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Re: bedding DIY ?
ok thanks I'll look.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 8up</div><div class="ubbcode-body">look at this thread
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1167022
plus there are many threads here on the Hide to answer those questions you might have.
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ok thanks I'll look.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 8up</div><div class="ubbcode-body">look at this thread
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1167022
plus there are many threads here on the Hide to answer those questions you might have.
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Re: bedding DIY ?
If I use this devcon what will I Need as in tools and stuff this is the link http://www.midwayusa.com/product/647161/devcon-plastic-steel-bedding-compound-putty-1-lb I have been looking at all the topics I can find.
If I use this devcon what will I Need as in tools and stuff this is the link http://www.midwayusa.com/product/647161/devcon-plastic-steel-bedding-compound-putty-1-lb I have been looking at all the topics I can find.
Re: bedding DIY ?
If you need devcon, get it here
http://www.markingpendepot.com/devconplasticsteelputtya.aspx
they have free shipping and somewhat cheaper than others.
Only thing that you may need to bed, I'd say some tape, release agent(neutral shoe polish), q-tips, possibly clay to block off openings in receiver, wood sticks for mixing and spreading.
If you need devcon, get it here
http://www.markingpendepot.com/devconplasticsteelputtya.aspx
they have free shipping and somewhat cheaper than others.
Only thing that you may need to bed, I'd say some tape, release agent(neutral shoe polish), q-tips, possibly clay to block off openings in receiver, wood sticks for mixing and spreading.
Re: bedding DIY ?
With all the good information here, I recently bedded an old Remington 700 ADL. I used the Score High pillars and bedding compound. It went really well.
With all the good information here, I recently bedded an old Remington 700 ADL. I used the Score High pillars and bedding compound. It went really well.
Re: bedding DIY ?
Yep, just back out of here and open the sticky post at the top. Then read away and follow that. You should have great results I would think. It's intimidating the first time, or at least it was for me, but its really not that hard all in all. Good luck
Yep, just back out of here and open the sticky post at the top. Then read away and follow that. You should have great results I would think. It's intimidating the first time, or at least it was for me, but its really not that hard all in all. Good luck
Re: bedding DIY ?
Wow it $10 cheaper I might get it there thanks. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 8up</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you need devcon, get it here
http://www.markingpendepot.com/devconplasticsteelputtya.aspx
they have free shipping and somewhat cheaper than others.
Only thing that you may need to bed, I'd say some tape, release agent(neutral shoe polish), q-tips, possibly clay to block off openings in receiver, wood sticks for mixing and spreading. </div></div>
Wow it $10 cheaper I might get it there thanks. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 8up</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you need devcon, get it here
http://www.markingpendepot.com/devconplasticsteelputtya.aspx
they have free shipping and somewhat cheaper than others.
Only thing that you may need to bed, I'd say some tape, release agent(neutral shoe polish), q-tips, possibly clay to block off openings in receiver, wood sticks for mixing and spreading. </div></div>
Re: bedding DIY ?
I think it seems alot harder to do than it is am I right lol <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ShtrRdy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With all the good information here, I recently bedded an old Remington 700 ADL. I used the Score High pillars and bedding compound. It went really well. </div></div>
I think it seems alot harder to do than it is am I right lol <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ShtrRdy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With all the good information here, I recently bedded an old Remington 700 ADL. I used the Score High pillars and bedding compound. It went really well. </div></div>
Re: bedding DIY ?
ok I'll look thanks <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacticalJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, just back out of here and open the sticky post at the top. Then read away and follow that. You should have great results I would think. It's intimidating the first time, or at least it was for me, but its really not that hard all in all. Good luck </div></div>
ok I'll look thanks <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacticalJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, just back out of here and open the sticky post at the top. Then read away and follow that. You should have great results I would think. It's intimidating the first time, or at least it was for me, but its really not that hard all in all. Good luck </div></div>
Re: bedding DIY ?
I like doing my own bedding work, and it's not difficult to do a "good" job. It is VERY difficult to do a beautiful job. I'm not convinced you must have beautiful bedding work to make a rifle highly accurate, but it's of course nice to have it really sweet.
