Archimedes?

[xdeano]

I dont hear much or see much about the American Rifle Co Archimedes actions. A good friend of mine is negative towards the action. But I didnt get a good reason. So who's actually using this action? How is it and if negative why?

Is the action a true break through or is it a gimmick? Be honest about your thoughts it wont hurt my feelings.

Thanks guys!
Deano

 

[spife7980]

I’ve never heard anything but glowing praise for it. I know I wouldn’t mind having one.

 

[kindabitey]

I don't own one (yet), but did get my hands on one at a class a few weeks ago. Super smooth function. The bolt handle was different since it moves,
but it wouldn't take much to get used to. I'm pretty sure the reason you don't see more top shooters using one, is because Ted doesn't give anything away for sponsorships.
I can certainly see one in my future.

 

[Steel head]

I’ve never heard anything but glowing praise for it. I know I wouldn’t mind having one.

Same.
I got to play with one once, It’s just a nucleus with a novel (and powerful) extraction system.
I absolutely love my nucleus and I’m sure I’d be happy with a Archimedes.
I really wish Ted would make it with a lapua boltface.

 

[BurnOut]

I have one, but the build is still in progress so I can't speak to the action... uh, in action. That said, I have spent a fair amount of time finger banging it, and I see no reason to have a negative perception of it.

 

[xdeano]

Ive done a bunch of searches online and on SH and it just doesnt come up with much. I havent found anything bad about them.

I talked to a few buddies and several of them said to go with a terminus or impact instead. But no real reason to stay away from ARC.

After watching Ted's bolt disassembly video I thought no way in hell. The other actions I have are bayonet style bolts. So I watched the video over. It really isnt a big deal and I dont know many guys taking their bolts apart much anyhow.

Xdeano

 

[diverdon]

Ted has long hair, and he is honest with people on the phone. Some people think engineers should have buzz cuts, others resent being told how stupid their question is. Is it possible your buddy falls into one of those groups?

For me l like that when I called him with a question he answered the question, end of call. Ted's effort to make you his friend is by selling you a action you will love, not by kissing your ass.

 

[RogueTanker]

Love mine. Extraction is straight into your body which helps when you have stuck rounds. You have a lot of mass to pull into rather than "rolling" your rifle over when trying to remove a stuck case.

The lever for extraction is absolutely no joke. I had a string of rounds blowing primers left and right during a match, carbon ring I think. And I was able to finish the stage up. If you have a stuck case, when you extract it, it'll get thrown into the next county over so you will lose some brass.

 

[Steel head]

Ted has long hair, and he is honest with people on the phone. Some people think engineers should have buzz cuts, others resent being told how stupid their question is. Is it possible your buddy falls into one of those groups?

Lol
When I met Ted he had shorter hair than normal.

Lots of people get unfounded biases.
I try not to poo poo or go negative on things I don’t have experience on.
I also try to not get caught up in the hot fad/silver bullet of the month club

 

[diverdon]

Lol
When I met Ted he had shorter hair than normal.

Lots of people get unfounded biases.
I try not to poo poo or go negative on things I don’t have experience on.
I also try to not get caught up in the hot fad/silver bullet of the month club

I'm just saying Ted don't have a slick highly paid salesman to front his products. I like that. Some don't.

 

[Steel head]

I'm just saying Ted don't have a slick highly paid salesman to front his products. I like that. Some don't.

His attitude and the fact his shop is in my old stomping grounds is why I bought one of his actions.
I like the functionality over heavy promotion as well.
I used to live walking distance from where my action was made

 

[spife7980]

Ive done a bunch of searches online and on SH and it just doesnt come up with much. I havent found anything bad about them.

I talked to a few buddies and several of them said to go with a terminus or impact instead. But no real reason to stay away from ARC.

After watching Ted's bolt disassembly video I thought no way in hell. The other actions I have are bayonet style bolts. So I watched the video over. It really isnt a big deal and I dont know many guys taking their bolts apart much anyhow.

Xdeano

I thought the arc actions were all toolless now, at least I know I’ve taken the firing pin out of a nucleus with no tools.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

If it's just a Nucleus with an upgraded extractor, are there any light strike or firing pin issues?

A bunch of guys were having problems and ARC sent out heavier firing pin springs to make up for it, but it seems the problem the whole time was too much lube inside the bolt and on the firing pin spring.

Mine ran when it was clean, but the moment you lubed up the firing pin spring, light strikes abound.

