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GunPlease recommend the basic items needed to get started with precision shooting.
This. Everyone that has asked me this lately, I told to start with a 22LR. Get a good bolt gun, a ballistic calc, and a decent scope that tracks well.Depends on what your starter budget is? What your current experience is?
If you have a small budget start with an older bolt .22 of good reputation. A Win 75T will teach anyone skills they can use with bigger calibers, longer distances.
Please recommend the basic items needed to get started with precision shooting.
For future reference, @koshkin is who you seek.A first full of money (or ammo) and ask to shoot people's guns... Sort of.
Factory - tikka tac-a1 or Ruger PR.
Cheap - Howa 1500. There's a few options with chassis or similar. Plus, aics style mags.
Basic Harris bipod will work to get you going, and a rear / uni-bag. Schmedium or pint-sized game changers work, else fortune cookie are nice if you know how to use em.
Detachable mags. I'd suggest minimum of 2, but 1 will work for club matches.
Optics.. depends on budget. As good as you can afford. If you wanna cheap out, vortex venom, or maybe the Arken ? I'll let someone else in the know answer this. @Ilya R I think ?? Paging DLO / Ilya.
Ammo. Basically it. Oh, valid dope.
For future reference, @koshkin is who you seek.
That might be the stupidest number you could have possibly said to a guy just looking to get into the sport. Did I miss something in this thread that someone even remotely asked for 30k in gear? Good way to keep people from getting into the sport. You could easily have a fantastic setup of rifle, optic and gear without reloading for under 4k and if your on a budget substantially less then that. Op make sure you take info on the hide with a major grain of salt. You surely don’t need top tier gear to have fun and learn and even top tier could be done for a 1/3 of that crazy number of 30k$25-30K is a good starting point. You could spend more or less but that's ball park to get everything setup with high quality gear and lets you focus only on your shooting and skills. This will minimize the learning curve.
Lets you build a top tier gun, matching .22 trainer, A few barrels, Glass/Kestrel/RF/Tripods/Accessories, reloading setup, components and some money in there for matches/training. Maybe an extra stock and carbon barrel so you can shoot NRL hunter vs PRS/NRL bolt guns.
That number may sound high but when you add up everything its really not too far off. Its not a cheap sport/hobby so its better to know up front before jumping in.
And if you are remotely serious about this all that basic shit will be replaced and either sit and collect dust or sold for a loss.Well last time I checked basic did not add up to 20-30k and he did ask what’s the basic items needed. I agree it wasn’t a well thought out question with much directive but still.
I can teach a 10 year old how to hit a target at 1K in about 30 minutes of instruction. They haven't learned anything other than basic trigger discipline, body positioning and sight picture.
Is that supposed to be impressive? With modern ballistics software , a bipod and a bag the only thing that matters is wind, which is no great mystery after sending a few and seeing trace/impacts. Its not the mythical thing that used to be for Fudds.
No one said you can't hit anything with 168s. Its a stupid argument to make and out of context. Do you really need to see the WEZ of a 168 vs a 140 class 6.5 bullet out to 1K to understand how much of a disadvantage one is?
What you aren't doing is showing someone a small UKD target and telling them to make a first round impact in less than 90 seconds.
But he spent less than 30K so he obviously proved your point.....LOL
You sure are an argumentative asshole. I suppose you’re taking your Bugatti to the grocery store and winning every competition that’s lucky enough to be graced with your presence.I can teach a 10 year old how to hit a target at 1K in about 30 minutes of instruction. They haven't learned anything other than basic trigger discipline, body positioning and sight picture.
Is that supposed to be impressive? With modern ballistics software , a bipod and a bag the only thing that matters is wind, which is no great mystery after sending a few and seeing trace/impacts. Its not the mythical thing that used to be for Fudds.
No one said you can't hit anything with 168s. Its a stupid argument to make and out of context. Do you really need to see the WEZ of a 168 vs a 140 class 6.5 bullet out to 1K to understand how much of a disadvantage one is?
What you aren't doing is showing someone a small UKD target and telling them to make a first round impact in less than 90 seconds.
But he spent less than 30K so he obviously proved your point.....LOL
You sound mad. Did your husband recently leave you?You sure are an argumentative asshole. I suppose you’re taking your Bugatti to the grocery store and winning every competition that’s lucky enough to be graced with your presence.
Welcome to the Hide, a month ago.
I see you’ve mastered the craft! Nothing more to do. Congratulations!
Fuckin’ prick…
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If you would take the time to read what was written perhaps you would understand it. Making assumptions about being a gear snob is hilarious.I'll take the enthusiastic learner as a friend of the sport over the thinks shooting is A gear contest snob any day
Just matching the aggression. You sound like a real know-it-all twat.You sound mad. Did your husband recently leave you?
Rifle with sights of your liking, sling, ammo, targets, ear and eye protection, a place to shoot.Please recommend the basic items needed to get started with precision shooting.
I agree that a lot of time is wasted by some people chasing shitty gear to save money. Some lack basic problem solving skills. When I started shooting long range, I pieced together a rig for under $2k. I had to problem solve a lot of shit to make it reliable. I even has a couple top ten Border Wars finishes with my shitty Savage.If you would take the time to read what was written perhaps you would understand it. Making assumptions about being a gear snob is hilarious.
Like I said, if people want to skip some of the learning curve and save some money in the long run, start with good gear. Its not a difficult concept. Good Gear also holds its value over a longer time period. Maybe if you shot more and posted here less that would be readily apparent.
No one ever said things cant be done on a budget. Companies who make shitty gear need to make money too.
If i knew what I knew today 30 years ago you think I would do the same thing over? You only get so much time on this rock, don't waste it.
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Wise ones, learn from the mistakes of others.
Please recommend the basic items needed to get started with precision shooting.
Amen to that.theres a dude at one of my clubs who shoots 22 prs with what looks like an old farmers bunny gun.... he regularly does better than a lot of the guys "with all the gear (but no idea)" bit like the old saying "beware the man with one gun, for he knows how to use it".
I'll defend your numbers to a extent. If we are talking serious PRS match shooting and If you are going all in then yes sooner or later you will be into serious cash as you suggested. The OP had asked about precision shooting I didn't see the word competition. If he did or it was implied then so be it.$25-30K is a good starting point. You could spend more or less but that's ball park to get everything setup with high quality gear and lets you focus only on your shooting and skills. This will minimize the learning curve.
Lets you build a top tier gun, matching .22 trainer, A few barrels, Glass/Kestrel/RF/Tripods/Accessories, reloading setup, components and some money in there for matches/training. Maybe an extra stock and carbon barrel so you can shoot NRL hunter vs PRS/NRL bolt guns.
That number may sound high but when you add up everything its really not too far off. Its not a cheap sport/hobby so its better to know up front before jumping in.