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Julian Assange Is Free!
WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange was released from a UK prison on Tuesday morning. He has spent five years in the Belmarsh Prison
www.independentsentinel.com
I wonder what accident he is about to have ?
Plea deal. Gets released so he can go to jail in the US.
Then hang himself.
Then hang himself.
Apparently he's on a plane to Australia.
This is way past due. Though I'm amazed the US let him go, given how the deep state and military industrial complex loathed him.
Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if this ends in assassination.
No doubt he will have a tragic accident, gotta give the guy credit though. He never set foot in a US prison
The reality is that while folks, including me, didn’t like what he did with WikiLeaks, he broke no American laws.
It was hard case law when the New York Times received in published the pentagon papers, and the New York Times was found to have the right to do so by the Supreme Court That publishers of materials they received are not liable nor under any constraint to keep those materials secret.
Assange did nothing wrong. The people who supplied him with leaked materials were guilty of various things.
But Assange merely acted as the publisher he did not steal anything or hire agents to steal anything. The argument the government made was that the very existence of WikiLeaks and Assange was a de facto encouragement to steal materials.
But if that were the case, the very existence of the New York Times or Washington Post would represent the same threat to security systems.
When the media that is supposed to be reporting and not a propaganda arm of a corrupt government does its job there is no need for a wiki leaks. By any other definition, a free press is supposed to be a wiki leaks. But when that system breaks down and someone comes out to fill that void, be they Project Veritas wiki leaks, or some blogger with a story to tell… they fall under the same protection as the traditional press. Guaranteed by the Bill of a rights AND confirmed by the SCOTUS before/during Watergate.
Assange’s persecution/prosecution was nothing short of government overreach. And in the big picture the stuff that he published exposed so much corruption at so many levels he should get the damn presidential medal of freedom!! For services rendered to The Republic.
Except that medal only goes to ‘60’s leftist Eco terrorists who blow up labs and end up as presidential advisors or brave Hollywood types who give millions to candidates.
And I don’t think he’ll be the target of anyone.
Unless he starts WikiLeaks back up. Which I so wish he would do. If the last 15 years have taught me anything, it’s that we need more people like Assange and project Veritas and other guerilla journalists. Because the mainstream media is just as corrupt, if not more corrupt, than the people they’re supposed to be watchdogging!
Cheers.
Sirhr
It was hard case law when the New York Times received in published the pentagon papers, and the New York Times was found to have the right to do so by the Supreme Court That publishers of materials they received are not liable nor under any constraint to keep those materials secret.
Assange did nothing wrong. The people who supplied him with leaked materials were guilty of various things.
But Assange merely acted as the publisher he did not steal anything or hire agents to steal anything. The argument the government made was that the very existence of WikiLeaks and Assange was a de facto encouragement to steal materials.
But if that were the case, the very existence of the New York Times or Washington Post would represent the same threat to security systems.
When the media that is supposed to be reporting and not a propaganda arm of a corrupt government does its job there is no need for a wiki leaks. By any other definition, a free press is supposed to be a wiki leaks. But when that system breaks down and someone comes out to fill that void, be they Project Veritas wiki leaks, or some blogger with a story to tell… they fall under the same protection as the traditional press. Guaranteed by the Bill of a rights AND confirmed by the SCOTUS before/during Watergate.
Assange’s persecution/prosecution was nothing short of government overreach. And in the big picture the stuff that he published exposed so much corruption at so many levels he should get the damn presidential medal of freedom!! For services rendered to The Republic.
Except that medal only goes to ‘60’s leftist Eco terrorists who blow up labs and end up as presidential advisors or brave Hollywood types who give millions to candidates.
And I don’t think he’ll be the target of anyone.
Unless he starts WikiLeaks back up. Which I so wish he would do. If the last 15 years have taught me anything, it’s that we need more people like Assange and project Veritas and other guerilla journalists. Because the mainstream media is just as corrupt, if not more corrupt, than the people they’re supposed to be watchdogging!
Cheers.
Sirhr
So he had to plead guilty to what should have been first ammendment protected activity. I'm sad for how weve been diminished.
And sadly...
By pleading guilty he waives his right to appeal. And what should have reinforced case law will now set a new precedent... That is not good.
Maybe "someone" will grant him a full pardon. It's owed to him after what he has endured for, what, 15 years?
Cheers,
Sirhr
Finally! Thank any God that will listen that this happened
The DOJ needs this bullshit plea deal to save face but whatever, he’s out
The DOJ needs this bullshit plea deal to save face but whatever, he’s out
He's a total fucking POS, deustchbag, and innocent of the bullshit, political charges against him. Assange was the final nail in the coffin of the death of investigative journalism. After him the MSM decided it wasn't worth reporting any truth, and went full, democrat/statist propaganda all the time.
The rape case against Assange in Sweden was also total bullshit. That was one of those, "I was begging him to fuck me, and then a couple of days later I decided he raped me." Lie down with radical, leftist bitches, get up with fleas. Although at least he actually did lie with her, unlike Trumps civil trial travesty where he'd never even met the crazy bitch.