 

[hereinaz]

Same.
I got to play with one once, It’s just a nucleus with a novel (and powerful) extraction system.
I absolutely love my nucleus and I’m sure I’d be happy with a Archimedes.
I really wish Ted would make it with a lapua boltface.

I would buy an Archimedes with a Lapua bolt face right now!

 

[hereinaz]

If it's just a Nucleus with an upgraded extractor, are there any light strike or firing pin issues?

A bunch of guys were having problems and ARC sent out heavier firing pin springs to make up for it, but it seems the problem the whole time was too much lube inside the bolt and on the firing pin spring.

Mine ran when it was clean, but the moment you lubed up the firing pin spring, light strikes abound.

Its the exact same extractor bit.

The Archimedes uses a LEVER for primary extraction. All the other bolt actions use a cam. The lever is amazing. As in the bolt handle is a literal lever. When you turn the bolt handle there is zero 0% cam on the Archimedes. Only cocking.

When you pull the bolt handle back, it pivots and levers the case out. It is crazy more power to pull the case out. No stuck cases.

I ran an OG Nuke and love it. I got an OG Arch. The difference is minimal, in the end I love my gen 1 Nuke and so I traded my Arch for another gen 1 Nuke/cash.

 

[hereinaz]

I thought the arc actions were all toolless now, at least I know I’ve taken the firing pin out of a nucleus with no tools.

Gen 1 Nukes are not tooless, but it is easy enough with a little screw.

He went to tooless bolts in later gens.

The Archimedes with its lever for bolt handle makes for a more complicated bolt assembly.

 

[Delicatessen]

Its the exact same extractor bit.

The Archimedes uses a LEVER for primary extraction. All the other bolt actions use a cam. The lever is amazing. As in the bolt handle is a literal lever. When you turn the bolt handle there is zero 0% cam on the Archimedes. Only cocking.

When you pull the bolt handle back, it pivots and levers the case out. It is crazy more power to pull the case out. No stuck cases.

I ran an OG Nuke and love it. I got an OG Arch. The difference is minimal, in the end I love my gen 1 Nuke and so I traded my Arch for another gen 1 Nuke/cash.

Have you tried the gen 2 nucleus to compare these with? I am also considering buying a nuke or Archimedes for a long action (have an original nucleus short action and love it). I am just not sure post gen 2 how I would like the nucleus.

 

[xdeano]

Ted has long hair, and he is honest with people on the phone. Some people think engineers should have buzz cuts, others resent being told how stupid their question is. Is it possible your buddy falls into one of those groups?

For me l like that when I called him with a question he answered the question, end of call. Ted's effort to make you his friend is by selling you a action you will love, not by kissing your ass.

My buddies fall into a couple of different groups. Some are in that, "ive never messed with one" group. But I'll recommend what ive used. Another has a company that sells actions, he just shook his head. His actions are well made also.

Deano

 

[xdeano]

I thought the arc actions were all toolless now, at least I know I’ve taken the firing pin out of a nucleus with no tools.

They may be different now, but the video on youtube you needed a t25 and an Allen wrench as a pin. A set screw on the rear of the bolt shroud, then a screw that holds everything in place that go through the bolt to the firing pin, bushing and handle.

If this has changed and made simpler like a bayonet style it might be more appealing to some. I dont plan on taking my bolts apart unless I'm in some crazy situation or sitting on my bench.

I have had a stuck brass during a local PRS match on the first stage, 3rd round of the stage. I tried using my mag to tap the handle to cam over and pull back. The damn handle snapped off. So I walked around the field all day bsing with friends. Saved some ammo.

Deano

 

[steve123]

Its the exact same extractor bit.

The Archimedes uses a LEVER for primary extraction. All the other bolt actions use a cam. The lever is amazing. As in the bolt handle is a literal lever. When you turn the bolt handle there is zero 0% cam on the Archimedes. Only cocking.

When you pull the bolt handle back, it pivots and levers the case out. It is crazy more power to pull the case out. No stuck cases.

I ran an OG Nuke and love it. I got an OG Arch. The difference is minimal, in the end I love my gen 1 Nuke and so I traded my Arch for another gen 1 Nuke/cash.

I wonder why Ted didn't apply the cocking on closing in the ARC so when the bolt is - slammed closed at speed it'd take advantage of the momentum??!!

Probably a good reason but I've always wondered why.

 

[hereinaz]

I didn't notice any major difference other than the lever action from Gen 1 to Archimedes that would make me choose One or the other.

