gr of 8208XBR with the 120 and 123 SMKs and having good results. I tried loading some of the 107gr SMKs but they can't be seated out far enough due to magazine size. They are so far off the lands that accuracy has been pretty poor. Even the 120 and 123's are a bit far off at mag length for my chamber. Mine is 16" Doublestar upper. Its a lot of fun to shoot and much better than having another damn 22 rifle. All my brass is Lapua though some is alexander marked. I've not tried any of the hornady or privi stuff.

    Frank
     
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