Americans less important than combloc Ukes per your “leaders”

[TurboTrout]

Human trafficking combloc ukraine gets protected by our air supremacy F22 raptors

So when a nuclear capable bomber comes towards the US, it’s a training squadrons with inferior aircraft that protects you, because our A team is protecting politician’s buddies in ukraine

Per wiki

“…the U.S. Air Force identified a requirement for an Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF) to replace the F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon”

“Mission
The 18th Aggressor Squadron prepares combat Air Force, joint and allied aircrews through challenging, realistic threat replication, training, test support, academics and feedback.”

 

[Huskydriver]

Cough cough....bullshit cough

 

[TurboTrout]

Cough cough....bullshit cough

Cough cough…facts

 

[Huskydriver]

Cough cough…facts

Yea....right I'm sure your briefed

 

[TurboTrout]

Yea....right I'm sure your briefed

On what?

So the aggressor squadron wasn’t a training squadron?

The F22 wasn’t really built to replace the F16?


Ahh yes, it was all a psy opp, the F16 was actually brought back from 200yrs in the future, so the F22 was invented to hide the fact that the F16 is actually newer and better, next they made a “training group” of next level pilots also from the future to fly these 16s, when a major threat comes to the US we make sure the F22s are away so the from the future F16s and their time traveling pilots can save mainstreet

Or politicians actually just don’t really care about you…


But I’m sure you’re right, the best defense the US has is older training F16s compared to the F22s

 

[Huskydriver]

I'm just saying you don't know jack shit where our f22s are and neither does that group lol.......


On that note sure I guarantee politicians don't care about our country

 

[TurboTrout]

I'm just saying you don't know jack shit where our f22s are and neither does that group lol.......


On that note sure I guarantee politicians don't care about our country

So when a Russian strategic bomber headed towards the US why do we have training f16s intercepting it vs our air supremacy f22s?

 

[Huskydriver]

So when a Russian strategic bomber headed towards the US why do we have training f16s intercepting it vs our air supremacy f22s?

Did you fly block 50+ f16cs upgraded with sabr?

 

[TurboTrout]

Did you fly block 50+ f16cs upgraded with sabr?

Nope, but I am able to read

So the 16cs is better than a f22 eh?

 

[OREGUN]

“F-16 Fighting Falcon”

arrrhhrhgsgehhsh


The sound of Air Force dudes having a stroke while trying to scream “it’s the Viper!”


But seriously, repeat after me: “nothing I read on the internet is true”.

And also, pretty sure any “F-**“ built since the start of the jet age can handle the old Tu-95. Personally, the F-22 units are probably better used where they might see an SU-35.

 

[Huskydriver]

Nope, but I am able to read

So the 16cs is better than a f22 eh?

Uh no but keep reading arm chair air wing commander turbo I'm sure all the public sources you got are solid including where all our f22s are, and why.... guess we will have to take you and your unofficial sources as facts captain.

The shit that comes out of your mouth sometimes is just as bad as the lefts misinformation....

 

[W54/XM-388]

It's all a little song and dance that's been going on for a very long time.
We send planes around Russia, Russia sends a contingent to say, yes we see you, now you can go home.
The Russians send planes over and we sent a contingent to say, yes we see you, now you can go home.

Of course, in the old days the Soviet pilots had more style, like holding up the latest edition of playboy to the fighter canopy to see if the opposition had the same one or newer... (or so the stories go).

It all makes for great clickbait headlines, but it's not actually anything new, that hasn't been going on for like 60 years or something like that.

 

[sharac]

Now the real challenge would be exchanging Playbabushka with Playboy while maneuvering dangerously and in unprofessional manner as it goes in official reports for MSM...

 

[Son of Dorn]

arrrhhrhgsgehhsh


The sound of Air Force dudes having a stroke while trying to scream “it’s the Viper!”


But seriously, repeat after me: “nothing I read on the internet is true”.

And also, pretty sure any “F-**“ built since the start of the jet age can handle the old Tu-95. Personally, the F-22 units are probably better used where they might see an SU-35.

As a fan of the OG Battlestar Galactica, "Viper" is always gonna sound better to me than "Fighting Falcon", lol.

