Amateur Missionary Plays Cowboys and Indians

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I think the media is purposely trying to make the victim look like just your average fool, but read enough and you'll see things are a bit different.

"A police source told Reuters that Chau is a preacher who had visited the area in the past and had a strong desire to meet the tribe. The source also claimed Chau expressed interest in preaching to them."

Of course the Politically Correct line of thinking is that they are fine with Christian Missionaries being killed because how dare they try to bring salvation and civilization to the savages.

Because of course according to the SJW type it's better for people to live as brutal unevolved savages enjoying their horrible lives of suffering and endless violence & fearful superstitions.

For better or worse, Brave Christian missionaries over the centuries who faced death on a daily basis were responsible for dragging many people out of the stone ages and improving their lives, at great cost and sacrifice to themselves.

That missionary died trying his best to help the savages and while this evil world full of hateful and stupid idiots will laugh at him, most likely he is enjoying his commendation for trying his best.

Modern idiots with everything taken for granted in their little safe cocoons have these stupid romantic notions of how wonderful life is for the "carefree savages" who are "living with nature" and are "unspoiled by civilization". If you want a real idea of what that's like go watch some of the more obscure documentaries by those who actually go live with some of the (not kill all the outsiders) tribes still living in the jungles.

Here is what your "Romantic Savage" lifestyle has to offer:
Spend your whole day driven by the kind of hunger most westerners have never felt.
Enjoy constant illness, parasites, insects & rapid aging
Each night try to make it though till the dawn as you are constantly under attack from insects and the threat of predators or others
You enjoy going to sleep to the sounds of children crying in hunger especially when there is nothing to do but hope they fall asleep from exhaustion.
Enjoy a constant kill or be killed lifestyle where everybody and everything is out to get you.
Oh yes and women have such great rights... where they are property even in places where supposedly women hold rule. Rape is an unknown word since you have no say in it. And you are back to dying in childbirth as a real possibility.
But you have your local witch doctor to help you out, give them your meager food supply and they will ask the local demons to go easier on you.

If idiots want to go back to that lifestyle so be it, but you'll notice most of the modern idiots that try it, still like to show up from time to time for this modern medicine thing and sometimes extra tools, weapons or food.

For those who have never known civilization, it's a great free gift given to them if they want it. You don't see too many wanting to go back after they got a good dose of civilization in them. Even the guys in Africa who like to live kind of old school still enjoy a bit of the benefits of civilization and are happy to make use of modern transportation, better weapons, food and medicine from time to time.
 
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Wow. I mean, like, just wow. This "infidel" has to wonder if it would be okay to try and gently steer the primitive towards modernization without attempting to turn things into a tent meeting. Or is this particular flavor like a Ritz cracker?

 
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I agree with all that W54 says above, but part of me still has to wonder if they do not have a right to live the way they want to live on their Island. I have to respect that they are willing to defend their way of life. I certainly will not be going their to try to improve their lives. Missionaries including at least one board member here and two cousins of mine have been going to Haiti forever and have they really helped the average Haitian to have a life better than these Islanders?
 
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diverdon said:
Missionaries including at least one board member here and two cousins of mine have been going to Haiti forever and have they really helped the average Haitian to have a life better than these Islanders?
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I would say yes, specifically because they actually have life. Without modern civilization, starvation and infant mortality would have made sure that probably less than 5% of the population that exists in Haiti would be alive.

As bad as things may be there in Haiti, they are still way ahead of being back to unevolved jungle dwellers. You could probably fix Haiti in a generation with a powerful enough and brutal enough dictator bringing everyone into order (but then the USA would probably invade, kick them out and make sure it goes back to a mess).

Haiti was not always the mess it is today. That is a bit more of a modern thing. Much like the sand box. Go back about 80 years and a lot of the crazy sandbox places we think of today were vastly different and more civilized.
 
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Veer_G said:
Wow. I mean, like, just wow. This "infidel" has to wonder if it would be okay to try and gently steer the primitive towards modernization without attempting to turn things into a tent meeting.
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You are welcome to do so, nobody is stopping you.

Actually the Communists do that in any country they take over like China and places in Asia. Like it or not the natives will come into line with the worship of the state as the ultimate being.

But let's be honest about the "infidel" label, you often act a bit touchy about feeling that everybody persecutes your religion, which is almost never the case from everything I have experienced in my life.
Your religion wouldn't probably accept me as a full equal member even if I wanted to be.
I'm also certain that it would be pointless to try to convert you to change your beliefs for another.
I have no problem with that, it's great to have multiple religions around, it keeps things interesting.
Each religion should think they are right & the others are wrong, otherwise why not join the others? I'm good with that.
There are plenty of adherents to your religion right around my neighborhood and there is never any issues with them and anyone else I ever see or know of, everybody knows who they are because of their dress code.
If I go to my local grocery store I'm quite likely to be exchanging pleasantries with someone of your faith, some male muslim with his women in traditional attire, some fully robed eastern orthodox priest, and any number from the various local churches, temples, lodges, synagogues etc.