He is definitely not one of us. I'm glad he's out, but what a horrendous injustice of loosing more than a decade of your life to the worst human beings on planet Earth.
The rape case against Assange in Sweden was also total bullshit. That was one of those, "I was begging him to fuck me, and then a couple of days later I decided he raped me." Lie down with radical, leftist bitches, get up with fleas. Although at least he actually did lie with her, unlike Trumps civil trial travesty where he'd never even met the crazy bitch.
He is definitely not one of us. I'm glad he's out, but what a horrendous injustice of loosing more than a decade of your life to the worst human beings on planet Earth.
You mean like the folks who, almost 4 years later, are still in jail on made-up Jan. 6 charges?
Hunted down in their homes? Arrested on TV? Their lives ruined? Rotting in Jails.
See @Gunfighter14e2 's comments on Justice system... He'es not wrong.
Sirhr
My thoughts exactly.
meanwhile...via "approved" media outlets...
What was crazy about all of this was not that the US was trying to lock him up forever or assassinate him (Pompeo asked his CIA for assassination plans, and Hillary Clinton once asked "can we just drone him?"), but how legacy media treated him.
If anyone should be vehemently defending Assange and asking for his release, it should be the media. A clear case of the West persecuting and jailing a journalist for doing his job. Media is supposed to hold power to account.
But they didn't. Which shows just how rotten the legacy media is. They don't hold power to account - they protect it. They act as their gatekeepers. It's almost as if our legacy media is a direct branch of the US government, a propaganda arm.
If anyone should be vehemently defending Assange and asking for his release, it should be the media. A clear case of the West persecuting and jailing a journalist for doing his job. Media is supposed to hold power to account.
But they didn't. Which shows just how rotten the legacy media is. They don't hold power to account - they protect it. They act as their gatekeepers. It's almost as if our legacy media is a direct branch of the US government, a propaganda arm.
Slight correction. What project Veritas used to do and is now being done by O'keefe media group (OMG).
Project Veritas kicked out James o'keefe and went down the crapper.
Free...
I doubt it.
If they let him live it'll be to set an example of what happens to those who tell on the Gov.
R
I doubt it.
If they let him live it'll be to set an example of what happens to those who tell on the Gov.
R
Both Snowden and Assange should not have run. They should have stood and fought even though the system is rigged. That robbed their acts of the heroism they rightly deserve. Who knows how badly it would have gone for the Deepstate if they had stood and fought. Even more treason and malfeasance could have been exposed. There is even a chance that justice would have been served (a very slim one).
I'm not saying they don't both believe. I'm just saying that like all leftists their beliefs and values don't line up. That requires lying to yourself on a fundamental level, which is why their belief system looks like insanity to people who are in their right minds.
I'm not saying they don't both believe. I'm just saying that like all leftists their beliefs and values don't line up. That requires lying to yourself on a fundamental level, which is why their belief system looks like insanity to people who are in their right minds.
I know, I was feeling somewhat charitable this morning I guess...
Is that Pence tweet from the now? What a fucking POS!
"Let go" might be a little premature at this point. There will be child porn on his computer, he will go on a shooting rampage or hang himself masturbating in the near future.
They would have both been dead years ago. They ran because they knew what would have happened if they had stayed.
If you're a glutton for punishment, there's countless media pundits and gov officials on 'X' right now decrying this decision.
A really revealing narrative is that Assange should be punished because he "hurt the US government". Think about that for a minute and let that sink in.
They think that the government does not work for you. They think that they are not accountable to you. The security and intelligence apparatus is to protect themselves, not you.
I know we all know this, but it's incredible how out in the open this is. How was this allowed to be okay? What has this country become? It's a pretty somber thing to reflect on.
(And yes, I know the answers to those questions, and I know you do too. But its sad its gotten this far.)
A really revealing narrative is that Assange should be punished because he "hurt the US government". Think about that for a minute and let that sink in.
They think that the government does not work for you. They think that they are not accountable to you. The security and intelligence apparatus is to protect themselves, not you.
I know we all know this, but it's incredible how out in the open this is. How was this allowed to be okay? What has this country become? It's a pretty somber thing to reflect on.
(And yes, I know the answers to those questions, and I know you do too. But its sad its gotten this far.)
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Couple of reasons
Assange on trial in US for free speech during election, bad optics plus who knows what would see light of day in hearings
UK looked to stop the extradition on free speech grounds in a couple of weeks time ( Coudl walk free if that happened , US lawfare department would look bad arguing that and possibly losing it)
Biden admin wanted a PR win , this costs nothing, guy pleaded guilty to being a criminal after 5 years in solitary and 7 years in the Ecuadorian embassy. One can also speculate what kind of strings are attached to Plea deal , till he gets a pardon he is not truly free.
End of the day Brandon's Lawfare department made their point we will ruin you like Assange if you leak anything we do not like , if you leak stuff we like ,we might even get you a gig as talking head on the MSM .
