According to sources, the CMP is getting back 86,000 Garands from the Philippines for sale.
I think I need to get in on that!
Cheers,
Sirhr
I think I need to get in on that!
Cheers,
Sirhr
86,000 Garands from Philippines for CMP?
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With my current residency situation, I don't have a CMP affiliation, so if someone would be kind enough to grab me one??? 
Im hoping there were 50 Million rounds of ammo also being repatriated.
Lots of chatter how these are coming back because Obam is gone.
By law these would go to CMP regardless of Obam being or not being. As an aside Im happy he is not being.
These rifles were "lent" to the Phillipines as MAPP and must come back to America to be disposed of as directed by law - through the CMP.
While Obam was in office lots of Garands came back from Turkey. CMP collectors were excited because many were IHC guns. Iran received a lot of IHC guns in MAPP but they havent returned them yet. When they decide they do want to return them we may not want them because they could be hot and glow in the dark.
The Korean Garands on the other hand were bought and paid for by S. Korea. They must come back via an importer and thats where Obam was stopping them because he had the State dept sit on the license.
Maybe those will come back too now.
Lots of chatter how these are coming back because Obam is gone.
By law these would go to CMP regardless of Obam being or not being. As an aside Im happy he is not being.
These rifles were "lent" to the Phillipines as MAPP and must come back to America to be disposed of as directed by law - through the CMP.
While Obam was in office lots of Garands came back from Turkey. CMP collectors were excited because many were IHC guns. Iran received a lot of IHC guns in MAPP but they havent returned them yet. When they decide they do want to return them we may not want them because they could be hot and glow in the dark.
The Korean Garands on the other hand were bought and paid for by S. Korea. They must come back via an importer and thats where Obam was stopping them because he had the State dept sit on the license.
Maybe those will come back too now.
Yes there are 86K rifles loaded to the PI that will be returned to the army, then the CMP. BUT they will all have to be gone over by their armors, to check, repair, or strip for parts depending on the rifle.
The CMP had several thousand MIs on hand now, but are backlogged in getting them ready for sales. Right now they are trying to fill the back log from the last Field Grade offers.
One just has to be patent. Keep an eye on their website (sales), When they get caught up they will make another offer, And like before they'll be flooded with orders. Then they'll shut down again until they get caught up.
They have M1s now, without the PI rifles, so I wouldn't wait ,soon as they list them, jump on the band wagon. I have two, and just bought a third for my son. Shortly after I got my order in, they stopped taking orders, but the orders were on hand were filled.
The one I just got was a Field Grade but it was in excellent shape, and shot well.
But again, keep track of their web site, more will be offered before they are close to be ready to sell the PI returns/
The CMP had several thousand MIs on hand now, but are backlogged in getting them ready for sales. Right now they are trying to fill the back log from the last Field Grade offers.
One just has to be patent. Keep an eye on their website (sales), When they get caught up they will make another offer, And like before they'll be flooded with orders. Then they'll shut down again until they get caught up.
They have M1s now, without the PI rifles, so I wouldn't wait ,soon as they list them, jump on the band wagon. I have two, and just bought a third for my son. Shortly after I got my order in, they stopped taking orders, but the orders were on hand were filled.
The one I just got was a Field Grade but it was in excellent shape, and shot well.
But again, keep track of their web site, more will be offered before they are close to be ready to sell the PI returns/
Aren't we more likely to get those 1911s? Last I heard, we're still waiting on them to appoint a Secretary of the Army who can sign off on all of these. Then it'll take another year for the CMP to get them, grade/inspect them, and finally offer them for sale.
Stand by heavy rumor follows......
Supposedly, they have 10K 1911s now that they are grading and inspecting as a test run.
The little bit that has leaked out is that they range from standard WWII mix masters to some that are newer in civilian attire. There was supposed to be one that was a rare Russian lend lease or some such.