I used to think a smith charging $200-300 for the job was overpriced, but honestly, how much is 5 hours of highly skilled/experienced labor worth?
If you're just a DIY stickler (I am), don't be afraid, you'll do a totally decent job, I'm sure.
My tips:
Blue painter's masking tape
Popsicle sticks
Silly putty
Acetone
Q-tips
Wax for release
Spend a BUNCH of time "mapping out" how your action fits the stock and build dams and use tape to block off the spots you don't want the epoxy to flow.
I like doing my own bedding work, and it's not difficult to do a "good" job. It is VERY difficult to do a beautiful job. I'm not convinced you must have beautiful bedding work to make a rifle highly accurate, but it's of course nice to have it really sweet.
I used to think a smith charging $200-300 for the job was overpriced, but honestly, how much is 5 hours of highly skilled/experienced labor worth?
If you're just a DIY stickler (I am), don't be afraid, you'll do a totally decent job, I'm sure.
My tips:
Blue painter's masking tape
Popsicle sticks
Silly putty
Acetone
Q-tips
Wax for release
Spend a BUNCH of time "mapping out" how your action fits the stock and build dams and use tape to block off the spots you don't want the epoxy to flow.
Re: bedding DIY ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snipenace</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it seems alot harder to do than it is am I right lol <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ShtrRdy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With all the good information here, I recently bedded an old Remington 700 ADL. I used the Score High pillars and bedding compound. It went really well. </div></div> </div></div>
Yep. You have to pay attention to the details, but there is so much good information available that it's not impossible to do. It does take several hours worth of time doing it the first time, but it's rewarding to have done it yourself.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snipenace</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it seems alot harder to do than it is am I right lol <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ShtrRdy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With all the good information here, I recently bedded an old Remington 700 ADL. I used the Score High pillars and bedding compound. It went really well. </div></div> </div></div>
Yep. You have to pay attention to the details, but there is so much good information available that it's not impossible to do. It does take several hours worth of time doing it the first time, but it's rewarding to have done it yourself.
Re: bedding DIY ?
ok thanks that helps alot. I dont care about look just function.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like doing my own bedding work, and it's not difficult to do a "good" job. It is VERY difficult to do a beautiful job. I'm not convinced you must have beautiful bedding work to make a rifle highly accurate, but it's of course nice to have it really sweet.
I used to think a smith charging $200-300 for the job was overpriced, but honestly, how much is 5 hours of highly skilled/experienced labor worth?
If you're just a DIY stickler (I am), don't be afraid, you'll do a totally decent job, I'm sure.
My tips:
Blue painter's masking tape
Popsicle sticks
Silly putty
Acetone
Q-tips
Wax for release
Spend a BUNCH of time "mapping out" how your action fits the stock and build dams and use tape to block off the spots you don't want the epoxy to flow. </div></div>
ok thanks that helps alot. I dont care about look just function.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like doing my own bedding work, and it's not difficult to do a "good" job. It is VERY difficult to do a beautiful job. I'm not convinced you must have beautiful bedding work to make a rifle highly accurate, but it's of course nice to have it really sweet.
I used to think a smith charging $200-300 for the job was overpriced, but honestly, how much is 5 hours of highly skilled/experienced labor worth?
If you're just a DIY stickler (I am), don't be afraid, you'll do a totally decent job, I'm sure.
My tips:
Blue painter's masking tape
Popsicle sticks
Silly putty
Acetone
Q-tips
Wax for release
Spend a BUNCH of time "mapping out" how your action fits the stock and build dams and use tape to block off the spots you don't want the epoxy to flow. </div></div>
Re: bedding DIY ?
ok thanks I think I'm going to try it one day.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ShtrRdy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snipenace</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it seems alot harder to do than it is am I right lol <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ShtrRdy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With all the good information here, I recently bedded an old Remington 700 ADL. I used the Score High pillars and bedding compound. It went really well. </div></div> </div></div>
Yep. You have to pay attention to the details, but there is so much good information available that it's not impossible to do. It does take several hours worth of time doing it the first time, but it's rewarding to have done it yourself. </div></div>
ok thanks I think I'm going to try it one day.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ShtrRdy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snipenace</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it seems alot harder to do than it is am I right lol <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ShtrRdy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With all the good information here, I recently bedded an old Remington 700 ADL. I used the Score High pillars and bedding compound. It went really well. </div></div> </div></div>
Yep. You have to pay attention to the details, but there is so much good information available that it's not impossible to do. It does take several hours worth of time doing it the first time, but it's rewarding to have done it yourself. </div></div>
Re: bedding DIY ?
