Building a 10.5" 5.56 LMT pistol. I'm not willing to pay $6-800 for a LMT bcg so what alternatives would y'all recommend? Toolcraft? Rubber city?
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Not necessarily. Fitment, tolerance, metal finishing, springs used in it. Are more important than so called fancy finish on the metal.Cryptic Coatings. They are just tool craft if I remember right, but it's the coating that matters.
Not necessarily. Fitment, tolerance, metal finishing, springs used in it. Are more important than so called fancy finish on the metal.
I'll take a probably built bcg thats has a good chrome lining, springco springs, thats parkerized than some fancy whiz bang coating that bcg thats not in tolerance.
I never said not to buy a toolcraft bcg or anything again then at all.Who told you Toolcraft lifetime warranty BCG's arent in tolerance???? hahah. You do know they make BCG's for lots of companies that rebrand them and for .MIL and for OEM gun companies right???
I never said not to buy a toolcraft bcg.
They also have a lot on 9130 bolts.
9130 definitely isn't milspec.
Just make sure its a 158c bolt.
I never said toolcraft was not in spec was addressing that being in spec is more important than the coating.You ignored the question and said something I never said. Nobody said you told people not to buy Toolcraft. Again, who told you Toolcraft BCG's are not properly built and not in tolerance?? Taken directly from your above post.....
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I never said toolcraft was not in spec was addressing that being in spec is more important than the coating.
based on his comment on 9130, my guess is he meant mil spec and not tolerance. Still a dumb comment imho as 9130 heat treated properly is stronger than 158c. 9130 has seen a gizzillion rounds downrange and don't think it's a problemThen in the future so you dont confuse or mislead people asking these questions, dont quote a post where someone is recommending a product and end your reply with ".....than some fancy whiz bang coating bcg thats not in tolerance."
Some of use have a LOT of experience and rounds on these BCG's and know they are 100% in tolerance and of excellent quality used by many OEM's that are considered top tier and .MIL.....
Since I'll be running mostly suppressed would a Bootleg adjustable be a good idea? If not, Toolcraft it is.
Not on the LMT barrel I was planning on using.You don’t “need” an adjustable carrier to run suppressed. Do you have an adjustable gas block?
Not necessarily. Fitment, tolerance, metal finishing, springs used in it. Are more important than so called fancy finish on the metal.
I'll take a properly built bcg thats has a good chrome lining, springco springs, thats parkerized than some fancy whiz bang coating that bcg thats not in tolerance.
Last I knew Toolcraft made those. I've got two that are indistinguishable from Toolcrafts.Don't shy away from Brownell's house brand BCG, they're decent too.
Be careful with OE supplied Toolcrafts, they are not all made to same specification. It seems Toolcrafts offers carriers that are polished (all the ones I've seen sold as Toolcrafts are like this), and ones that are not and have a much rougher as machined surface finish. I think RTB had NiB carriers available in both varieties that show the difference.Last I knew Toolcraft made those. I've got two that are indistinguishable from Toolcrafts.
They've probably use/used several sources. I recall the bolt marking fonts/styles differing between various Toolcraft BCGs, even ones that were rebranded.have we ever found out who toolcraft sources their bolts from?
you are probably rightThey've probably use/used several sources. I recall the bolt marking fonts/styles differing between various Toolcraft BCGs, even ones that were rebranded.
Also, the Azimuth enhanced (Radian, Alpha Shooting and a few others) are pretty nice, even if the enhancements are cosmetic.
Like who for instance?My go to is AO, they supply some pretty hefty brands
that description is wrong and not sure what you are looking at as AO is 100% spec, in fact, they are the ones used by Colt just to name one. AO Precision is best out thereLike who for instance?
I don't really know anything about AO, but I'm a little skeptical when a manufacturer misrepresents their products as being Mil-Spec............doesn't mean the product is not good, but it does mean that their advertising is not 100% accurate or truthful.
Here's info for one of their BCG's from Right to Bear Arms' website. Sorry, but that ain't right.
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Building a 10.5" 5.56 LMT pistol. I'm not willing to pay $6-800 for a LMT bcg so what alternatives would y'all recommend? Toolcraft? Rubber city?
RTB is wrong, not the first time they've had wrong descriptions, as I said, as AO is the supplier for Colt, has been for FN, BCM and many others. I've never seen an AO with your description, not even listed on their website or anyone else's with a quick google search. Has that changed, have they started nitriding carriers? I don't know but can't find any online and only at RTB. The fact that you never heard of them and are debating their quality speaks volume, respectfully.No, it's an AO
AO BCG
Nothing at all wrong with GOOD 9310 bolts, just that it's being touted as Mil-Spec materials & process.
I do see the one that you are referencing too.
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They very well may be - it's been a little bit since I went down that rabbit hole.Last I knew Toolcraft made those. I've got two that are indistinguishable from Toolcrafts.
I want to get one of their chrome bcgs for a nice budget buildThey very well may be - it's been a little bit since I went down that rabbit hole.
Even if they're not, I'm assuming Brownell's customer service would save the day if a person had problems with anything.
Not debating their quality, just saying what I saw reported.RTB is wrong, not the first time they've had wrong descriptions, as I said, as AO is the supplier for Colt, has been for FN, BCM and many others. I've never seen an AO with your description, not even listed on their website or anyone else's with a quick google search. Has that changed, have they started nitriding carriers? I don't know but can't find any online and only at RTB. The fact that you never heard of them and are debating their quality speaks volume, respectfully.
The list is long for them, they are the top of line not named LMT.
Toolcraft. OEM to the name brands.Building a 10.5" 5.56 LMT pistol. I'm not willing to pay $6-800 for a LMT bcg so what alternatives would y'all recommend? Toolcraft? Rubber city?
Brownell’s....mil spec and guaranteed for life.
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Are you guys sure 9310 hasn’t been determined as equivalent to Carpenter 158? If I remember right, Carpenter 158 is an exclusive brand spec where 9310 is an ASTM or other standard.