Rifle Scopes Are Laser Rangefinders visible to NVG?

Re: Are Laser Rangefinders visible to NVG?

Hell yes.

If you don't believe Captain Kick-Ass and me, just read the latest Bob the Nailer book...
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Re: Are Laser Rangefinders visible to NVG?

good luck using a Rangematic at night. The ones I looked through had terrible light transmission just at dusk let alone at night.
 
Re: Are Laser Rangefinders visible to NVG?

Not all, PLFR-15 I think is not visible to NV... as well I believe the Vectors aren't.

however consumer models are... and if you think you can mil at night when NV is employed, well consider most people are lucky to get it right during the day. Not to mention try turning on the reticles to see better in order to mil at night, that is visible too.

You're better off using a map or some other method.

Most engagements at night are well under 400 yards, so ranging is generally not an issue. We shoot out to 600 yards at night but it usually requires some form of assistance which is also visible to NV.
 
Re: Are Laser Rangefinders visible to NVG?

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Typically auto gated 3rd generation night vision has a steep roll-off around 940 nano-meters. Lasers have a very narrow bandwidth which they operated in unlike LEDs, and if the peak frequency is above 940 or so nano-meters it is unlikely a 3rd gen night vision device will detect it as NV does not work well in the micro-meter wave lengths. Now a thermal imaging device will see this as most "heat" in in the micro-meter wevelength region.
 
Re: Are Laser Rangefinders visible to NVG?

It will depend on the wavelength of the laser. Most commercial models are 830 to 850 nanometers, wich is pretty much in the sweet spot for the normal NVG tube.

The Vector 1500 is 850nm, as is the PLRF-10. The Vector IV and up (21, 25) are 1050nm, as is the PLRF-15. They are NOT visible to NVG's.

As Frank says, most night work, even with a NV scope is done at 200-400 yards, a basic PBZ will work just fine and no rangefinding is required beyond knowing the far end of the range.

When I work out to 600-800 using the PVS-26, I use an IR laser on the spotters rig to illuminate and ID targets anyway, so a quick ping with even a PLRF-10 not a major problem. Without IR illum, you've got a real hard time ID'ing a target, so you are pretty much forced to go active anyway. If the air is clear, it's not easy to see the beam from even slightly off axis unless it's fairly high power. If there is much particulate in the air, the beam can stand out quite clearly from 90 degrees off.

Mill relation at night, without artifical light on the target, or through a NV device, is not going to meet with much success at any distance where you actually need it to work.
 
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Re: Are Laser Rangefinders visible to NVG?

The PLRF-10 operates at 905nm and the PLRF-15 at 1550nm. Excellent point about not seeing the LRF beam off axis. The PLRF laser beams have a divergence of only a few milliradians, so it would be analogous to one riflescope looking down the boresight of another, just like Carlos Hathcock and his NVA sniper nemesis.

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