Most HS stocks have aluminum pillars so you don't really need to. But some questions.
Is your gun factory? Or has it had the whole treatment done to it? If its a factory gun, and you have pillars I personally would just shoot it. If you have a pinned recoil lug, aftermarket barrrel and a faced action, I am all for bedding it.
A couple thoughts.
Make sure your barrel is free floated. Many Remingtons touch even in HS stocks sometimes. That will be your biggest issue.
With pillars, I don't think you would see a bunch of improvement, and while a skim bed could help its probably not necessary, I would just shoot it.
I have a .308 sitting in a HS that is not bedded. Accuracy is about 3/4 MOA or a bit less. Its a factory barrel so I don't think its going to improve that much. I also have a 6mm x 284 tight neck sitting in a HS. It sports a Lilja Barrel, Jewell Trigger, faced Remy Action, Oversized Recoil lug etc. That one is bedded and shoots a ragged one hole group.
There is only so much you are going to get out factory barrel. Spending the time on load development would be worth the time, bedding not so much if you have pillars.
Once bedded you want everything back together solid. I spent the money on a torque wrench a long time ago and everything is 65lbs per inch.
Basically once you go down the rabbit hole there is LOTS of other things that start to happen.
Most HS stocks have aluminum pillars so you don't really need to. But some questions.
Is your gun factory? Or has it had the whole treatment done to it? If its a factory gun, and you have pillars I personally would just shoot it. If you have a pinned recoil lug, aftermarket barrrel and a faced action, I am all for bedding it.
A couple thoughts.
Make sure your barrel is free floated. Many Remingtons touch even in HS stocks sometimes. That will be your biggest issue.
With pillars, I don't think you would see a bunch of improvement, and while a skim bed could help its probably not necessary, I would just shoot it.
I have a .308 sitting in a HS that is not bedded. Accuracy is about 3/4 MOA or a bit less. Its a factory barrel so I don't think its going to improve that much. I also have a 6mm x 284 tight neck sitting in a HS. It sports a Lilja Barrel, Jewell Trigger, faced Remy Action, Oversized Recoil lug etc. That one is bedded and shoots a ragged one hole group.
There is only so much you are going to get out factory barrel. Spending the time on load development would be worth the time, bedding not so much if you have pillars.
Once bedded you want everything back together solid. I spent the money on a torque wrench a long time ago and everything is 65lbs per inch.
Basically once you go down the rabbit hole there is LOTS of other things that start to happen.
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It is a factory gun. The main reason I was going to do this is to practice for the mcmillan I am going to get at some point. And the way it is now it shoots alittle under 1/2 moa at 100. I have not done any load developement I do have a 762 sd silencer and a timney trigger. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sierrabravo45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most HS stocks have aluminum pillars so you don't really need to. But some questions.
Is your gun factory? Or has it had the whole treatment done to it? If its a factory gun, and you have pillars I personally would just shoot it. If you have a pinned recoil lug, aftermarket barrrel and a faced action, I am all for bedding it.
A couple thoughts.
Make sure your barrel is free floated. Many Remingtons touch even in HS stocks sometimes. That will be your biggest issue.
With pillars, I don't think you would see a bunch of improvement, and while a skim bed could help its probably not necessary, I would just shoot it.
I have a .308 sitting in a HS that is not bedded. Accuracy is about 3/4 MOA or a bit less. Its a factory barrel so I don't think its going to improve that much. I also have a 6mm x 284 tight neck sitting in a HS. It sports a Lilja Barrel, Jewell Trigger, faced Remy Action, Oversized Recoil lug etc. That one is bedded and shoots a ragged one hole group.
There is only so much you are going to get out factory barrel. Spending the time on load development would be worth the time, bedding not so much if you have pillars.
Once bedded you want everything back together solid. I spent the money on a torque wrench a long time ago and everything is 65lbs per inch.
