Hey everyone, I'm new here. I'm building my first real accurate bolt rifle (Remy 700) in .223AI. The action is currently with my gunsmith awaiting a 1:8 Lilja barrel. I know the 75gr. A-Max is a really popular projectile for this cartridge. Does anyone have any experience loading with the 80gr. A-Max or the 80gr. VLDs? The 75s are out of stock everywhere I look, and the 80s are available. I'm just trying to get some components together for when I get my barreled action back so I can get out and shoot.
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Re: 80gr. .223AI loads?
I had this same ? last week. I called Hornady. Their response was 19.7 grains - 23.8 grains of Varget for .223. They had no load data for .223AI but said to start at 22 grains and work up.
Hope this helps.
Eddie
I had this same ? last week. I called Hornady. Their response was 19.7 grains - 23.8 grains of Varget for .223. They had no load data for .223AI but said to start at 22 grains and work up.
Hope this helps.
Eddie
Re: 80gr. .223AI loads?
I figure I've got about 2 months before I get my stuff back from the gunsmith. I've got some 75 Amax on order from Midway. I was thinking of picking up some of the 80gr. options to see if my gun likes them more or less than the 75s.
I figure I've got about 2 months before I get my stuff back from the gunsmith. I've got some 75 Amax on order from Midway. I was thinking of picking up some of the 80gr. options to see if my gun likes them more or less than the 75s.
Re: 80gr. .223AI loads?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: criver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">N-150, Rem 7-1/2BR WW brass 80 grain SMK. its money............. </div></div>
I've never shot the 80SMK, what makes you pick that bullet over the 75'max since the 80SMK has a lower BC and would be slower out of the gate? Do you just punch paper/shoot steel with it, or do you use it on critters? Honest question, no flame. The 75'max comes apart very well on critters and that's what I like to do with them so I naturally just use that bullet for my 1K shooting as well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: criver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">N-150, Rem 7-1/2BR WW brass 80 grain SMK. its money............. </div></div>
I've never shot the 80SMK, what makes you pick that bullet over the 75'max since the 80SMK has a lower BC and would be slower out of the gate? Do you just punch paper/shoot steel with it, or do you use it on critters? Honest question, no flame. The 75'max comes apart very well on critters and that's what I like to do with them so I naturally just use that bullet for my 1K shooting as well.
Re: 80gr. .223AI loads?
Brad, Hornady's manual shows a BC of .453 for the 75 Amax and .473 for the 80 Amax. In my conversations with Lonnie @ hornady he intimated a preference for the 80 for shooing over distance. I shoot the 80's in a 223AI with Varget (just past 25gr)....they are the business out to 600 yds.
They also shoot very well in a 22 X 6mm Rem out to 1000.
Brad, Hornady's manual shows a BC of .453 for the 75 Amax and .473 for the 80 Amax. In my conversations with Lonnie @ hornady he intimated a preference for the 80 for shooing over distance. I shoot the 80's in a 223AI with Varget (just past 25gr)....they are the business out to 600 yds.
They also shoot very well in a 22 X 6mm Rem out to 1000.
Re: 80gr. .223AI loads?
all of you 75'ers STAY AWAY from the 80's they are mine for my 22-250
80-amax Rock at 3200fps they punch steel and kill the shit out of everything
all of you 75'ers STAY AWAY from the 80's they are mine for my 22-250
80-amax Rock at 3200fps they punch steel and kill the shit out of everything
Re: 80gr. .223AI loads?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AKA-Spook</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Brad, Hornady's manual shows a BC of .453 for the 75 Amax and .473 for the 80 Amax. In my conversations with Lonnie @ hornady he intimated a preference for the 80 for shooing over distance. I shoot the 80's in a 223AI with Varget (just past 25gr)....they are the business out to 600 yds.
They also shoot very well in a 22 X 6mm Rem out to 1000. </div></div>
Interesting. The Hornady web site shows the 75gr A-Max with a claimed BC of .435 and the 80gr with a claimed BC of .453. I use the word "claimed" because I think they are over estimating their numbers by 15 to 20 points. For the long distance, I have had better results with the 80SMK than with the 75 A-Max. I never bothered with the 80A-Max because the 80JLK worked out well for me (claimed BC of .510 and my experience shows it's a little low.) I would think the 80A-Max probably has ballistics very similar to the 80SMK. If I had to step down from what I use now, I would most definitely go for the 80gr Amax before the 75Amax, but that's just me.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AKA-Spook</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Brad, Hornady's manual shows a BC of .453 for the 75 Amax and .473 for the 80 Amax. In my conversations with Lonnie @ hornady he intimated a preference for the 80 for shooing over distance. I shoot the 80's in a 223AI with Varget (just past 25gr)....they are the business out to 600 yds.
They also shoot very well in a 22 X 6mm Rem out to 1000. </div></div>
Interesting. The Hornady web site shows the 75gr A-Max with a claimed BC of .435 and the 80gr with a claimed BC of .453. I use the word "claimed" because I think they are over estimating their numbers by 15 to 20 points. For the long distance, I have had better results with the 80SMK than with the 75 A-Max. I never bothered with the 80A-Max because the 80JLK worked out well for me (claimed BC of .510 and my experience shows it's a little low.) I would think the 80A-Max probably has ballistics very similar to the 80SMK. If I had to step down from what I use now, I would most definitely go for the 80gr Amax before the 75Amax, but that's just me.
Re: 80gr. .223AI loads?
Sig, the 80JLK really is an impressive bullet. A guy I shoot with runs them in his AR and they shoot VERY well....We bought 5000 75amax's when Midway blew them out for $7/100, hard to pass that up.
I don't know what the JLK would do on critters though, have you shot anything with them yet? It's frangibility is the biggest reason I like the Amax. If I were starting fresh and I'd look at the 80JLK too.
Sig, the 80JLK really is an impressive bullet. A guy I shoot with runs them in his AR and they shoot VERY well....We bought 5000 75amax's when Midway blew them out for $7/100, hard to pass that up.
Re: 80gr. .223AI loads?
Ive been sending the 75Amax out of a 8.5 twist at 2900fps and talk about stupid accurate!!
My brother took a 12 point this year with the same load and talk about expansion....dropped him like a stone!
But I would also be interested in hearing about the 80.....
Ive been sending the 75Amax out of a 8.5 twist at 2900fps and talk about stupid accurate!!
My brother took a 12 point this year with the same load and talk about expansion....dropped him like a stone!
But I would also be interested in hearing about the 80.....
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