Also I would imagine that since they intercepted said Tupolev from Eielson and not Elmendorf, and they don't appear to HAVE any F22s at Eielson, they obviously figured a couple F16s and a couple supporting aircraft (a tanker plus one, I think it said) were sufficient. Because there are apparently two squadrons of F35s at Eielson, unless they're not present at the moment and perhaps they aren't, and if they didn't get called out, they probably didn't need to be.

That's just my opinion, though. I'm not privy to the intricacies of USAF's workings. Just seems like the practical assessment from what I've read, taking it as being accurate.

 

[EddieNFL]

As a fan of the OG Battlestar Galactica, "Viper" is always gonna sound better to me than "Fighting Falcon", lol.

How 'bout Wild Weasel?

 

[The D]

How 'bout Wild Weasel?

Or El Diablo

 

[Son of Dorn]

How 'bout Wild Weasel?

Also better! But that's an aircraft role/configuration. It's still an F4 Phantom or a F105 Thunderchief back in the Vietnam War, or an F16 FF/Viper now. I mean specifically for aircraft line names.

 

[EddieNFL]

Also better! But that's an aircraft role/configuration. It's still an F4 Phantom or a F105 Thunderchief back in the Vietnam War, or an F16 FF/Viper now. I mean specifically for aircraft line names.

In that case, Lawn Dart.

 

[OREGUN]

I could be wrong on this. But I think the last time an f-16 shot another aircraft out of the sky was something like 20 years ago so calling it “fighting”-anything is probably a bit misleading.

 

[The D]

In that case, Lawn Dart.

I’m not getting in any plane named Lawn Dart. If anyone needs an explanation, it can be provided…

 

[EddieNFL]

I’m not getting in any plane named Lawn Dart. If anyone needs an explanation, it can be provided…

MH60 Pavehawk. Also known as Salad Shooter or Mountain Magnet depending on terrain.

 

[TurboTrout]

Uh no but keep reading arm chair air wing commander turbo I'm sure all the public sources you got are solid including where all our f22s are, and why.... guess we will have to take you and your unofficial sources as facts captain.

The shit that comes out of your mouth sometimes is just as bad as the lefts misinformation....

So it was a psy op?


So the 16 is better then the 22?

 

[Ichi]

arrrhhrhgsgehhsh


The sound of Air Force dudes having a stroke while trying to scream “it’s the Viper!”


But seriously, repeat after me: “nothing I read on the internet is true”.

And also, pretty sure any “F-**“ built since the start of the jet age can handle the old Tu-95. Personally, the F-22 units are probably better used where they might see an SU-35.

Grew up calling the F-16 a Falcon. Only recently did I learn that Viper is preferred due to the shape of the plane and its air intake.

While searching for naming references, I stumbled onto the Digital Combat Simulator (DCS) videos on YouTube. It's very interesting computer flight simulator that I would probably enjoy if I had the time and skills needed to learn how to fly and fight in one of these jets.

Growling Sidewinder has a lot of good fights on YouTube. Many are guns only fights which highlight the manuverability of the aircraft. Of course they are only as good as the flight models in the sim and the pilot.

 

[Huskydriver]

So it was a psy op?


So the 16 is better then the 22?

So you think only f22s can intercept and for the last few years only f22s have performed that role?

You think the only possible explanation that f16s were used instead of 22s is some nefarious plot too ensure American domestic strategic weakness?

You think your sources are facts?

Lol I'm out

 

[Son of Dorn]

In that case, Lawn Dart.

If we're talking the F104, Starfighter is a good name but a just a liiittle bit overconfident. Lawn Dart is adequate. Germans called it "Erdnagel", or "Tent Peg".

 

[EddieNFL]

If we're talking the F104, Starfighter is a good name but a just a liiittle bit overconfident. Lawn Dart is adequate. Germans called it "Erdnagel", or "Tent Peg".

Lawn Dart was the common moniker for the F16 when I was active. F104 was a couple years before my time.

 

[Son of Dorn]

Lawn Dart was the common moniker for the F16 when I was active. F104 was a couple years before my time.

I hadn't heard Lawn Dart for the F16 before, but there's a lot of slang and nicknames for stuff I'll never know, being just a civilian. I can see the resemblance, but I hope it didn't imply the same thing as the F104's nickname did lol.