Basically once you go down the rabbit hole there is LOTS of other things that start to happen. </div></div>
It is a factory gun. The main reason I was going to do this is to practice for the mcmillan I am going to get at some point. And the way it is now it shoots alittle under 1/2 moa at 100. I have not done any load developement I do have a 762 sd silencer and a timney trigger. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sierrabravo45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most HS stocks have aluminum pillars so you don't really need to. But some questions.
Is your gun factory? Or has it had the whole treatment done to it? If its a factory gun, and you have pillars I personally would just shoot it. If you have a pinned recoil lug, aftermarket barrrel and a faced action, I am all for bedding it.
A couple thoughts.
Make sure your barrel is free floated. Many Remingtons touch even in HS stocks sometimes. That will be your biggest issue.
With pillars, I don't think you would see a bunch of improvement, and while a skim bed could help its probably not necessary, I would just shoot it.
I have a .308 sitting in a HS that is not bedded. Accuracy is about 3/4 MOA or a bit less. Its a factory barrel so I don't think its going to improve that much. I also have a 6mm x 284 tight neck sitting in a HS. It sports a Lilja Barrel, Jewell Trigger, faced Remy Action, Oversized Recoil lug etc. That one is bedded and shoots a ragged one hole group.
There is only so much you are going to get out factory barrel. Spending the time on load development would be worth the time, bedding not so much if you have pillars.
Once bedded you want everything back together solid. I spent the money on a torque wrench a long time ago and everything is 65lbs per inch.
Basically once you go down the rabbit hole there is LOTS of other things that start to happen. </div></div>
Re: bedding DIY ?
Devcon has a five year shelf life. Each container has a use by date on the label. I just bedded an action last week. I was very concerned as to the outcome because I have never done it before. Loads of great info here and studying the action fit to the stock helped me know where to remove stock material and dam so that Devcon stays where you want it. I used Play-do and pure carnuba wax as my release agent. All went well, and there is a dramatic difference in accuracy in my case. Take your time and you should do fine.
Devcon has a five year shelf life. Each container has a use by date on the label. I just bedded an action last week. I was very concerned as to the outcome because I have never done it before. Loads of great info here and studying the action fit to the stock helped me know where to remove stock material and dam so that Devcon stays where you want it. I used Play-do and pure carnuba wax as my release agent. All went well, and there is a dramatic difference in accuracy in my case. Take your time and you should do fine.
Re: bedding DIY ?
ok thanks Im going to look at mine and see what I need to do. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dead bird</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Devcon has a five year shelf life. Each container has a use by date on the label. I just bedded an action last week. I was very concerned as to the outcome because I have never done it before. Loads of great info here and studying the action fit to the stock helped me know where to remove stock material and dam so that Devcon stays where you want it. I used Play-do and pure carnuba wax as my release agent. All went well, and there is a dramatic difference in accuracy in my case. Take your time and you should do fine. </div></div>
ok thanks Im going to look at mine and see what I need to do. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dead bird</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Devcon has a five year shelf life. Each container has a use by date on the label. I just bedded an action last week. I was very concerned as to the outcome because I have never done it before. Loads of great info here and studying the action fit to the stock helped me know where to remove stock material and dam so that Devcon stays where you want it. I used Play-do and pure carnuba wax as my release agent. All went well, and there is a dramatic difference in accuracy in my case. Take your time and you should do fine. </div></div>
Re: bedding DIY ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 8up</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you need devcon, get it here
http://www.markingpendepot.com/devconplasticsteelputtya.aspx
they have free shipping and somewhat cheaper than others.
Only thing that you may need to bed, I'd say some tape, release agent(neutral shoe polish), q-tips, possibly clay to block off openings in receiver, wood sticks for mixing and spreading. </div></div>
+1.... No shipping.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 8up</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you need devcon, get it here
http://www.markingpendepot.com/devconplasticsteelputtya.aspx
they have free shipping and somewhat cheaper than others.
Only thing that you may need to bed, I'd say some tape, release agent(neutral shoe polish), q-tips, possibly clay to block off openings in receiver, wood sticks for mixing and spreading. </div></div>
+1.... No shipping.