I basically love my Nuke, that I didn't need to change.

I think I would go Arch for a long action magnum just because...

 

[Kimber.204]

@xdeano
I love my Archimedes. I'm considering getting another one.

I use mine for NRA HighPower matches in an ARC XYLO chassis - the combination has been fantastic this year.

I've had (or still have) Bighorn TL3/SR3, Origin, Mausingfield, Defiance actions. They all work. I like certain attributes of each.

I've never run a faster bolt action that the Archimedes. Lighter bolt lift than the Mausingfield, lighter bolt close than the Bighorn/Zermatt, smoothest bolt sliding of all (of the limited number of actions I've had in my hands).

It's easier to swap bolt heads on a Bighorn/Zermatt....so I'll probably always keep one of those around, but it will be an Archimedes for the foreseeable future.

Good luck...you really can't make a wrong choice with any of these proven custom actions.
Regards,
Ross

 

[xdeano]

@xdeano
I love my Archimedes. I'm considering getting another one.

I use mine for NRA HighPower matches in an ARC XYLO chassis - the combination has been fantastic this year.

I've had (or still have) Bighorn TL3/SR3, Origin, Mausingfield, Defiance actions. They all work. I like certain attributes of each.

I've never run a faster bolt action that the Archimedes. Lighter bolt lift than the Mausingfield, lighter bolt close than the Bighorn/Zermatt, smoothest bolt sliding of all (of the limited number of actions I've had in my hands).

It's easier to swap bolt heads on a Bighorn/Zermatt....so I'll probably always keep one of those around, but it will be an Archimedes for the foreseeable future.

Good luck...you really can't make a wrong choice with any of these proven custom actions.
Regards,
Ross

Some good Intel Ross. I appreciate the comparison between actions.

Deano

 

[Pvt.Donut]

After looking at different actions I settled on the Arch as well. For one, I really like what Ted is doing and wanted to reward the innovation. I'm waiting for my barrel (this is a 2021 season build so no rush) but side by side with my Zermatt Origin I'd say it has a slightly stiffer bolt lift. From there it has basically no resistance back and forwards (given I don't have a barrel yet so I expect some resistance from feeding the round). I agree the disassembly is a bit much but I think the engineering Ted has into it means I shouldn't have to break this thing down in the field. If I do, it's not super tough, nothing some fixit sticks and an L wrench can't handle. Just not as quick to swap firing pins as my Origin.

 

[Steel head]

I didn't notice any major difference other than the lever action from Gen 1 to Archimedes that would make me choose One or the other.

I basically love my Nuke, that I didn't need to change.

I think I would go Arch for a long action magnum just because...

Same.

 

[HOLLYW00D]

I have a short and long Archimedes. I wouldn't trade them for any other action. When my kids are old enough, it will be MY honor to build them rifles based on this action. American Rifle Company is my gold standard. I've not fondled/shot all custom actions, nor dealt with all the manufacturers, but I'm not left wanting or curious. I am a fan of ARC.

 

[jzerfoss]

Anyone have videos of themselves running this action?

 

[Tokay444]

They may be different now, but the video on youtube you needed a t25 and an Allen wrench as a pin. A set screw on the rear of the bolt shroud, then a screw that holds everything in place that go through the bolt to the firing pin, bushing and handle.

If this has changed and made simpler like a bayonet style it might be more appealing to some. I dont plan on taking my bolts apart unless I'm in some crazy situation or sitting on my bench.

I have had a stuck brass during a local PRS match on the first stage, 3rd round of the stage. I tried using my mag to tap the handle to cam over and pull back. The damn handle snapped off. So I walked around the field all day bsing with friends. Saved some ammo.

Deano

No. It’s a washer and cap screw you can thread in by hand on cocked bolt for the Gen 1 Nucleus.

 

[Steel head]

No. It’s a washer and cap screw you can thread in by hand on cocked bolt for the Gen 1 Nucleus.

This.

 

[Tokay444]

I don’t like wimpy extractors or spring loaded plunger type ejectors, so my choices are limited.

 

[Uspsa2011]

I've owned a few actions all of which have been used almost exclusively for prs. Standard Remington 700, ruger precision rifle, bighorn tl3, gen1 nucleus, archimedes. I've been behind, but have not owned, impact, and terminus. For me, the archimedes is my favorite by way of both feel and function. It simply checks all my personal boxes. Controlled round feed, amazing extraction, a bolt throw that strikes a balance between 60 and 90 degrees, interchangable bolt heads, swappable cocking cams. Hard to go wrong with most of today's modern 700 style actions. Find one that has features you like.

