Night Vision ATPIAL LA-5 Laser - $2,500

[mjames]

ATPIAL LA-5 Laser
Slightly salty with non-OEM selector knob.
Unit is functional per photos.
$2,500 Shipped Insured
PayPal F&F or add 3% for G&S

 

[mjames]

Price Drop

 

[WhereNow&How]

Hecque. That knob looks better than what comes on them.

 

[Tritiumdials]

TNVC now carries replacement parts. It's only $13.07 for a new knob and the new owner can walk away with an LA-5 for a solid price.

 

[mjames]

Hecque. That knob looks better than what comes on them.

Indeed. The blue screws dont work with it however. Apparently new OEM knobs are attainable from TNVC. For the $20 that might cost I may swap out and re-list. That dorky knob never bothered me whilst larping...

 

[WhereNow&How]

Wonder if TNVC has any full powa replacement illuminators for the Atpial C.

 

[Hunters Mark]

Is this an LA-5B/peq?

 

[WhereNow&How]

According to the sticker in the picture with the Illuminator at 100 mW it would be a LA-5B. The LA-5C UHP (Ultra High Power) are at 200 mW and regular Peq 15 is 45 mW.

 

[WhereNow&How]

The unit looks pretty decent and $2,500 for that unit is not a bad price at all. They are good performers.

 

[Hunters Mark]

According to the sticker in the picture with the Illuminator at 100 mW it would be a LA-5B. The LA-5C UHP (Ultra High Power) are at 200 mW and regular Peq 15 is 45 mW.

Thank you for the clarification!

 

[Hunters Mark]

According to the sticker in the picture with the Illuminator at 100 mW it would be a LA-5B. The LA-5C UHP (Ultra High Power) are at 200 mW and regular Peq 15 is 45 mW.

What is the highest civilian laser power output? And what is the main difference between civilian and Military lasers asfar as how the beam looks?

 

[TheHorta]

What is the highest civilian laser power output? And what is the main difference between civilian and Military lasers asfar as how the beam looks?

Since you specified “laser”…

Kiji 3° is 150mW fixed beam. Kiji 10° is 300mW fixed beam. MAWL C1+ is 80mW (I believe) and is the gold standard in .CIV IR aiming lasers/illuminators (honestly, it is all 99.99% of .CIV users could possibly need), DBAL A4 is high power (forgot the output, too lazy to Google) but is fixed as well. Russian lasers are HP and the only readily available units to .CIV users.

.MIL lasers advertised typically have dodgey provenance (black market), although they’ve become a little easier to acquire on the gray market (not stolen, but zero warranty or after sales support to any .CIV buyers) in the last couple of years.

Black is stolen .MIL and subject to confiscation.
Gray is not stolen, often LEO sourced kit that won’t likely be confiscated but has zero MFG support. Any authorized dealers caught selling to .CIVs will be summarily stripped of said dealership. Alphabets are hypersensitive to IR light and will make life uncomfortable for manufacturers who bleed appreciable amount of “restricted” goodies into the civilian marketplace.

 

[WhereNow&How]

The FDA "policy" regulates the maximum "allowed to be sold" by manufacture's to civilians at 5 mW or less.

So basically a regular full power PEQ 15 at 45 mW has an Illuminator that is 9 times stronger than the PEQ 15 C (Civilian) Illuminator
The LA- 5B at 100 mW is 20 times stronger and the LA-5C UHP is 40 times stronger.

200 mW is the highest you will basically see on a "rifle" and is a barn burner.

Rumor has it that Horta done burned up half the trees in North Alabama playing with his. Just kidding.

Biggest difference is just in pure strength of the Illuminators being able to punch much further downrange and also punch through Photonic Barriers. The full strength versions also have higher power IR pointers but the Civilian pointer strength at 0.7 mW for a pointer is really all you need.

Its the stronger Illuminators on the full strength versions where the benefit is.

Ideally you want the 0.7 mW IR Pointer superimposed on a 45 mW or 100 mW Illuminator. You end up with a fine precise IR Point dot with good illumination of the target.

 

[Hunters Mark]

So as a civilian, is this a good buy or is it better left alone?

 

[WhereNow&How]

IMHO it is a pretty good buy assuming everything works as it should which applies to any purchase.

 

[Hunters Mark]

Since you specified “laser”…

Kiji 3° is 150mW fixed beam. Kiji 10° is 300mW fixed beam. MAWL C1+ is 80mW (I believe) and is the gold standard in .CIV IR aiming lasers/illuminators (honestly, it is all 99.99% of .CIV users could possibly need), DBAL A4 is high power (forgot the output, too lazy to Google) but is fixed as well. Russian lasers are HP and the only readily available units to .CIV users.

.MIL lasers advertised typically have dodgey provenance (black market), although they’ve become a little easier to acquire on the gray market (not stolen, but zero warranty or after sales support to any .CIV buyers) in the last couple of years.

Black is stolen .MIL and subject to confiscation.
Gray is not stolen, often LEO sourced kit that won’t likely be confiscated but has zero MFG support. Any authorized dealers caught selling to .CIVs will be summarily stripped of said dealership. Alphabets are hypersensitive to IR light and will make life uncomfortable for manufacturers who bleed appreciable amount of “restricted” goodies into the civilian marketplace.

Thanks for that explanation!

 

[Hunters Mark]

IMHO it is a pretty good buy assuming everything works as it should which applies to any purchase.

Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me!

 

[cschastain2]

Since you specified “laser”…

Kiji 3° is 150mW fixed beam. Kiji 10° is 300mW fixed beam. MAWL C1+ is 80mW (I believe) and is the gold standard in .CIV IR aiming lasers/illuminators (honestly, it is all 99.99% of .CIV users could possibly need), DBAL A4 is high power (forgot the output, too lazy to Google) but is fixed as well. Russian lasers are HP and the only readily available units to .CIV users.

.MIL lasers advertised typically have dodgey provenance (black market), although they’ve become a little easier to acquire on the gray market (not stolen, but zero warranty or after sales support to any .CIV buyers) in the last couple of years.

Black is stolen .MIL and subject to confiscation.
Gray is not stolen, often LEO sourced kit that won’t likely be confiscated but has zero MFG support. Any authorized dealers caught selling to .CIVs will be summarily stripped of said dealership. Alphabets are hypersensitive to IR light and will make life uncomfortable for manufacturers who bleed appreciable amount of “restricted” goodies into the civilian marketplace.

STEINER DBAL “A-3” (Full Pwr Models)
*Vis/IR Pointer/IR Illuminator
Green Vis Laser:
Models
*1. Green Vis: 52308 50/50/200 (Best)*
2. Green Vis: 52307 50/50/50 (Good)
3. Green Vis: 52303 5/50/50 (Okay)
Red Vis Laser:
*4. Red Vis: 52302 80/50/200 (Best)*
5. Red Vis: 52301 80/50/50. (Good)

 

[cschastain2]

Good Deal on this LA-5B…I think

 

[smcfarland]

Is this still for sale?

 

[mjames]

No. The item is no longer for sale.

 

[Varry_Lickers]

No. The item is no longer for sale.

Damn I was too late

 

[TheHorta]

Damn I was too late

Dude! I wanna sell something to you just so I can tell everyone I know Varry Lickers!

 

[WhereNow&How]

I got a cousin named Harry Lickers. You wanna sell him something.