I'm fully aware that several religions regard me as inferior or "infidel" or "heathen" and that doesn't bother me in the least, I'm happy to share a cup of tea with someone who thinks I'm an infidel, it's always interesting to hear them explain why I'm in the wrong. I'll even enjoy chatting with some of the Neo Pagan/Neo National Socialists that think the whole Christian religion is a Jew plot to destroy the world, doesn't bother me in the least. I've had my share of fun.

It gets a bit bad if one specific religious dogma runs everything.
The many varied religious beliefs over the course of history played a great role in expanding human civilizations across the planet.
People from more advanced cultures fleeing places or exploring new places often brought their own religions and civilizations to the less evolved.

The issue why "civilizing" the "savages" is more often than not done by someone out of a religious sense of duty is that it is for the most part a totally unrewarding, profitless and exceptionally dangerous occupation that is done mostly out of altruistic moral based virtues. Where one believes they are obligated by their deity to try to bring enlightenment to their fellow creations.

Quite a number of various religious creeds over history did the same thing, both east and west.

If you are a member of a religion that believes in bringing others to the true faith and are good at it, you'll probably find yourself meeting up with fellow missionaries of a bunch of different religions and creeds over time & more often than not, having a great time comparing notes, troubles, ideas on keeping in good graces of the local authorities, as well as taking a turn at trying out your conversion arguments on each other for fun (after all you have to be able to say you tried). I had plenty of fun listening to our Muslim counterparts patiently try to convert me to the truth of The Prophet, as well as other sects trying to explain how they were better. I enjoyed visiting the various buildings and places of worship run by other religions as guests of missionaries of other faiths and we usually all had a good time. Each knowing that we were the ones who knew the true religion and the others were poor lost ones needing to be brought to the true knowledge. I can't say I ever knew anyone of the various missionaries that was ever converted by a missionary from another faith, but it was always great fun and usually in good sportsmanship. (You try to convert me, then I get a chance to try to convert you). Usually you'll find most of the non crazy ones (which anybody really successful is going to not be crazy, as ideas are the most powerful only when you can rationally convince someone else to accept them as their own) all have much common ground and can almost always find some "heathen" that you both agree are more wrong than both of you HA!
 
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Pbgt said:
Why don't some of these 'do gooders' help people in their own country?
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I have been feeding the homeless in DC for over 25 years. Been feeding on the streets, steam grates as well as the large shelter at 2nd & D by the Capital.
I do soup kitchen 5-8 times a year at a local church.
I have fed hundreds of them out of my own pocket. Loved every minute of it!
 
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So where was Chief Batshit Crazy at during all this? You know she had a hand in it. Or a fist. :ROFLMAO:


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W54/XM-388 said:
You are welcome to do so, nobody is stopping you.

Actually the Communists do that in any country they take over like China and places in Asia. Like it or not the natives will come into line with the worship of the state as the ultimate being.

But let's be honest about the "infidel" label, you often act a bit touchy about feeling that everybody persecutes your religion, which is almost never the case from everything I have experienced in my life.
Your religion wouldn't probably accept me as a full equal member even if I wanted to be.
I'm also certain that it would be pointless to try to convert you to change your beliefs for another.
I have no problem with that, it's great to have multiple religions around, it keeps things interesting.
Each religion should think they are right & the others are wrong, otherwise why not join the others? I'm good with that.
There are plenty of adherents to your religion right around my neighborhood and there is never any issues with them and anyone else I ever see or know of, everybody knows who they are because of their dress code.
If I go to my local grocery store I'm quite likely to be exchanging pleasantries with someone of your faith, some male muslim with his women in traditional attire, some fully robed eastern orthodox priest, and any number from the various local churches, temples, lodges, synagogues etc.

I'm fully aware that several religions regard me as inferior or "infidel" or "heathen" and that doesn't bother me in the least, I'm happy to share a cup of tea with someone who thinks I'm an infidel, it's always interesting to hear them explain why I'm in the wrong. I'll even enjoy chatting with some of the Neo Pagan/Neo National Socialists that think the whole Christian religion is a Jew plot to destroy the world, doesn't bother me in the least. I've had my share of fun.

It gets a bit bad if one specific religious dogma runs everything.
The many varied religious beliefs over the course of history played a great role in expanding human civilizations across the planet.
People from more advanced cultures fleeing places or exploring new places often brought their own religions and civilizations to the less evolved.

