Well in my quest in obtaining the perfect load for this round I have fallen quite short. I have done multiple test using lapua brass, br2 primers, and varget with good velocitys with a average sd of around 15, but pretty bad groups. I've tried using reloader 15 with even better results as far as velocity but worse accuracy and sd. Next up on my list is xbr 8208 which so far is giving me an ad of around 4 and decent groups, but a velocity of around 2500. Anyone have experience using xbr with 185 bullets? If so how far are you pushing them?