 

[EddieNFL]

I hadn't heard Lawn Dart for the F16 before, but there's a lot of slang and nicknames for stuff I'll never know, being just a civilian. I can see the resemblance, but I hope it didn't imply the same thing as the F104's nickname did lol.

Not really. The only one I have first hand knowledge of didn't really crash. Caught fire out just after wheels up. Pilot put it back down, A/C spun 180 before he ejected and he drifted into the wreckage. Happened the morning of my retirement ceremony.

 

[TurboTrout]

So you think only f22s can intercept and for the last few years only f22s have performed that role?

You think the only possible explanation that f16s were used instead of 22s is some nefarious plot too ensure American domestic strategic weakness?

You think your sources are facts?

Lol I'm out

No

But it’s a better tool for the job

I don’t think it’s nefarious as much as it’s simply our gov is incompetent and corrupt

 

[hic28]

No

But it’s a better tool for the job

I don’t think it’s nefarious as much as it’s simply our gov is incompetent and corrupt

So it’s safe to assume you also don’t know the cost per hour to operate a 16 vs a 22?

 

[TurboTrout]

So it’s safe to assume you also don’t know the cost per hour to operate a 16 vs a 22?

For what we all overpay in taxes, I don’t care

I expect to be defended by the best equipment my money paid for many times over

I care more about protecting the beer in my fridge than the eu and old combloc

 

[hic28]

We have roughly 170-180 airworthy f22s at any given time, compared to ~400 f15s and ~900 f16s. im glad you think they are sending 22s up any time something gets close to our airspace.

 

[TurboTrout]

We have roughly 170-180 airworthy f22s at any given time, compared to ~400 f15s and ~900 f16s. im glad you think they are sending 22s up any time something gets close to our airspace.

When it’s a fucking bomber from a nuclear armed nation, yeah I kinda do

If it’s a old LRJ from Mexico with the xpdr off, or some Canadian wondering across the line in a 172, sure send the f16s or whatever

I think I should be able to expect more based upon what this government demands of me


I work my ass off and the government takes more of my money than I do, step it up or refund my taxes

 

[GreenGO Juan]

F-22’s are invisible. They were there you just can’t see em.

 

[acudaowner]

funny thing is I don't have a political leader more of a spiritual leader and after I pass away my sins will be judged by him not a commie or a crook ..

 

[hic28]

When it’s a fucking bomber from a nuclear armed nation, yeah I kinda do

If it’s a old LRJ from Mexico with the xpdr off, or some Canadian wondering across the line in a 172, sure send the f16s or whatever

I think I should be able to expect more based upon what this government demands of me


I work my ass off and the government takes more of my money than I do, step it up or refund my taxes

Your commitment to ignorance is commendable.

 

[TurboTrout]

F-22’s are invisible. They were there you just can’t see em.

“Sir you want me to install that scope, sure! But I left my torx bits at home, however I got a Allen key in a box around here that I think I could jam in there and would work good nough!”


How about use the best tool for the job

 

[TurboTrout]

Your commitment to ignorance is commendable.

Oh here we go with the chimp flinging shit routine

Please tell me how I’m “ignorant”

It’s funny those who honestly are fucking stupid often are the ones calling others “ignorant”

So again, tell me how the old 16 is better for this job than the 22 which was built to replace it …. I asked but all the mental powerhouses come up with dick

 

[GreenGO Juan]

“Sir you want me to install that scope, sure! But I left my torx bits at home, however I got a Allen key in a box around here that I think I could jam in there and would work good nough!”


How about use the best tool for the job

There’s no reason to waste an F 22 airframe on a routine Bear interception.

Actually it’s, thef-16, is the perfect tool for the job.

 

[ken226]

Your commitment to ignorance is commendable.

Better watch it buddy!!

You arguing with the guy that has the world's third most dangerous job. Right behind pit bull groomers and jet pack operators!

 

[hic28]

Oh here we go with the chimp flinging shit routine

Please tell me how I’m “ignorant”

It’s funny those who honestly are fucking stupid often are the ones calling others “ignorant”

So again, tell me how the old 16 is better for this job than the 22 which was built to replace it …. I asked but all the mental powerhouses come up with dick

Do your own research. You claim to know everything about different airframes but what you’ve posted shows your ignorance.

I tried to be civil and ask a few thought provoking questions to help lead you down the path that would answer your questions, however, it seems you just want to puff your chest out and shit on everything claiming you pay a lot in taxes yet know jack shit about how the usaf works.