The issue why "civilizing" the "savages" is more often than not done by someone out of a religious sense of duty is that it is for the most part a totally unrewarding, profitless and exceptionally dangerous occupation that is done mostly out of altruistic moral based virtues. Where one believes they are obligated by their deity to try to bring enlightenment to their fellow creations.

Quite a number of various religious creeds over history did the same thing, both east and west.

If you are a member of a religion that believes in bringing others to the true faith and are good at it, you'll probably find yourself meeting up with fellow missionaries of a bunch of different religions and creeds over time & more often than not, having a great time comparing notes, troubles, ideas on keeping in good graces of the local authorities, as well as taking a turn at trying out your conversion arguments on each other for fun (after all you have to be able to say you tried). I had plenty of fun listening to our Muslim counterparts patiently try to convert me to the truth of The Prophet, as well as other sects trying to explain how they were better. I enjoyed visiting the various buildings and places of worship run by other religions as guests of missionaries of other faiths and we usually all had a good time. Each knowing that we were the ones who knew the true religion and the others were poor lost ones needing to be brought to the true knowledge. I can't say I ever knew anyone of the various missionaries that was ever converted by a missionary from another faith, but it was always great fun and usually in good sportsmanship. (You try to convert me, then I get a chance to try to convert you). Usually you'll find most of the non crazy ones (which anybody really successful is going to not be crazy, as ideas are the most powerful only when you can rationally convince someone else to accept them as their own) all have much common ground and can almost always find some "heathen" that you both agree are more wrong than both of you HA!
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How about respecting what the Creator has done by His will and leaving well enough alone for others? If you want to compete, join a bowling league.
 
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Veer_G said:
How about respecting what the Creator has done by His will and leaving well enough alone for others? If you want to compete, join a bowling league.
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That is the view point of some and they are welcome to it & I respect their choice for them to follow it.
If that is the path you choose to follow, I have no problem with it.

However I and many other religions, or for that matter many non religious Atheist or Communists groups, don't subscribe to the more fatalistic ideas and choose the alternate path that one's purpose should be to strive to improve oneself and as many others as they can, to bring those unknowing or wrongly knowing to the better knowledge.
(Hopefully willingly and without coercion as the whole coercion thing is where it starts to go off the rails).

I've had plenty of contact around the world with other religious emissaries from groups that are often considered in conflict in spots around the world, and on that we generally all tend to agree. Even the hardline Communists I knew had the same idea, that they owe it to others to bring them the better knowledge. (Just the little matter of which specific one is more correct).

Much as some people would like all humans to go back to living as primitive hunter gatherers in small numbers while some like myself would rather see humanity progress and spread across the galaxy in infinite variety and culture till earth once again has become a nature preserve because humans have gotten so advanced and spread out that earth is now a park.

It's a choice.

But as far as competing, there is nothing like competing in the realm of trying to change the will and beliefs of humans, it's the game that has been going on since the beginning of humanity and goes on all around you each and every day. Might as well jump in and play unless you prefer to be a spectator.
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
That is the view point of some and they are welcome to it & I respect their choice for them to follow it.
If that is the path you choose to follow, I have no problem with it.

However I and many other religions, or for that matter many non religious Atheist or Communists groups, don't subscribe to the more fatalistic ideas and choose the alternate path that one's purpose should be to strive to improve oneself and as many others as they can, to bring those unknowing or wrongly knowing to the better knowledge.
(Hopefully willingly and without coercion as the whole coercion thing is where it starts to go off the rails).

I've had plenty of contact around the world with other religious emissaries from groups that are often considered in conflict in spots around the world, and on that we generally all tend to agree. Even the hardline Communists I knew had the same idea, that they owe it to others to bring them the better knowledge. (Just the little matter of which specific one is more correct).

Much as some people would like all humans to go back to living as primitive hunter gatherers in small numbers while some like myself would rather see humanity progress and spread across the galaxy in infinite variety and culture till earth once again has become a nature preserve because humans have gotten so advanced and spread out that earth is now a park.

It's a choice.

But as far as competing, there is nothing like competing in the realm of trying to change the will and beliefs of humans, it's the game that has been going on since the beginning of humanity and goes on all around you each and every day. Might as well jump in and play unless you prefer to be a spectator.
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That's about the most obscene screed that I think I've ever read.
 
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Veer_G said:
That's about the most obscene screed that I think I've ever read.
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You are most welcome to your beliefs and I'm perfectly good with that.
I'd never try to change your opinions or beliefs against your will, like all humans, you should believe as you wish and enjoy it in peace.

At the same time I'll feel free to try my best to present ideas I think are better or belief systems that I think work better to anyone who wishes to willingly listen. If one doesn't want to listen, then that's their decision, no need to press it. If one decides to listen but is not convinced that my ideas, beliefs or opinions are better, that is their own free will & I'm good with that, no need to press it. I'd give them the exact same chance roles being reversed.