 

[Kimber.204]

Anyone have videos of themselves running this action?

I took some during a practice session....I'll see if I can upload it.

 

[craigos]

i have 2 - one in 6GT in a Xylo and one a Dasher in a Manner PRS MCS. I have ran tempests, tl3s , defiance , AI and regular rems and like these a great deal. They run real fast and feel slick. my preferred action by far

 

[xdeano]

One thing that has come up in old posts is the fact that the first ones off the shelf had some issues with triggers.

I'm guessing this has been fixed? The posts were a while ago.

Deano

 

[Franko]

I owned a short action Archimedes and still have a Masuingfield (M7 version). For lack of a better term there is slightly more "wiggle" in the Archimedes when you are running it. Bolt lift is lighter on the Archimedes but I can't speak to the extraction power as I never had an issue with either. Swapping bolt heads for both of the actions isn't easy but it's not hard.

Overall, I preferred the feel of the Mausingfield; it felt more solid and smoother to me (like it was running on rails). I preferred the bolt release on the Mausingfield as well. The Mausingfield was also easier to get working with my 6mmBR (AI mags and Primal Rights mag kits) than the Archimedes.

Note: My use was at the range under good conditions. I can't speak to how they will fare when run hard under extreme conditions.

 

[HOLLYW00D]

One thing that has come up in old posts is the fact that the first ones off the shelf had some issues with triggers.

I'm guessing this has been fixed? The posts were a while ago.

Deano

Both of my serial numbers are in the teens (pre-order). They work great with BnA and TT triggers.

 

[hereinaz]

One thing that has come up in old posts is the fact that the first ones off the shelf had some issues with triggers.

I'm guessing this has been fixed? The posts were a while ago.

Deano

ARC doesn't have the typical fanbois that talk about how smooth and pretty and popular their action is. The vast majority of people who run ARC actions are extremely practical. They know that the bolt isn't "as smooth as silk" and "is sloppy" because when conditions get ugly, the ARC actions are field ready. If you fall into the "I want a robust and practical rifle action that will run in the field" then the ARC actions might be for you. If you want to fondle your action at the range, run the bolt really slow and admire how nice it feels, there are actions that will check those boxes. LOL, not a dig on other actions, just tounge in cheek. There really is very little differences in custom actions in the end. They will all do their job really well. It comes down to preference. I think that is really a significant reason why you don't hear a lot about it, besides the fact that Ted isn't a warm and fuzzy marketing type--he just designs and sells some of the most practically designed actions there are. There is no bolt fluting or anything else that he thinks is a compromise.

I think the thing with the triggers is overblown. There have been issues, but they are easily resolved. Same thing happens with other actions. Though close, Rem 700 clones are not fit or designed to run as sloppy as the factory. So, sometimes tweaking needs to happen. It is why Bighorn will set up your trigger if you send it when you buy an action. Its why a good gunsmith will always be busy.

I never had a single problem with Trigger Tech (only trigger I run) in several Nucleus and the one Archimedes I ran. I have two of my local buddies running Nucleus now, and there are zero complaints. I assembled a rifle for my buddy and he has a Timney HIT in it. I have other people I know running Nucleus and they don't have issues either.

There have been minor modifications to the bolt head and the swap of the FP spring as "fixes" by ARC. I ran my single digit Nucleus for hundred of rounds before I bothered changing anything. Never a problem. I will never sell that action, it is my hunting rifle now. I have a second Gen 1 Nuke that is my match rifle. I can't see myself ever selling that either- it is the one I traded my Archimedes for. If I could have started with Gen 2 Nukes or Archimedes, I probably would have just kept those actions. But, I started with the Gen 1 Nuke, and I really don't have a reason to change. All the improvements are nice, but I don't really care.

If you are interested, the best thing is probably to watch the classifieds and pick up a used one. If you don't like it you can sell it...

 

[BLKWLFK9]

im casually keeping an eye out for the archimedes in the PX.

 

[Kimber.204]

I had to create a Vimeo account....hopefully I uploaded everything correctly.
At the beginning of Oct I took some video of a practice session. I'll share the sitting and prone rapid fire stages. I'm practicing NRA High Power if you're not used the seeing the shooting coat/glove/sling. The Xylo chassis I'm using has a plastic riser on the bottom that I 3D printed and added an Anschutz rail for my hand stop/sling attachment point.







