I built a 7mm-08 AI using Stiller Predator, a 23" fluted RC #4 (heavy sporter) and BC Alaskan II. It came in at 7.5 lbs. less optic. I put a VX-R Patrol 3-9x40 on it because of it's light weight. It's worked surprisingly well for a hunting rifle. Unloaded it weighs in around 8.5 lbs.