I like to listen to others trying to convince me of their ideas being better as if their ideas are truly better in my opinion, I might change to them, otherwise it will provide me experience and understanding to better relate to holders of other ideas so we can more easily live together, or possibly learn how to present my ideas to them more convincingly or for that matter challenge my own assumptions and see if they really stand up under rugged debate.
 
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Waorani said:
Hey, don't be dissin on S&H green stamps! Was just talking a couple of days ago about Christmas when I was maybe 10-11, my dad was in the Ft Benning stockade, and we were broke. All my sister and I got for X-mas was a couple small items my mom let us pick out of the S&H green stamp catalog. :(
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My grandmother was the queen of S&H Green Stamps. That, and Sears, Roebuck and Montgomery Wards mail-order. If it wasn't in the catalogs, you didn't need it. That's the way it was ten miles outside of a one-horse town.
 
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PPB said:
I have been feeding the homeless in DC for over 25 years. Been feeding on the streets, steam grates as well as the large shelter at 2nd & D by the Capital.
I do soup kitchen 5-8 times a year at a local church.
I have fed hundreds of them out of my own pocket. Loved every minute of it!
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And you will be able to keep doing it so long as you stay off small islands off the coast of India.
 
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I read this early in the AM and could not stop chuckling all day... Boowah ha aha hah aha aha hha haa....

For the next adventurer who wants an adrenaline rush... I suggest Iceland. Not a place loaded with headhunters and recurve bows.



This retard deserves to be chopped up...

And the Indian Gummint should drop a case of Moonpies onto the island by way of thanks!

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
I read this early in the AM and could not stop chuckling all day... Boowah ha aha hah aha aha hha haa....
For the next adventurer who wants an adrenaline rush... I suggest Iceland. Not a place loaded with headhunters and recurve bows.
This retard deserves to be chopped up...
And the Indian Gummint should drop a case of Moonpies onto the island by way of thanks!
Cheers,
Sirhr
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Or for a little bit of fun with headhunters on an island perhaps show them what the less meek and mild followers of a deity can do when they show up with amphibious vehicles, mobile barricades, mini guns, ARs, scoped rifles, flame throwers, a grenade machine gun, helicopter mounted guns and maybe a bulldozer just for fun and cut loose with everything all at once with no warning....

I mean if it's fun and games and all perfectly laughable to you for savage possibly cannibal head hunters to kill somebody who may have been a bit misguided about the chances of making their acquaintance, you won't have any problem if somebody just wanted to show them a little "demonstration" of how civilization does war now would you. Equally laughable right a nice wall of lead cutting down everything?

Or even just one guy at night with the right body armour, thermal imaging and a silenced AR-10, some grenades a flame thrower and lots ammo? Still laughing at that idea?

Like most of the Antifa guys, those savages are only alive because nobody has decided to put them in their place & they haven't killed anyone with friends or family that are correctly motivated and believe in vengeance as a sacred rite.
 
#41
W54 ... these folks were minding their own business on that hovel of an island... doing their hovel shit for10000 years. The place is protected... so that those headhunting types can keep doing their hovel shit.

In comes a retard who illegally paid fishermen to drop him off so he can go all Jesús on them... and he gets chopped up. Crocodile tears. He deserved it.

I’ll happily go in there with a Mini gun and thermals... pointed outward at the coastline towards the next little millennial buttpirate who wants to invade.

Their island. Their rules. I,too, love their immigration policy. If I had an island... I’d chop that little tard up and eat his liver with fava beans and a nice cianti.

That little shit deserved the axe.

Sirhr
 
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About your plan to go there and protect them......
Are you assuming they will just know you are there to be their friend and won't do their normal habit of killing everyone they see?

I'm not a big fan of savage killers modern or "primitive".

Bet you however I could find a way to wipe them out without having to set foot on the island if I was sufficiently motivated and financed as could pretty much just about anybody who can think.

So they get away with murdering any strangers simply because people are tolerating them for some SJW reason and not deciding to "explain" to them that such behavior is not allowed and will have consequences.
 
#43
Their island... their rules.

USA is our country. Our rules.

Why should our rules apply to them.. or vice versa.

Afghanis want to chop each other’s heads off... I don’t care. As long As they don’t fly planes into our buildings. The French want to not shower and smell like dog turds... their business. The Canadians want to be polite and tolerate Justin Bieber... their choice.

Headhunters want to live in their island.... I have no business telling them otherwise.

Headhunters want to come here and preach headhunter shit... kill them all, I say. But on their island... their rules .

And I have no need to go there unless they ask. And even then... they better ask nice and pay my per diem.

Sirhr
 
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