Enjoy,
Ross

 

[Kimber.204]

One thing that has come up in old posts is the fact that the first ones off the shelf had some issues with triggers.

I'm guessing this has been fixed? The posts were a while ago.

Deano

Before I bought my Archimedes I called and spoke the one of the folks at American Rifle Company and asked about the trigger issue. They told me that there should be no issue going forward. I bought my action new in early 2020. I'm using Tubb T7T, and I can't say enough good about it.

 

[hereinaz]

I had to create a Vimeo account....hopefully I uploaded everything correctly.
At the beginning of Oct I took some video of a practice session. I'll share the sitting and prone rapid fire stages. I'm practicing NRA High Power if you're not used the seeing the shooting coat/glove/sling. The Xylo chassis I'm using has a plastic riser on the bottom that I 3D printed and added an Anschutz rail for my hand stop/sling attachment point.







Enjoy,
Ross

Very cool.

 

[Stoweit]

I bought the Archimedes from someone on the PX brand new for$1,100.00, Had LRI spin up a cut rifle barrel, put it in the Xylo chassis. Been a shooter since day one. Love the action, seems super smooth to me.

 

[xdeano]

ARC doesn't have the typical fanbois that talk about how smooth and pretty and popular their action is. The vast majority of people who run ARC actions are extremely practical. They know that the bolt isn't "as smooth as silk" and "is sloppy" because when conditions get ugly, the ARC actions are field ready. If you fall into the "I want a robust and practical rifle action that will run in the field" then the ARC actions might be for you. If you want to fondle your action at the range, run the bolt really slow and admire how nice it feels, there are actions that will check those boxes. LOL, not a dig on other actions, just tounge in cheek. There really is very little differences in custom actions in the end. They will all do their job really well. It comes down to preference. I think that is really a significant reason why you don't hear a lot about it, besides the fact that Ted isn't a warm and fuzzy marketing type--he just designs and sells some of the most practically designed actions there are. There is no bolt fluting or anything else that he thinks is a compromise.

I think the thing with the triggers is overblown. There have been issues, but they are easily resolved. Same thing happens with other actions. Though close, Rem 700 clones are not fit or designed to run as sloppy as the factory. So, sometimes tweaking needs to happen. It is why Bighorn will set up your trigger if you send it when you buy an action. Its why a good gunsmith will always be busy.

I never had a single problem with Trigger Tech (only trigger I run) in several Nucleus and the one Archimedes I ran. I have two of my local buddies running Nucleus now, and there are zero complaints. I assembled a rifle for my buddy and he has a Timney HIT in it. I have other people I know running Nucleus and they don't have issues either.

There have been minor modifications to the bolt head and the swap of the FP spring as "fixes" by ARC. I ran my single digit Nucleus for hundred of rounds before I bothered changing anything. Never a problem. I will never sell that action, it is my hunting rifle now. I have a second Gen 1 Nuke that is my match rifle. I can't see myself ever selling that either- it is the one I traded my Archimedes for. If I could have started with Gen 2 Nukes or Archimedes, I probably would have just kept those actions. But, I started with the Gen 1 Nuke, and I really don't have a reason to change. All the improvements are nice, but I don't really care.

If you are interested, the best thing is probably to watch the classifieds and pick up a used one. If you don't like it you can sell it...

Thank you Hereinaz for taking the time to write all that out. I really appreciate it.
deano

 

[xdeano]

I had to create a Vimeo account....hopefully I uploaded everything correctly.
At the beginning of Oct I took some video of a practice session. I'll share the sitting and prone rapid fire stages. I'm practicing NRA High Power if you're not used the seeing the shooting coat/glove/sling. The Xylo chassis I'm using has a plastic riser on the bottom that I 3D printed and added an Anschutz rail for my hand stop/sling attachment point.







Enjoy,
Ross

Very Nice Ross! That looks like a smooth operating machine.

deano

 

[Steel head]

ARC doesn't have the typical fanbois that talk about how smooth and pretty and popular their action is. The vast majority of people who run ARC actions are extremely practical. They know that the bolt isn't "as smooth as silk" and "is sloppy" because when conditions get ugly, the ARC actions are field ready. If you fall into the "I want a robust and practical rifle action that will run in the field" then the ARC actions might be for you. If you want to fondle your action at the range, run the bolt really slow and admire how nice it feels, there are actions that will check those boxes. LOL, not a dig on other actions, just tounge in cheek. There really is very little differences in custom actions in the end. They will all do their job really well. It comes down to preference. I think that is really a significant reason why you don't hear a lot about it, besides the fact that Ted isn't a warm and fuzzy marketing type--he just designs and sells some of the most practically designed actions there are. There is no bolt fluting or anything else that he thinks is a compromise.