Folks also forget why he was labeled public enemy no.1 , officially they went after him for the Iraq tapes, but pile-on came because of the Hillary emails same media that won Pulitzers on publishing his material turned on him after Trump won. He was the primary casualty of Russia gate, and Trump was gullible enough to take Pompeo's advice,
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What is really kind of scary to me is just how brainwashed people are, in that they accept it as normal.
Honestly I'm really not sure what's happening here.
Assange got very little attention in the legacy media. Biden and his campaign aren't too concerned about what independent journalists and some online accounts think. There's been a few elections where Assange was in prison/confinement, and that never really came up. I don't think the Biden admin/campaign sees this as a needle mover on that front.
The UK extradition thing makes more sense. Perhaps they (US) knows the writing is on the wall, that Assange will be released - so do it with a plea bargain and make it seem like a "win". However he's still walking free - and when you see the venom being spat from the mouth of US legacy media pundits, gov officials, former gov officials and all sorts of neocons that dominate our public, you can see they absolutely hate this.
The really cynical side of me thinks they already drew up plans for his "accident". Assange will go back to Australia, he'll feel "suddenly suicidal" despite this big win and gain of freedom, and the US can close the last chapter on this book.
That's the worst part.
That the people don't hold their government accountable. They are completely apathetic at best in most cases, to straight up brainwashed where they think this is okay and regular government behavior that's tolerable.
Of course it took a few generations to get to this point and level of corruption, so people born into the system today don't know anything different, nor do they care to. Just a bunch of NPCs running around living their vapid lives as the level of corruption only gets worse and worse.
However at some point this level of corruption is not sustainable in a democracy. At some point, people lose all faith in the system, and a democracy can't survive that. I think we are getting to that point soon(ish). This is late stage empire shit.
I imagine there would be much more scrutiny once he was on US soil , for much of the Brandon admin he was out of sight out of mind , but every time they had hearing in regards to extradition it was front page news for couple of days again.
Seeing as how lawfare wins against Trump mostly backfired as did some against Jan 6 , i imagine some were seeing Assange in jail would not be a great look either.
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I have to admit that I was conflicted about Assange until about five or six years ago.
One the one hand, I had bought into the msm/.gov narrative that by releasing the files, Assange had put our Troops and Spooks in danger, which I didn't like one bit. As time went on and the more I thought about it, I considered all the bullshit that the msm had been pulling and how that factored in to the Assange situation. Then, there was the Pompeo Assassination plan. Then, the Brits put Assange in prison. As time went on, it was more and more apparent that what Assange had done was really the right thing to do. And, Assange was being made to pay for it, in a very, very big way.
I'm not sure that I fully embrace the idea that Assange was (or is) a hero. There could very well have been collateral damage as a result of his actions. I don't believe that I will personally ever know and I'm sure as hell not taking anything the msm says about it with any seriousness. I can't say that I think he's the villain that he was/is made out to be either.
It will be interesting to see what Assange does going forward. Maybe he'll decide that he's had enough and that he's just going to lay low. Or, he may say "fuck it" and double down. We'll see.........
Case in point; Brainwashing.
Seth Rich's parents being ambivalent about the murderer(s) being pursued. They knew (generally) who they were and what they represented. In spite of that, they forsook their Son for the Truth.
You know what, that could be true.
They already have an uphill battle on many fronts for this election, maybe they decided the last thing they needed was another one.
It would also give Trump an opportunity to galvanize voters around a specific issue that Biden would be on the losing end on, should Trump decide to take that opportunity.
Easy for you to say in the comfort of your home.
Try saying that when you are looking at the BEST case scenario is someone kills you and the most scenario likely is WAY worse...
If they hadn't run, both of them would have either been killed or be stuck in some CIA government run torture secret prison for the rest of their lives.
The CIA literally had one of their kidnap and torture team planes sitting on the runway in Europe ready to grab Snowden, they even hijacked the plane of a south american head of state trying to get him.
The CIA was trying to get Assange sent to a country where it was easy for them to go kidnap him, without too much interference from any freedom loving type.
And For what?
So a bunch of lazy "good folks" could cluck their head and say such a shame while doing absolutely nothing about it?
So another bunch of stupid jingoistic blowhards could cheer because "my military security" or some such B.S.
What have you done to get the J6 folks released? What has any of the "good folks" done to get them released?
Pretty much everybody just let them rot and went on shaking their heads about poor them.
Snowden and Assange and to some extent even the hated Manning, proved that "the good people" don't deserve heroes that will give up their lives and freedom to tell "the good people" all the evil that their own governments are doing to them and others.
When the tyranny finally comes, all the "good folks" whining about it can look back and remember they were warned and they despised the messengers that told them what was being done and what was coming.
The hard truth is the "left wing" and "communist" types are WAY more willing to do what it takes to stand up against the government than all the "good folks".
I would like to also point out that Obama suspended Habeas Corpus during his presidency - the government currently has the right to indefinitely detain you, if they so please.
The system has been heavily rigged and corrupted, and there are a lot of protections built into this system to skirt any accountability.
I’ve heard these are pretty accurate, not fluffed up or embellished for anything, but haven’t started watching yet.
Here’s some more light reading about Danny and his story
Search results for "Danny casolaro " | The Corbett Report
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