 

[thejeep]

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Did invisible man think he could fly straight through the earth?

 

[TurboTrout]

There’s no reason to waste an F 22 airframe on a routine Bear interception.

Actually it’s, thef-16, is the perfect tool for the job.

What more important thing did they have to do that day?

 

[TurboTrout]

Do your own research. You claim to know everything about different airframes but what you’ve posted shows your ignorance.

I tried to be civil and ask a few thought provoking questions to help lead you down the path that would answer your questions, however, it seems you just want to puff your chest out and shit on everything claiming you pay a lot in taxes yet know jack shit about how the usaf works.

BS

You insult me, say Im “ignorant” lol

But can’t back your shit up

How is the 16 a better tool compared to the superior 22?

And what did I post that was incorrect?

 

[GreenGO Juan]

What more important thing did they have to do that day?

Probably got drunk and had an orgy

 

[W54/XM-388]

This is after all a very old design propeller driven bomber, the F-16 is way more than enough to go give it a little escort as it flies along in international airspace.

In the horses for courses game, the F16 is a great option for a little cruise around for a couple hours to keep the Russians company and make them feel like somebody still cares about their bombers.

 

[nn8734]

Oh here we go with the chimp flinging shit routine

Please tell me how I’m “ignorant”

It’s funny those who honestly are fucking stupid often are the ones calling others “ignorant”

So again, tell me how the old 16 is better for this job than the 22 which was built to replace it …. I asked but all the mental powerhouses come up with dick

Calling you ignorant in this case is painfully easy. You are absolutely clueless.

Do you really think we need an F22 for these intercepts? Have you not seen the Russian Air Force in action lately, lol? Do you not realize the USAF regularly upgrades all platforms (I think Block 52, 62 and now 70 f16s are in production) and using avionics suites more than capable for the task?

If 4-ship J20s were being seen approaching the Alaskan coast w/o nutsacks then perhaps the F22 or F22s teamed with F35s would be more prudent but they not necessary for intercepting 200 million year old Russian rust buckets with RCS signatures the size of battleships that we can see a coming from a light year away and it with the same fucking AMRAMM C or D at our leisure at a fraction of the CpFH of the F22

 

[hic28]

I called you ignorant because you lack knowledge on this subject. Once I get this meat on the bbq I’ll sit down at my computer and point out where you are wrong

 

[W54/XM-388]

BS

You insult me, say Im “ignorant” lol

But can’t back your shit up

How is the 16 a better tool compared to the superior 22?

And what did I post that was incorrect?

Why put the hours on your F22 if you don't need to?
Why give the Russians a nice multi hour inspection of how your F22 performs?
Why divert a critical defense asset for routine border patrol escort duty?

You pull out the F-22 when your enemy is sending out their top of the line fighter jets.

The trusty F-16 workhorse is perfectly able to deal with many different enemy aircraft.

If you want to monitor a trucker convoy heading down the road, do you pull out your F1 racecar?

Realistically that was a boring run for the F-16 pilots, get up there cruise as slow as you can and do a whole bunch of mid-air refueling until the Russians decide it's time to go home for dinner and bid you good day.

The Russians aren't going to try to kick start a secret attack for WWIII with an old propeller bomber that would be knocked out of the sky by near anything remotely modern the moment it crosses our airspace in a hostile manner. The navy can knock those down easily with a missile from a ship if they needed to.

 

[TurboTrout]

Calling you ignorant in this case is painfully easy. You are absolutely clueless.

Do you really think we need an F22 for these intercepts? Have you not seen the Russian Air Force in action lately, lol? Do you not realize the USAF regularly upgrades all platforms (I think Block 52, 62 and now 70 f16s are in production) and using avionics suites more than capable for the task?

If 4-ship J20s were being seen approaching the Alaskan coast w/o nutsacks then perhaps the F22 or F22s teamed with F35s would be more prudent but they not necessary for intercepting 200 million year old Russian rust buckets with RCS signatures the size of battleships that we can see a coming from a light year away and it with the same fucking AMRAMM C or D at our leisure at a fraction of the CpFH of the F22

Oh so I’m ignorant because I don’t want to underestimate a nuclear power, gotcha

Again, what better thing did the 22s have to do that day?