Anyone ever have this happen with a remington 700?

[Deadshot2]

I recently mounted a scope on a new SPS-Tactical and had instant problems. Couldn't get enough elevation zero at 100 yards. Also noticed that the windage adjustment gave me some weird movement of the reticle.

First thought was "POS Scope". I centered the adjustments by rotating the scope in the mounts until I got no movement off aim point of the reticle. I also checked the mechanical center of the adjustments and found them to correlate with the "spin method".

When "bore sighting" while using a big spot on the side of a neighbors house 100 yards away (I hope they didn't look out and see the rifle pointed at them) the reticle was far above what it should have been for a "Zero MOA" rail mount.

Since I had a 20 MOA rail on the shelf I installed it and Bingo! The crosshairs were right on the bore-sight aim point at 100 yards.

Ideas of where the problem might be?

Bad Scope, although it doesn't appear to be malfunctioning. Adjustments yield nice precise movements of the reticle and they return to the same point when adjusted up/down or left/right the same number of MOA.

Bad scope rail (it was a rather inexpensive one from Blackhawk)

Improperly machined receiver??

Other??

Any suggestions or advice are welcome.


BTW, when I mounted my NF on the same setup it seems like I was all the way at one end of the elevation adjustment, again strange as the rail is a "Zero MOA".

 

[Niles Coyote]

Is this a zero stop model?

 

[tylerw02]

I've had the problem on a Savage before. If it works now, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[r1rn04]

most rails have to be bedded. there is a nice video on 8541tactical on how to do this . ods are the rear of your receiver is machined down more than most, putting your scope in a bind when torqued down. I used feeler gages to determine the proper shim , to set the rail correctly. Yes Im a tight wad, I might want to put this or that rail on another rifle so a shim and no bedding was the way I went. the gap on my receiver to rail was .015. turning a 20MOA rail into a 5MOA. shimmed and all is right in the world.

 

[bradthemarine]

I saw this exact problem on a Remington a while back. I'm not saying this is your problem, but you have the same symptoms of the problem I saw. Bottom line, the action screws were torqued way too much causing the barrel to point down and the scope to point up. After going through 2-3 different bases and rings, somebody noticed how much the action was torqued and once the action was properly torqued the everything lined up perfectly.

I hope your problem is this simple, if not, you may want to give Remington a call.

 

[Jerry45]

I just mounted a rail and scope on my new 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD. I found that when I screwed the rail down the front was level but the rear was low and canted to the right. I bedded the rear with JB Weld and it's now square.

 

[insight3b]

I've had a similar problem and after trying just about everything with the rifle mount and scope I finally narrowed the problem down to too long of screws for the scope base. I filed down a thread at a time on the screws(especially the front screws) and the problem was fixed. Are you using the same screws for both bases?

 

[Deadshot2]

I saw this exact problem on a Remington a while back. I'm not saying this is your problem, but you have the same symptoms of the problem I saw. Bottom line, the action screws were torqued way too much causing the barrel to point down and the scope to point up. After going through 2-3 different bases and rings, somebody noticed how much the action was torqued and once the action was properly torqued the everything lined up perfectly.

I hope your problem is this simple, if not, you may want to give Remington a call.

That wasn't an issue with this rifle. The action block was first "fitted" to the action using a product similar to prussian blue. All the high spots were scraped down so the action sat in the block wihout any high spots that would allow an action screw to use them as a fulcrum. The action was then skim bedded and cured with the action under no stress. Now, tightening of the action screws yields no barrel deflection.

I've had a similar problem and after trying just about everything with the rifle mount and scope I finally narrowed the problem down to too long of screws for the scope base. I filed down a thread at a time on the screws(especially the front screws) and the problem was fixed. Are you using the same screws for both bases?

I always take scope screw length into consideration before mounting. I first measure the amount of screw that protrudes from the base before installation and compare this with the hole depth. Especially important for the rear mounts. Can make one wonder why their bolt either gets real stiff or there's now some new marks on it when your remove it

 

[Fishman7]

never happened here