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I've looked at a new Caracal 816a2 piston gun, and it was reportedly designed by the same 1 or 2 guys who were part of the HK 416 design team, who then moved to Sig for the 516, MCX, Spear, etc., and then reportedly they moved to Caracal for the 816a2 piston gun. Unlike the Sig 516, the Caracal has a higher top like a POF piston gun, perhaps for a slightly different piston to action pathway?i’ll jump in on this….
those are nearly identical to the caracal right? i have a caracal 11.5” and love the design, mostly. not over gassed at all. still has the snap of a short stroke piston though, even with cases falling at 3 oclock with 557 ammo on the suppressed setting and an H buffer.
i know its not the same as having a sig but if thats the design you are after, its a good option.
You got a new 516 upper, or new complete 516 rifle, for under $600?!Got one when they were priced pretty aggressively. I paid under $600 OTD. At that price it was a no brainer. Picked up a used Sig suppressor for something like $200 (plus the $200 tax) and slapped a Primary Arms 4x optic on it. Gun has been 100% reliable and is a ton of fun to shoot. With AAC 77 gr ammo I'm hitting 5" steel plates and prairie dog silhouettes at 200 yards with nearly 100% consistency.
So it's reliable, soft shooting, great with suppressors and surprisingly accurate. Not sure how they are currently priced, but I'd say if under $800 they're worth a look.
You still got a great deal on that new 516 Upper!No, not the rifle, just the upper. So a deal, not a steal.
I think some guys were able to get uppers for under $500. Tough to even find them now, and I think they're going for approx. $1,000.
Yep. I'm not a weight weenie- I don't mind the extra metal in a well built and reliable piston gun.Well any piston AR is going to weigh more than a comparable DI and be somewhat front heavy.
I own 3, 2 14.5s and and FDE 16". the FDE is for parts for the 2 14.5s. $499 for the 2 uppers and 1200 for FDE.
Due to sigs lack of support for the platform, I will NEVER buy another sig product. EVER.