Nothing will be certain until they list them but Im betting there are going to be some that go to auction and they will bring some serious cash.
Supposedly, they have 10K 1911s now that they are grading and inspecting as a test run.
The little bit that has leaked out is that they range from standard WWII mix masters to some that are newer in civilian attire. There was supposed to be one that was a rare Russian lend lease or some such.
Nothing will be certain until they list them but Im betting there are going to be some that go to auction and they will bring some serious cash.
Hey Jeff.
Thing is if they don't sign the authorization to sell them to us they go into Captain Crunch. The Army is tired of spending the money to count them, and hearing stories of how that cluster goes, that has to suck. as well in this day of cost cutting it has to look attractive to get rid of them one way (hopefully to us) or the other (crunch, crunch, crunch).
Thing is if they don't sign the authorization to sell them to us they go into Captain Crunch. The Army is tired of spending the money to count them, and hearing stories of how that cluster goes, that has to suck. as well in this day of cost cutting it has to look attractive to get rid of them one way (hopefully to us) or the other (crunch, crunch, crunch).
Last week the CMP posted on their Facebook page that the pending Defense Authorization Act is moving along and it contains the provision to have the Army transfer its pile of M1911's to the CMP for sale to qualified buyers.
Nothing regards any new M1 inventory but they usually don't go to much fanfare when they receive inventory.
Usually one of the volunteer graders that also posts on the CMP Forum will mention something about a shipment of guns coming in from somewhere and than give a little review of how that country maintained OUR guns. The last big batch was a year or so ago from Turkey and it was noteworthy that the guns were beat but they did have a number of IHC Garands that are of the rarer manufacturer.
Fingers crossed and realizing we have any hope in this at all due to the results of the November election.
Nothing regards any new M1 inventory but they usually don't go to much fanfare when they receive inventory.
Usually one of the volunteer graders that also posts on the CMP Forum will mention something about a shipment of guns coming in from somewhere and than give a little review of how that country maintained OUR guns. The last big batch was a year or so ago from Turkey and it was noteworthy that the guns were beat but they did have a number of IHC Garands that are of the rarer manufacturer.
Fingers crossed and realizing we have any hope in this at all due to the results of the November election.
I understand that the condition, for the majority of these rifles, are poor. They have been sitting out in warehouses (if you can call them that) for a long time, many open to the humidity/rain. Most of the rifles will have to be broken down, inspected and refinished.
Southeast Asia is a tough climate for metal objects.
I walked around the hills of the PI back in the mid 80s. I felt like I was on a set of some VN war movie, especially when the PI Marines or Army passed on patrol.
Those guys use their gear hard and I don't think there is a lot of second level maintenance. The guns get what the guy carrying it gives for care. Their ARs looked rough, all triangle handguards with skinny barrels back than, very little anodizing on any part of the upper/lower.
With that in mind yes the M1 Garands might be a tad in need of care.
Still in every batch there seems to be some that were used for ceremonial purpose or for a marksmanship team or just never made it out of supply and still maintain their bore protector rod and VCI powder foil protecting various parts.
No matter what condition these fine Americans need to be repatriated.
I walked around the hills of the PI back in the mid 80s. I felt like I was on a set of some VN war movie, especially when the PI Marines or Army passed on patrol.
Those guys use their gear hard and I don't think there is a lot of second level maintenance. The guns get what the guy carrying it gives for care. Their ARs looked rough, all triangle handguards with skinny barrels back than, very little anodizing on any part of the upper/lower.
With that in mind yes the M1 Garands might be a tad in need of care.
Still in every batch there seems to be some that were used for ceremonial purpose or for a marksmanship team or just never made it out of supply and still maintain their bore protector rod and VCI powder foil protecting various parts.
No matter what condition these fine Americans need to be repatriated.
The ones I'd seen come back from Korea in the late '80's we're as pmc described. The parts had a definitely looser feel than the ones I had handled up to that point.
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