I think the thing with the triggers is overblown. There have been issues, but they are easily resolved. Same thing happens with other actions. Though close, Rem 700 clones are not fit or designed to run as sloppy as the factory. So, sometimes tweaking needs to happen. It is why Bighorn will set up your trigger if you send it when you buy an action. Its why a good gunsmith will always be busy.

I never had a single problem with Trigger Tech (only trigger I run) in several Nucleus and the one Archimedes I ran. I have two of my local buddies running Nucleus now, and there are zero complaints. I assembled a rifle for my buddy and he has a Timney HIT in it. I have other people I know running Nucleus and they don't have issues either.

There have been minor modifications to the bolt head and the swap of the FP spring as "fixes" by ARC. I ran my single digit Nucleus for hundred of rounds before I bothered changing anything. Never a problem. I will never sell that action, it is my hunting rifle now. I have a second Gen 1 Nuke that is my match rifle. I can't see myself ever selling that either- it is the one I traded my Archimedes for. If I could have started with Gen 2 Nukes or Archimedes, I probably would have just kept those actions. But, I started with the Gen 1 Nuke, and I really don't have a reason to change. All the improvements are nice, but I don't really care.

If you are interested, the best thing is probably to watch the classifieds and pick up a used one. If you don't like it you can sell it...

My feelings exactly.
Just a functional, practical and durable action.
Love my Gen 1 nuke and hope to get a long action ARC action soon.

 

[kthomas]

I'm a big ARC fan. In fact, my Mausingfield may be my absolute favorite action, and ARC rings are a thing of beauty.

However, I personally don't understand the design ethos of the Archimedes. It seems to be built around providing really strong extraction - to me it seems to be a solution looking for a problem (that doesn't really exist).

I've never tried an Archimedes, and perhaps it's the absolute tits and I would fall in love with it. I can't say I understand it, but maybe that's something that would change with some finger fucking. Either way, Ted makes awesome stuff, so it can't be bad.

 

[xdeano]

I'm a big ARC fan. In fact, my Mausingfield may be my absolute favorite action, and ARC rings are a thing of beauty.

However, I personally don't understand the design ethos of the Archimedes. It seems to be built around providing really strong extraction - to me it seems to be a solution looking for a problem (that doesn't really exist).

I've never tried an Archimedes, and perhaps it's the absolute tits and I would fall in love with it. I can't say I understand it, but maybe that's something that would change with some finger fucking. Either way, Ted makes awesome stuff, so it can't be bad.

Well, I can speak from experience that a stuck case is a real thing. It sucks. I never thought it would happen to me, but between being on the hot side, carbon ring and running suppressed, old brass things tend to compound with pressures. I've since cleaned up my issues. Will it happen again in my life time? Man I hope not, but I didn't let it ruin my day at the match. There's always something to do.

I'm a skeptic in the fact that, do I really need an action with such a feature. If it isn't a gimmick than it might be worth it.

Deano

 

[xdeano]

another question.

How are they with fine dust, gravel or even snow? Some years up here it can blow crazy and the fine dirt can get into everything. Snow is a different cat, it can melt, and freeze causing issues.

From what I understand is that the Archimedes action isn't a tight action in the fact that there is clearance. Im guessing that it should self clear for the most part.

Thanks guys
Deano

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Kinda wish I had that extra extraction power last outing. Then I wouldn't have had to take a 2x4 to my Nuke handle several times.

 

[Kimber.204]

I personally don't understand the design ethos of the Archimedes

I picked up a new Mausingfield at the beginning of 2019 and loved it. When you send the bolt forward the handle just gets sucked down - it was very smooth and fast. I liked it better than my TL3. However, for me, I thought the bolt lift on the Mausingfield was a bit too heavy. Not heavy as in I can barely open this bolt, heavy as in it messed up my natural point of aim (NPA) in rapid fire stages. When the Archimedes came out I initially ignored it due to being a 3-lug action which typically have a heavier bolt lift than a 2-lug action. But the interweb experts told me that it was a lighter bolt lift than the Mausingfield....so I sold some stuff and bought one. I ran the Archimedes for the 2020 season then I sold my Mausingfield and my Eliseo Tube gun with a Defiance action.